Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-05-28 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2014-04-14 at 17:22 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: Huh, you're sure? You have to either remove all removable NVRAM boot entries, or you have to remove the file/device the entry points to trigger the use of //BOOT/BOOTarch.efi. If this isn't working, what does happen instead? It just

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-15 Thread Andrew Lutomirski
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: No. Boot entries in NVRAM come first. See UEFI spec 2.4.0, section 3.4.1.2, and 12.3.1.3 This directory contains EFI images that aide in recovery if the boot selections for the software installed on the EFI system

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-14 Thread Chris Murphy
On Apr 9, 2014, at 12:59 PM, Andrew Lutomirski l...@mit.edu wrote: On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 7:41 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: You need to install or reinstall grub2-efi and shim packages. Aha, a correct answer! Thanks! Based on this hint, I think I figured it out. I

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-14 Thread Andrew Lutomirski
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: On Apr 9, 2014, at 12:59 PM, Andrew Lutomirski l...@mit.edu wrote: On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 7:41 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: You need to install or reinstall grub2-efi and shim packages. Aha, a

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-14 Thread Chris Murphy
On Apr 14, 2014, at 4:04 PM, Andrew Lutomirski l...@mit.edu wrote: Create a boot menu entry can be skipped if it's not a dual boot system. /boot/efi/EFI/BOOT contains shim.efi as bootx64.efi which is run by default on a system without an NVRAM entry already pointing to shim or grub, and a

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-14 Thread Andrew Lutomirski
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: On Apr 14, 2014, at 4:04 PM, Andrew Lutomirski l...@mit.edu wrote: Create a boot menu entry can be skipped if it's not a dual boot system. /boot/efi/EFI/BOOT contains shim.efi as bootx64.efi which is run by default

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-14 Thread Chris Murphy
On Apr 14, 2014, at 4:27 PM, Andrew Lutomirski l...@mit.edu wrote: On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: On Apr 14, 2014, at 4:04 PM, Andrew Lutomirski l...@mit.edu wrote: Create a boot menu entry can be skipped if it's not a dual boot system.

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-09 Thread Andrew Lutomirski
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 7:41 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: You need to install or reinstall grub2-efi and shim packages. Aha, a correct answer! Thanks! Based on this hint, I think I figured it out. I updated the wiki accordingly. Can you take a quick look at:

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-08 Thread Fred New
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 7:30 AM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, 2014-04-08 at 07:16 +0300, Fred New wrote: The Unified Extensible Firmware Interface wiki page is rather outdated and unhelpful as well. In what way? I wrote it, just a month or two ago. I'm not aware of

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-08 Thread Chris Murphy
On Apr 8, 2014, at 9:19 AM, Fred New fred.new2...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 7:30 AM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: In what way? I wrote it, just a month or two ago. I'm not aware of anything in it which is outdated. Sorry, my mistake. I thought this one

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2014-04-08 at 10:54 +0200, Chris Murphy wrote: On Apr 8, 2014, at 9:19 AM, Fred New fred.new2...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 7:30 AM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: In what way? I wrote it, just a month or two ago. I'm not aware of anything in

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-08 Thread Andrew Lutomirski
On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, 2014-04-03 at 19:44 -0700, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: On Apr 3, 2014 7:18 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 04.04.2014 03:08, schrieb Andrew Lutomirski: Once upon a time (Fedora 15? --

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-08 Thread Dan Scott
On Apr 8, 2014 3:19 AM, Fred New fred.new2...@gmail.com wrote: snip And since Windows on my system places itself first in the EFI boot list every time it is booted, That's likely an issue in your system's firmware or Windows install (somehow). It shouldn't be doing that. Yes, it

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-08 Thread Chris Murphy
On Apr 8, 2014, at 9:14 AM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, 2014-04-08 at 10:54 +0200, Chris Murphy wrote: So everyone just needs to stop recommending reinstalling grub this way. I don't think anyone has actually explicitly recommended doing so for UEFI; I just think the

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-08 Thread Chris Murphy
On Apr 8, 2014, at 4:29 PM, Andrew Lutomirski l...@mit.edu wrote: $ sudo efibootmgr -v [snip] Boot0003* grub HD(1,800,4,75f192ff-2a82-4e4e-b83c-c41f3bb39847)File(\EFI\grub\grubx64.efi) Option A: This entry is correct if you aren't using UEFI Secure Boot, and you're using a

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2014-04-03 at 19:44 -0700, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: On Apr 3, 2014 7:18 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 04.04.2014 03:08, schrieb Andrew Lutomirski: Once upon a time (Fedora 15? -- I've lost track), it was possible to reinstall the bootloader using

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-07 Thread Corey Sheldon
its now grub2-install /dev/sdX Corey W Sheldon Owner, 1st Class Mobile Shine 310.909.7672 www.facebook.com/1stclassmobileshine On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 8:16 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, 2014-04-03 at 19:44 -0700, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: On Apr 3, 2014 7:18 PM,

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2014-04-07 at 20:20 -0400, Corey Sheldon wrote: its now grub2-install /dev/sdX It's not for UEFI. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-07 Thread Corey Sheldon
grub2 is the default now with or without uefi Corey W Sheldon Owner, 1st Class Mobile Shine 310.909.7672 www.facebook.com/1stclassmobileshine On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 9:49 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Mon, 2014-04-07 at 20:20 -0400, Corey Sheldon wrote: its now

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-07 Thread Fred New
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 4:49 AM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Mon, 2014-04-07 at 20:20 -0400, Corey Sheldon wrote: its now grub2-install /dev/sdX It's not for UEFI. -- It would be good if someone who knows something could rewrite the GRUB_2 wiki page to say that. And to

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2014-04-07 at 23:54 -0400, Corey Sheldon wrote: grub2 is the default now with or without uefi But you don't run grub2-install on a UEFI native installation of Fedora. UEFI boot loading does not involve a bootloader installed in that manner. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-07 Thread Corey Sheldon
So just to refresh my understanding of your setup: you have a non-bootable system with a standard uefi dual-boot? and you can't seem to get the bootloader (grub) to re-install Corey W Sheldon Owner, 1st Class Mobile Shine 310.909.7672 www.facebook.com/1stclassmobileshine On Tue, Apr 8,

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2014-04-08 at 00:27 -0400, Corey Sheldon wrote: So just to refresh my understanding of your setup: Neither I nor Fred are the original poster who had the problem. He hasn't posted to this thread since Thursday. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter:

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-07 Thread Corey Sheldon
is that a fair understanding as you know the issue? Corey W Sheldon Owner, 1st Class Mobile Shine 310.909.7672 www.facebook.com/1stclassmobileshine On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 12:31 AM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.comwrote: On Tue, 2014-04-08 at 00:27 -0400, Corey Sheldon wrote: So just to

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2014-04-08 at 07:16 +0300, Fred New wrote: The Unified Extensible Firmware Interface wiki page is rather outdated and unhelpful as well. In what way? I wrote it, just a month or two ago. I'm not aware of anything in it which is outdated. If you have UEFI and you have run

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-04 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 04.04.2014 04:44, schrieb Andrew Lutomirski: On Apr 3, 2014 7:18 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: besides that it is the wrong list: What's the right list? the users list, not the developers list grub2-install $ grub2-install /usr/sbin/grub2-probe: error: cannot

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-04 Thread Fred New
On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.netwrote: Am 04.04.2014 04:44, schrieb Andrew Lutomirski: On Apr 3, 2014 7:18 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: besides that it is the wrong list: What's the right list? the users list, not the developers

Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-03 Thread Andrew Lutomirski
Once upon a time (Fedora 15? -- I've lost track), it was possible to reinstall the bootloader using grub-install. Nowadays it's a clusterfsck. I've managed to screw up my bootloader. Is there a way to reinstall it without reinstalling the world? Would it make sense to split the whole

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-03 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 04.04.2014 03:08, schrieb Andrew Lutomirski: Once upon a time (Fedora 15? -- I've lost track), it was possible to reinstall the bootloader using grub-install. besides that it is the wrong list: grub2-install Nowadays it's a clusterfsck. I've managed to screw up my bootloader. Is

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-03 Thread Andrew Lutomirski
On Apr 3, 2014 7:18 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 04.04.2014 03:08, schrieb Andrew Lutomirski: Once upon a time (Fedora 15? -- I've lost track), it was possible to reinstall the bootloader using grub-install. besides that it is the wrong list: What's the right

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-03 Thread Ankur Sinha
On Thu, 2014-04-03 at 18:08 -0700, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: Once upon a time (Fedora 15? -- I've lost track), it was possible to reinstall the bootloader using grub-install. Just wondering if you've read this page yet: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GRUB_2?rd=Grub2 -- Thanks, Warm regards,

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-03 Thread Andrew Lutomirski
On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 8:09 PM, Ankur Sinha sanjay.an...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 2014-04-03 at 18:08 -0700, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: Once upon a time (Fedora 15? -- I've lost track), it was possible to reinstall the bootloader using grub-install. Just wondering if you've read this page yet: