Re: F41 Change Proposal: Anaconda as native Wayland application (System Wide)

2024-06-07 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Jun 7, 2024 at 8:32 AM Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Fri, 2024-06-07 at 13:19 +0200, mkol...@redhat.com wrote: > > > > > > Does RDP support this kind of "reverse connection" mode that VNC has? > > >

Re: F41 Change Proposal: Anaconda as native Wayland application (System Wide)

2024-06-04 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 8:23 AM Jiri Konecny wrote: > > > > On 03. 06. 24 21:57, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > >> Aoife Moloney writes: > >> === VNC switch to RDP for remote GUI installations === > > I'm curious how my usual install workflow will be affected by this > > change. I use the

Re: rpm-4.20 and __debug_install_post

2024-06-04 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 4:24 AM Sandro Mani wrote: > > > On 04.06.24 10:12, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 04, 2024 at 08:40:15AM +0200, Sandro Mani wrote: > >> Hi > >> > >> In rpm 4.20 as currently available in rawhide, defining > >> __debug_install_post > >> seems to have no effect.

Re: F41 Change Proposal: Anaconda as native Wayland application (System Wide)

2024-06-04 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 4:34 AM Hans de Goede wrote: > > Hi Ian, > > On 6/4/24 5:39 AM, Ian Laurie via devel wrote: > > On 6/1/24 1:04 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > >> On Fri, 2024-05-31 at 13:36 +0200, Jiri Konecny wrote: > >>> To my knowledge it shouldn't be. Fedora Workstation is already running

Re: updates for "Change: Replace Redis with Valkey"

2024-06-03 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 5:34 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 03, 2024 at 04:09:51AM -0500, Jonathan Wright wrote: > > I think it is time to get this discussed (and hopefully approved) in the > > meeting. Valkey is the clear leader in my opinion, seems to be gaining the > >

Re: [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : ELN SIG

2024-06-03 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 2:56 AM Tomáš Popela wrote: > > Hi Stephen > > On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 7:15 PM Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> >> * AGREED: All packages currently included in ELN Extras will have >> an EPEL 10 branch created for them (@sgallagh:fedora.im, 16:28:51) > > > Please exclude

[EPEL-devel] Re: Contact to Oracle Linux EPEL repo maintainer

2024-05-31 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 9:31 AM Troy Dawson wrote: > > On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 2:48 AM Peter Soppe wrote: >> >> Hello EPEL Team, >> >> I am trying to find out how to contact the maintainer of the Oracle Linux >> EPEL repository. >> The only website I found about EPEL and Contact is >>

Re: 41 Change Proposal: Make Tuned the Default Power Profile Management Daemon (System-Wide)

2024-05-31 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 7:20 AM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > Just a note. Users of DEs other than KDE and GNOME can use the Tuned > Switcher app. > > Available both in the main Fedora repository and as a Flatpak: > > - sudo dnf install tuned-switcher > - flatpak install

Re: Adding additional flag in cmake-rpm-macros to disallow the use of the FetchContent module

2024-05-26 Thread Neal Gompa
On Sun, May 26, 2024 at 8:47 PM Kan-Ru Chen wrote: > > On Mon, May 27, 2024, at 9:22 AM, Byoungchan Lee via devel wrote: > > In well-maintained Fedora packages, the use of the FetchContent module > > is generally discouraged because dependencies are already available in > > the Fedora

Re: Fedora Workstation 40 aarch64 download -- How to run Live CD installer?

2024-05-21 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, May 21, 2024 at 8:11 PM Samuel Sieb wrote: > > On 5/21/24 5:08 PM, Brian Masney wrote: > > I want to put Fedora 40 on my Lenovo Thinkpad x13s laptop, which is an > > aarch64-based laptop with a Qualcomm SoC. I downloaded the Fedora raw > > image from [1], and I can boot from USB using the

Re: GRUB2 rebase (from 2.06 to 2.12) landing soon on rawhide

2024-05-21 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, May 21, 2024 at 12:58 PM Leo Sandoval wrote: > > Hi team, > > We (the Red Hat bootloader team) are completing the work of > rebasing/reviewing/testing current rawhide patches, from GRUB2 2.06 to 2.12, > so at > some point in the near future these would land finally into rawhide. Once

Re: rich deps result in packages being uninstalled from buildroot

2024-05-16 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 3:10 AM Fabio Valentini wrote: > > On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 9:25 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I've been trying to get 'add-determinism' deployed in buildroots. This > > has been unsuccessful because of the following issue. > > > > The

Re: Upgrading Xwayland to version 24.1.0 in Fedora 40

2024-05-15 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 8:31 AM Olivier Fourdan wrote: > > Hi all, > > Today was released Xwayland 24.1.0, a new stable branch of Xwayland. > > That version brings quite a few improvements, among which is support for > explicit GPU synchronization. > > This is required to enable explicit GPU

Re: SPDX Statistics - Hulk edition

2024-05-13 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 3:28 PM Richard Fontana wrote: > > On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 11:44 AM Fabio Valentini wrote: > > > > On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 11:29 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > > > > On 10. 05. 24 10:55, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > > > Hot news: > > > > > > > > SPDX v3 has been

Re: GIMP 3.0 in F41?

2024-05-12 Thread Neal Gompa
On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 5:09 PM Sérgio Basto wrote: > > On Sun, 2024-05-12 at 17:00 -0600, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 4:59 PM Sérgio Basto > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/gimp3 &g

Re: GIMP 3.0 in F41?

2024-05-12 Thread Neal Gompa
On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 4:59 PM Sérgio Basto wrote: > > > > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/gimp3 > What the heck? This should have been gimp2 for the old version, not gimp3 for the new version... -- 真実はいつも一つ!/ Always, there's only one truth! --

Re: Mass Package Change: Turn deprecated %patchN syntax into %patch -PN

2024-05-06 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, May 6, 2024 at 8:17 AM Leon Fauster via devel wrote: > > Am 06.05.24 um 13:56 schrieb Florian Festi: > > Hi everyone, > > > > RPM has deprecated the %patchN syntax in favor of %patch -PN where N is > > the patch number for a year now. See the RPM documentation for more > > information

Re: LLVM Packaging Ideas for Fedora 41

2024-04-27 Thread Neal Gompa
On Sat, Apr 27, 2024 at 5:59 AM Tom Stellard wrote: > > On 4/27/24 05:57, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 27, 2024 at 5:53 AM Tom Stellard wrote: > >> > >> On 4/26/24 21:58, Neal Gompa wrote: > >>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 9:35 PM Tom Stellard wrote:

Re: LLVM Packaging Ideas for Fedora 41

2024-04-27 Thread Neal Gompa
On Sat, Apr 27, 2024 at 5:53 AM Tom Stellard wrote: > > On 4/26/24 21:58, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 9:35 PM Tom Stellard wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> After each Fedora release we do a retrospective with the LLVM package

Re: LLVM Packaging Ideas for Fedora 41

2024-04-26 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 9:35 PM Tom Stellard wrote: > > Hi, > > After each Fedora release we do a retrospective with the LLVM package > maintainers > and talk about how we can improve the LLVM packages[1] in Fedora. We've come > up > with some ideas for Fedora 41 that we'd like to share to

Re: F41 Change Proposal: Fedora Miracle Spin (self-contained)

2024-04-25 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 5:31 AM Peter Robinson wrote: > > On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 at 12:32, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > > On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 10:49 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > > wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 10:33:51PM -0500, Neal Gompa w

Re: F41 Change Proposal: Fedora Miracle Spin (self-contained)

2024-04-25 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 10:49 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 10:33:51PM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 3:26 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > > wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 04:57:40PM +010

Re: F41 Change Proposal: Fedora Miracle Spin (self-contained)

2024-04-24 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 3:26 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 04:57:40PM +0100, Aoife Moloney wrote: > > Wiki - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/FedoraMiracle > > > {{package|miracle-wm}} is available in Fedora Linux 40, so it can be > > installed on top of

Re: Fedora 40 Elections are now open!

2024-04-24 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 11:31 AM Aoife Moloney wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I hope you all are enjoying Fedora 40, and this release also marks the > start of a new election cycle[1]. As of now, the nomination period for > positions on Fedora Council, Fedora Mindshare, FESCo and EPEL Steering >

Re: Fedora RISC-V port needs to put shared objects into /usr/lib64/lp64d

2024-04-24 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 8:35 AM Andrea Bolognani wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 07:43:08AM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 7:16 AM Florian Weimer wrote: > > > > Wouldn't changing -mabi effectively make the result a new Fedora > > > >

Re: Fedora RISC-V port needs to put shared objects into /usr/lib64/lp64d

2024-04-24 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 7:16 AM Florian Weimer wrote: > > * Andrea Bolognani: > > > Wouldn't changing -mabi effectively make the result a new Fedora > > architecture? IIUC, binaries built with -mabi=lp64d wouldn't be able > > to load libraries built with -mabi=lp64dv and vice versa. > > > > If

Re: Fedora RISC-V port needs to put shared objects into /usr/lib64/lp64d

2024-04-19 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 8:23 AM Florian Weimer wrote: > > There are multiple PRs and patches floating around that make RISC-V use > the /usr/lib64 directory, like other 64-bit ports. However, RISC-V > recommends to use /usr/lib64/lp64d for the Fedora ABI variant, and > various upstream projects

Re: Picking up protobuf

2024-04-18 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 3:06 PM Michel Lind wrote: > > Hi Major, > > On 4/18/24 13:25, Major Hayden wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 17, 2024, at 21:51, Michel Lind wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> > >> protobuf was recently orphaned without any announcement to this list. > >> > >> I've picked it up since et

Re: F41 Change Proposal: Replace Redis with Valkey (system-wide)

2024-04-17 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 10:43 PM Nathan Scott wrote: > > Hi Neal, > > On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 12:29 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > > [...] > > retaining Redis will just hurt us in the long term. > > Noone is saying we should retain Redis. I'm advocating for a

Re: F41 Change Proposal: Replace Redis with Valkey (system-wide)

2024-04-17 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 9:52 PM Nathan Scott wrote: > > Hi all, > > On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 2:38 AM Maxwell G wrote: > > > > Thank you for submitting this! > > +1 > > > > == Owner == > > > * Name: [[User:jonathanspw|Jonathan Wright]] > > > * Email: jonat...@almalinux.org > > > > It would be nice

Re: F41 Change Proposal - Reproducible Package Builds (System-Wide)

2024-04-17 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 5:30 AM Fabio Valentini wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 17, 2024, 08:45 Tim Landscheidt wrote: >> >> Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: >> >> > […] >> >> >> - use dynamic buildrequires to detect what plugins are needed >> >> > My problem is that the binary is linked to the

Re: clang: error: unsupported argument 'gnu2' to option '-mtls-dialect=' for target 'x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu'

2024-04-15 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 4:56 AM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > > Anyone got any idea about this build failure? > > https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=116395331 > > [+] All set and ready to build. > clang: warning: -Wl,-z,relro: 'linker' input unused >

Re: F41 Change Proposal - Reproducible Package Builds (System-Wide)

2024-04-13 Thread Neal Gompa
On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 3:59 AM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 12, 2024 at 10:41:43PM +0100, Aoife Moloney wrote: > > [https://github.com/keszybz/add-determinism add-determinism] is a Rust > > program which, as its name suggests, adds determinism to files that > > are given as input by

Re: F41 Change Proposal - Python Built with gcc -03 (self-contained)

2024-04-12 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Apr 12, 2024 at 4:54 PM Aoife Moloney wrote: > > Wiki - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Python_built_with_gcc_O3 > Discussion.fpo - > https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f41-change-proposal-python-built-with-gcc-03-self-contained/112743 > > > This is a proposed Change for Fedora

Re: network service removed in Fedora 40 without a Change proposal(?)

2024-04-12 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Apr 12, 2024 at 4:41 PM Adam Williamson wrote: > > Michel Lind just prompted me to notice that the 'network' service > appears to have been removed from initscripts in Fedora 40+. This > change seems to have landed in February without any fanfare - >

Re: Handling --enable-experimental-jit in Python 3.13

2024-04-10 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 2:23 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > Hello Pythonistas, > > Python 3.13 has an experimental JIT compiler: > > https://docs.python.org/dev/whatsnew/3.13.html#experimental-jit-compiler > > Enabling it is a configure (hence build-time) option. > > How do we handle this in Fedora?

Re: convert everything to rpmautospec?

2024-04-09 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 12:56 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 09, 2024 at 09:41:01AM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > > > Dne 08. 04. 24 v 10:43 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek napsal(a): > > > And we already have a significant fraction of packages using rpmautospec, > > > > > >

Re: convert everything to rpmautospec?

2024-04-08 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Apr 8, 2024 at 5:22 PM Leon Fauster via devel wrote: > > Am 08.04.24 um 22:22 schrieb Michel Lind: > > On Mon, Apr 08, 2024 at 08:47:20PM +0200, Leon Fauster via devel wrote: > >> Am 08.04.24 um 20:12 schrieb Michel Lind: > >>> (this might require coordination with RH's Leapp

Re: convert everything to rpmautospec?

2024-04-08 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Apr 8, 2024 at 7:11 AM Petr Pisar wrote: > > V Mon, Apr 08, 2024 at 10:49:42AM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > napsal(a): > > On Mon, Apr 08, 2024 at 12:28:34PM +0200, Petr Pisar wrote: > > > - It breaks upgrade path in downstream distributions (e.g. fixes in RHEL > > > minor > > >

Re: "fedpkg local" builds fail for rust packages

2024-04-08 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Apr 8, 2024 at 6:17 AM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 05, 2024 at 03:33:35PM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 5, 2024 at 9:51 AM Michael J Gruber > > wrote: > > > > > > So you're saying that those packages are in the repos for everyone but > > > not meant to be

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-04-08 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Apr 8, 2024 at 5:37 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 08, 2024 at 12:03:19AM +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > I wrote: > > > On Sun, Apr 7 2024 at 13:52:26 +00:00:00, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > > > wrote: > > >> Hmm, why? Oh, rpm uses cmake, and cmake has

Re: convert everything to rpmautospec?

2024-04-07 Thread Neal Gompa
On Sun, Apr 7, 2024 at 11:16 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > I'm revisting the topic of rpmautospec because I was doing some work > on various packages, and it's annoying that some packages are using > rpmautospec and others are not. > > All my packages have been

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Fedora Plasma Workstation (System-Wide)

2024-04-05 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Apr 5, 2024 at 3:03 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 04, 2024 at 04:26:52PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Thu, 2024-04-04 at 18:35 -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 4, 2024 at 6:17 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > > >

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Fedora Plasma Workstation (System-Wide)

2024-04-04 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Apr 4, 2024 at 6:17 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 03, 2024 at 11:21:36AM -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > So here are three brainstorming proposals: > > > > (a) Fedora KDE Plasma Desktop becomes a Fedora edition. We'd need to be > > careful about how we do it. I

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Fedora Plasma Workstation (System-Wide)

2024-04-04 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Apr 4, 2024 at 4:38 AM Vít Ondruch wrote: > > > Dne 04. 04. 24 v 0:44 Kevin Kofler via devel napsal(a): > > Leon Fauster via devel wrote: > >> I already had RHL installed on a Sun IPX with Gnome, so I'm biased. > > Interesting that you were not put off by the changes that have happened to

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Fedora Plasma Workstation (System-Wide)

2024-04-03 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 12:22 PM Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > > > On Tue, Apr 2 2024 at 06:18:31 PM -07:00:00, Adam Williamson > wrote: > > I mean, we really don't need to speculate about this much. We did an > > entire overhaul of the project - Fedora.next - which was explicitly > > based around

Re: Self Introduction: Matthew Kosarek

2024-04-02 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 3:44 PM Matthew Kosarek via devel wrote: > > Hello all, > > My name is Matthew (Matt) Kosarek and I am a developer on the Mir team at > Canonical. I am currently developing a tiling window manager based on Mir > called miracle-wm (https://github.com/mattkae/miracle-wm).

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-04-02 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 4:59 AM Florian Weimer wrote: > > * Richard W. M. Jones: > > > I'm not pretending these will solve everything, but they should make > > attacks a little harder in future. > > > > > > (1) We should routinely delete autoconf-generated cruft from upstream > > projects and

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-04-01 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 12:22 PM Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Mon, 2024-04-01 at 10:56 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 07:54:08PM +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > > Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > Maybe this needs to go on the growing pile of reasons

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-04-01 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 7:38 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 11:20:17PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Sun, 2024-03-31 at 22:13 -0700, Carlos Rodriguez-Fernandez wrote: > > > Adam, > > > > > > Is there a way already to achieve test isolation during the rpm

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-03-31 Thread Neal Gompa
On Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 7:36 AM Arthur Bols wrote: > > On 31/03/2024 13:03, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > This 2FA nonsense needs to stop! GitHub has enforced compulsory 2FA for > contributors for a while, starting with "important" projects, then getting > stricter and stricter. It has done

Re: xz backdoor

2024-03-31 Thread Neal Gompa
On Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 6:50 AM Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > Branched enables updates-testing... so if you installed f40 anytime, you > > will have it enabled and if you then applied updates it would be in them > > Yet another thing I always said was a bad idea, and

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-03-30 Thread Neal Gompa
On Sat, Mar 30, 2024 at 12:10 PM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 30, 2024 at 02:44:32PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 30, 2024 at 08:23:48AM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > On Sat, Mar 30, 2024 at 8:07 AM Kevin Kofler v

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-03-30 Thread Neal Gompa
On Sat, Mar 30, 2024 at 11:36 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 30, 2024 at 10:02:42AM -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 30 2024 at 02:55:21 PM +00:00:00, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > > wrote: > > > CMake for many years fought against pkgconf and pushed people

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-03-30 Thread Neal Gompa
On Sat, Mar 30, 2024 at 11:47 AM Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > Dne 30. 03. 24 v 1:25 odp. Chris Adams napsal(a): > > Using a signed tarball is ideally better than a git tag (it's an extra > level of author attestation). > > In this case signed tarball would not help at all. And git-tag would prevent

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-03-30 Thread Neal Gompa
On Sat, Mar 30, 2024 at 8:53 AM Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > Neal Gompa wrote: > > This is not helpful in the slightest and the tone is not appreciated at > > all. > > Well, I have been arguing against this exception (exempting prebuilt > autotools output) from t

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-03-30 Thread Neal Gompa
On Sat, Mar 30, 2024 at 8:07 AM Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > Dominique Martinet wrote: > > I'm not 100% sure about the theory, but it looks like `autoreconf -fi` > > looks at the 'serial' in the first line of the script. > > The one bundled in the xz sources was marked very high: > > #

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-03-30 Thread Neal Gompa
On Sat, Mar 30, 2024 at 7:54 AM Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > (1) We should routinely delete autoconf-generated cruft from upstream > > projects and regenerate it in %prep. It is easier to study the real > > source rather than dig through the convoluted,

Re: xz backdoor

2024-03-29 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Mar 29, 2024 at 2:08 PM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > > On Fri, Mar 29, 2024 at 07:00:37PM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > Hi, > > > > wow: https://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2024/ > > > > I think at this point we clearly cannot trust xz upstream anymore and should > >

Re: Feedback wanted: Kvantum 1.1.0 spec changes

2024-03-28 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 10:33 AM Arthur Bols wrote: > > On 28/03/2024 12:22, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 6:11 AM Arthur Bols wrote: > > This seems reasonable to me. Do we have any packaged themes that need > > to be adjusted alongside it? > Thanks for

Re: Feedback wanted: Kvantum 1.1.0 spec changes

2024-03-28 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 6:11 AM Arthur Bols wrote: > > Hi all, > > Kvantum 1.1.0 has been released and changed the default compilation to > Qt6. Due to this change, I would like to change the packaging such that > the base package is Qt6 and a subpackage provides the Qt5 plugin. This > causes

Re: on dnf autoremove aggressive behaviour

2024-03-27 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 11:00 AM Germano Massullo wrote: > > I recently updated to F40 KDE, but Jami software [1] bundled Qt6 RPM > package messed up with system Qt6 (see later fix at [2]), so I had to run: > # dnf autoremove > # dnf reinstall $(rpm -qa) > > I have noticed an aggressive packaging

Re: F41 Change Proposal: Change Compose Settings (system-wide)

2024-03-25 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 4:40 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 07:29:09PM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > Daniel Alley wrote: > > > One more point: createrepo_c uses zstd compression level 10, but the range > > > goes all the way up to level 22. I would

Re: Redis will no longer be OSS... now what?

2024-03-21 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 2:24 PM Scott Williams wrote: > > > If we have some clue that a v7 merge/release > > is on the very near horizon for KeyDB > > This doesn't look promising for v7 in time for Fedora 40 or shortly after, > unfortunately: https://github.com/Snapchat/KeyDB/issues/420 > >

Re: F41 Change Proposal: Change Compose Settings (system-wide)

2024-03-21 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 8:20 AM Stephen Smoogen wrote: > > > > On Wed, 20 Mar 2024 at 22:01, Kevin Kofler via devel > wrote: >> >> Aoife Moloney wrote: >> > The zstd compression type was chosen to match createrepo_c settings. >> > As an alternative, we might want to choose xz, >> >> Since xz

Re: Redis will no longer be OSS... now what?

2024-03-20 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 8:13 PM Aaron Rainbolt wrote: > > On 3/20/24 17:19, Neal Gompa wrote: > > Hey everyone, > > It looks like Redis, Inc. has announced that future versions of Redis > are no longer OSS and will be dual-licensed SSPL and RSAL[1]. Absent a > for

Re: Redis will no longer be OSS... now what?

2024-03-20 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 6:26 PM Jonathan Wright via devel wrote: > > We can potentially look to https://github.com/Snapchat/KeyDB which I've been > loosely working on packaging anyway. > I'll want to test this for Pagure at least, since we're going to have to switch our recommendations around

Redis will no longer be OSS... now what?

2024-03-20 Thread Neal Gompa
Hey everyone, It looks like Redis, Inc. has announced that future versions of Redis are no longer OSS and will be dual-licensed SSPL and RSAL[1]. Absent a fork of Redis coming up, we will likely need to remove Redis from Fedora. All I can say is... :( [1]:

Re: F41 Change Proposal: Disable openSSL Engine Support (system-wide)

2024-03-20 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 11:24 AM Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 03:27:34PM +0100, Petr Pisar wrote: > > V Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 02:05:52PM +, Daniel P. Berrangé napsal(a): > > > Consider you've built your own app on Fedora 39 that uses these > > > symbols, and now

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 40 Candidate Beta-1.9 Available Now!

2024-03-20 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 8:45 AM Dan Horák wrote: > > On Tue, 19 Mar 2024 12:41:48 + (UTC) > rawh...@fedoraproject.org wrote: > > > According to [the schedule][1], Fedora 40 Candidate Beta-1.9 is now > > available for testing. Please help us complete all the validation > > testing! For more

Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-03-19 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 6:49 AM Jonathan Wakely wrote: > > On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 at 14:55, Kevin Kofler via devel > wrote: > > > > I have just found another essential feature that is missing in Plasma > > Wayland: > > The big one for me is that Synergy and similar tools barrier and > input-leap

Re: Guiding co-dependent RPM packages to swap nicely

2024-03-08 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Mar 8, 2024 at 5:51 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > On 08. 03. 24 11:43, Florian Weimer wrote: > > * Miro Hrončok: > > > >> On my system, I have postgresql16 and postgresql16-plugin installed > >> and I want to "upgrade" to postgresql20*. > >> > >> Using my distribution package manager, I

Re: remnants of modularity in mock configs

2024-02-27 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 9:52 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > Hi, > > I was looking into mock configs, and mock-core-configs-40.1-1.fc39 still lists > for rawhide buildroots, repositories called rawhide-modular, > rawhide-modular-debuginfo, rawhide-modular-source, with enabled=0. > >

Re: package reviews for Pandoc and CVE-2023-35936

2024-02-26 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 8:22 AM Jens-Ulrik Petersen wrote: > > Another day, another needed package (this would also be part of the postponed > Stackage LTS 22 change): > I forgot that pandoc > 3.1.3 had moved to the new crypton stack that replaces > cryptonite: > > crypton:

Re: pygobject3 orphaned?

2024-02-25 Thread Neal Gompa
On Sun, Feb 25, 2024 at 9:46 AM Arthur Bols wrote: > > Hi, > > pygobject3 was orphaned yesterday for lack of time, but it seems it > wasn't announced on the devel list. Is this intended and are the other > admins not interested in maintaining the package? > > Please let me know if that is the

Re: koji news and 1.34.0 upgrade

2024-02-24 Thread Neal Gompa
On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 12:59 PM Otto Liljalaakso wrote: > > Kevin Fenzi kirjoitti 22.2.2024 klo 1.43: > > Greetings. After the outage that just completed, koji has been upgraded > > to 1.34.0 plus a few patches from upstream. Some highlights: > > > > * A patch has been added allowing us to set

Re: F40 Change Proposal: F40 Change Proposal: Unify /usr/bin and /usr/sbin (System-Wide)

2024-02-23 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 8:04 AM Sérgio Basto wrote: > > On Thu, 2024-02-22 at 20:36 -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 8:32 PM Sérgio Basto > > wrote: > > > > > > On Sun, 2024-01-28 at 20:14 +, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > >

Re: F40 Change Proposal: F40 Change Proposal: Unify /usr/bin and /usr/sbin (System-Wide)

2024-02-23 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 5:44 AM Roy Bekken wrote: > > On fredag 23. februar 2024 02:36:38 CET Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 8:32 PM Sérgio Basto wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 2024-01-28 at 20:14 +, Neal Gompa wrote: >

Re: F40 Change Proposal: F40 Change Proposal: Unify /usr/bin and /usr/sbin (System-Wide)

2024-02-22 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 8:32 PM Sérgio Basto wrote: > > On Sun, 2024-01-28 at 20:14 +, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 7:54 PM Gary Buhrmaster > > wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 7:54 PM Aoife Moloney > > > wrote: >

Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-02-20 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 11:32 AM Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > Neal Gompa wrote: > > Or 3. you could go ask for the feature to be exposed, because in > > Wayland, we have more flexibility on how outputs are managed at all. > > Well, Plasma has had decades to get mult

Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-02-20 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 9:55 AM Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > I have just found another essential feature that is missing in Plasma > Wayland: Under X11, I can scale outputs (at X11 level) ignoring the aspect > ratio. This is essential to unify outputs with different aspect ratios. > E.g., my

Re: Schedule for Monday's FESCo Meeting (2024-02-19)

2024-02-19 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 9:33 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the > FESCo meeting Monday at 19:30 UTC in #meeting:fedoraproject.org > on Matrix. > > To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at >

Re: Feedback wanted - pruning old rawhide chroots in Copr

2024-02-19 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 10:18 AM Stephen Smoogen wrote: > > > > On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 at 10:08, Kevin Kofler via devel > wrote: >> >> Stephen Smoogen wrote: >> > 1. Drive size is not just what is needed but also throughput. The large >> > drives needed to store the data COPR uses for its hundreds

Re: Proposing a Fedora SIG for the upcoming COSMIC desktop environment

2024-02-16 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 4:00 PM Ryan Brue wrote: > > Hello all! This is my first time using a mailing list, but I want to do this > more often in the future :) > > System76, makers of Linux computers and creators of Pop!_OS are currently > working on a desktop environment entirely built in

Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-02-11 Thread Neal Gompa
On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 1:50 AM Kilian Hanich wrote: > > Am 10.02.24 um 09:47 schrieb Neal Gompa: > > Technically, turning off display sync completely is quite difficult > > right now since the actual driver stack in Linux underneath everything > > (both Wayland and X11)

Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-02-10 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 9:10 PM Kilian Hanich via devel wrote: > > > > Am 09.02.24 um 18:28 schrieb Neal Gompa: > > On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 12:16 PM Roy Bekken wrote: > >> > >> On fredag 9. februar 2024 17:41:33 CET Neal Gompa wrote: > >>> O

Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-02-09 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 2:25 PM Roy Bekken wrote: > > On fredag 9. februar 2024 18:28:15 CET Neal Gompa wrote: > > The difference is that we can actually do something about those issues > > with Plasma Wayland when people report them. *Tons* of these kinds of > > issues we

Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-02-09 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 12:16 PM Roy Bekken wrote: > > On fredag 9. februar 2024 17:41:33 CET Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 11:06 AM Roy Bekken wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On fredag 9. februar 2024 04:04:04 CET Steve Cossette wro

Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-02-09 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 11:06 AM Roy Bekken wrote: > > On fredag 9. februar 2024 04:04:04 CET Steve Cossette wrote: > > I am not gonna reply to all of that because all we are doing at this point > > is repeating the same thing. But we are NOT stopping you from using x11. > > You can either build

Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-02-08 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 11:12 PM Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > Steve Cossette wrote: > > But to be fair as well, that doesn't exist on Windows (Windows can > > reopen the programs you are working on but it doesn't save what you were > > doing) > > And even that, it does not do automatically,

Re: Introduction

2024-02-07 Thread Neal Gompa
On Sun, Feb 4, 2024 at 6:08 PM Luis Correia wrote: > > Hi, I'm a long time Fedora user and used to help develop the Ralink Wireless > driver (rt2x00) that's been present in the kernel for a long time. > > I'm now entering the process of helping maintain the mixxx package over at > rpmfusion. >

Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-02-03 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 1:05 PM Sérgio Basto wrote: > > On Fri, 2024-02-02 at 01:34 -0600, Jonathan Bennett via devel wrote: > > Hey folks, outside observer, and long-time Fedora user weighing in > > with > > some thoughts. First off, I've been hyped to see Fedora lead the way > > with finally

Re: Package review ticket status change after approval

2024-02-03 Thread Neal Gompa
On Sat, Feb 3, 2024, 11:04 AM Mattia Verga via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Il 01/02/24 22:44, Fabio Valentini ha scritto: > > On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 7:47 PM Mattia Verga via devel > > wrote: > > (snip) > > > >> That said, I'd like to make a request and maybe make all

Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-02-02 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 10:47 AM Peter Hutterer wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 01, 2024 at 03:40:24PM +, Sérgio Basto wrote: > > On Thu, 2024-02-01 at 15:31 +0100, Leon Fauster via devel wrote: > > > Am 01.02.24 um 14:18 schrieb Sérgio Basto: > > > > > > > > > > The problem is not KDE SIG not support

Re: Failure on fedora default backgrounds

2024-02-01 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 2:04 AM Mamoru TASAKA wrote: > > Luya Tshimbalanga wrote on 2024/02/02 10:25: > > Hello team, > > > > It appears a change within %{_kde4_datadir} macro caused failures on > > Rawhide affecting default Fedora backgrounds starting from 21. > > Could someone from KDE SIG

Re: Self Introduction: Leo Sandoval

2024-02-01 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 12:48 AM Leo Sandoval wrote: > > Dear Fedora Community! > > My name is Leonardo Sandoval, a software developer living in Guadalajara, > Mexico. I have been in the industry since 2006, most of the time close to the > Linux kernel (openmax, gstreamer, glibc, yocto project,

Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-02-01 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 4:44 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 4:40 PM Steven A. Falco wrote: > > > > On 2/1/24 11:28 AM, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 4:21 PM Roberto Ragusa > > > wrote: > > >> > > >> O

Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-02-01 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 4:40 PM Steven A. Falco wrote: > > On 2/1/24 11:28 AM, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 4:21 PM Roberto Ragusa wrote: > >> > >> On 2/1/24 14:29, Steve Cossette wrote: > >> > >>> And yes, that /is/ th

Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-02-01 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 4:21 PM Roberto Ragusa wrote: > > On 2/1/24 14:29, Steve Cossette wrote: > > > And yes, that /is/ the whole point: We want to foster the use of Wayland, > > to increase it's adoption, to force people using it to hit snags along the > > road and fill tickets so those

Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-01-31 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 6:58 AM Mattia Verga via devel wrote: > > Il 31/01/24 23:38, Alessandro Astone ha scritto: > > The "personal attack" is a consideration on the proposed maintainer of > > these packages. > > > >> every effort in order to not to break things must be made. > > Then I cannot

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