Re: Packages with missing %check

2014-02-27 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 06:50:56PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2014-02-26 at 21:53 +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: It happens too often in Rawhide, and a simple test (in %check or elsewhere) could fix it. You can't really test a system boot in a package's %check. That's very

Re: Packages with missing %check

2014-02-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2014-02-27 at 08:09 +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 06:50:56PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2014-02-26 at 21:53 +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: It happens too often in Rawhide, and a simple test (in %check or elsewhere) could fix it. You

Re: [Base] Fedora Base Design Working Group (2014-02-21) meeting minutes and logs

2014-02-27 Thread Vratislav Podzimek
On Wed, 2014-02-26 at 11:46 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2014-02-26 at 11:17 +0100, Karel Zak wrote: Don't try to be smart to everyone, it does not work. IMHO all you need is to support one or a very few scenarios (complete scenarios without customization) and a way how to

Re: [Base] Fedora Base Design Working Group (2014-02-21) meeting minutes and logs

2014-02-27 Thread Vratislav Podzimek
On Thu, 2014-02-27 at 09:17 +0100, Vratislav Podzimek wrote: On Wed, 2014-02-26 at 11:46 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2014-02-26 at 11:17 +0100, Karel Zak wrote: Don't try to be smart to everyone, it does not work. IMHO all you need is to support one or a very few scenarios

Re: Packages with missing %check

2014-02-27 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 12:12:59AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2014-02-27 at 08:09 +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 06:50:56PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2014-02-26 at 21:53 +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: It happens too often in

Re: Packages with missing %check

2014-02-27 Thread Alexander Todorov
На 26.02.2014 15:56, David Howells написа: Alexander Todorov atodo...@redhat.com wrote: How about making %check a packaging requirement in all cases - run tests or add a comment explaining why not, how to run them (e.g. make test) or why there are no tests for this package. Does %check

Re: Packages with missing %check

2014-02-27 Thread Dridi Boukelmoune
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Alexander Todorov atodo...@redhat.com wrote: На 26.02.2014 15:56, David Howells написа: Alexander Todorov atodo...@redhat.com wrote: How about making %check a packaging requirement in all cases - run tests or add a comment explaining why not, how to run

PRDs/Tech Specs to formal Change Proposals and Change submission deadline

2014-02-27 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
Hi, at yesterday's FESCo meeting, it was agreed on setting deadlines for Change submission for Fedora 21 [1] and to process PRDs into Change proposals. AGREED: Fedora Changes Process submission deadline for system-wide changes is April 7th. Deadline for true standalone changes will be sometime

Self Introduction: Till Hofmann

2014-02-27 Thread Till Hofmann
Hey everyone, my name is Till Hofmann and I'm a student working for the Knowledge Based Systems Group ( http://kbsg.rwth-aachen.de/ ) at RWTH Aachen University in Germany. Since we are packaging the robotics software framework Fawkes ( http://fawkesrobotics.org/ ) for Fedora, I joined the project

Re: Why libicu soname bump required harfbuzz package to be built twice?

2014-02-27 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi David, On Friday, 2014-02-14 17:48:42 +0100, David Tardon wrote: It was mainly a communication problem: I was prepared to handle the rebuilds, but when Eike did not ping me that he built new ICU, I assumed that he got hold of some other provenpackager :-( Ok, next time I'll explicitly

Re: libicu soname bump in rawhide

2014-02-27 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Jakub, On Friday, 2014-02-14 13:40:26 +0100, Jakub Jelinek wrote: upstream to consider providing stable API/ABI, symbol versioning etc.? I mean, if a shared library has 1-2 users, we can still live with it being in constant flux, but for a widely used shared library stable public ABI is

Re: default file system, was: Comparison to Workstation Technical Specification

2014-02-27 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/27/2014 12:18 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Feb 26, 2014, at 5:33 PM, Josef Bacik jo...@toxicpanda.com mailto:jo...@toxicpanda.com wrote: Just popping in here to say that btrfs is not ready to be default in Fedora yet. Optional is fine

Re: Packages with missing %check

2014-02-27 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 4:49 AM, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 12:12:59AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2014-02-27 at 08:09 +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 06:50:56PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2014-02-26 at

Re: default file system, was: Comparison to Workstation Technical Specification

2014-02-27 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/27/2014 07:53 AM, Rui Tiago Cação Matos wrote: On 27 February 2014 13:43, Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com wrote: Formal proposal (for discussion): All three products agree to use ext4 for /boot and XFS-on-LVM for all other partitions

Re: default file system, was: Comparison to Workstation Technical Specification

2014-02-27 Thread Jacob Yundt
Fortunately for me, I set it up on LVM. I went out, bought a new hard drive, inserted it, added it to the volume group and then ran 'pvmove' to migrate all of the sectors off of the original drive to the new one. What did you do with your /boot partition? -Jacob -- devel mailing list

Re: Packages with missing %check

2014-02-27 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 08:04:10AM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: The kernels that are built are tested at a minimum on 3 machines before I even put them to git. I didn't realize this happened, so my apologies for making claims about testing which aren't true. Is it possible you can boot them in

Re: default file system, was: Comparison to Workstation Technical Specification

2014-02-27 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/27/2014 08:10 AM, Jacob Yundt wrote: Fortunately for me, I set it up on LVM. I went out, bought a new hard drive, inserted it, added it to the volume group and then ran 'pvmove' to migrate all of the sectors off of the original drive to the

[perl-MooseX-GlobRef] Fix bogus date in %changelog

2014-02-27 Thread Paul Howarth
commit c5b20c8480106ec8a4336facddceadb794bcb1a8 Author: Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org Date: Thu Feb 27 13:17:45 2014 + Fix bogus date in %changelog perl-MooseX-GlobRef.spec |2 +- 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-MooseX-GlobRef.spec

Re: Packages with missing %check

2014-02-27 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 8:13 AM, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 08:04:10AM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: The kernels that are built are tested at a minimum on 3 machines before I even put them to git. I didn't realize this happened, so my apologies for making

Wiki pages: Missing tests in %check and missing upstream test suites

2014-02-27 Thread Alexander Todorov
Hi folks, thanks for your feedback in the last few days. I've created two wiki pages about packages which don't execute their tests in %check: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Testing_in_check and another one for packages which don't seem to have test suites at all:

Re: Wiki pages: Missing tests in %check and missing upstream test suites

2014-02-27 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 03:55:02PM +0200, Alexander Todorov wrote: Hi folks, thanks for your feedback in the last few days. I've created two wiki pages about packages which don't execute their tests in %check: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Testing_in_check Of the two packages that have

F21 System Wide Change: Remove python-setuptools-devel

2014-02-27 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Proposed System Wide Change: Remove python-setuptools-devel = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Remove_Python-setuptools-devel Change owner(s): Toshio Kuratomi tos...@fedoraproject.org The python-setuptools package has carried a virtual Provide for python- setuptools-devel since 2009 for

Re: Wiki pages: Missing tests in %check and missing upstream test suites

2014-02-27 Thread Alexander Todorov
На 27.02.2014 16:18, Richard W.M. Jones написа: Attached is a proposed patch to the spec file. I ran this under auto-buildrequires to see if it would need any extra BRs, but auto-br didn't find any. Richard, can you point me to what auto-buildrequires is, where it lives and how do I use

[perl-Perlbal-XS-HTTPHeaders/el6] new upstream version

2014-02-27 Thread Luis Enrique Bazán De León
commit 683abcf3da2f31f072b9868faebdb3d9d1b7a80a Author: lbazan lba...@fedoraproject.org Date: Thu Feb 27 10:50:36 2014 -0500 new upstream version .gitignore |1 + perl-Perlbal-XS-HTTPHeaders.spec |7 +-- sources |2 +- 3 files

F21 System Wide Change: Access control in PCSC

2014-02-27 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Proposed System Wide Change: Access control in PCSC = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/PcscAccessControl Change owner(s): Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos n...@redhat.com Add access control to PC/SC smart cards available in the system. Adding access control would (a) prevent unauthorized

F21 System Wide Change: Ruby 2.1

2014-02-27 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Proposed System Wide Change: Ruby 2.1 = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Ruby_2.1 Change owner(s): Vít Ondruch vondr...@redhat.com Ruby 2.1 is the latest stable version of Ruby, with major increases in speed, memory efficiency and reliability. With this major update from Ruby 2.0.0 in

Re: Wiki pages: Missing tests in %check and missing upstream test suites

2014-02-27 Thread Christopher Meng
Interesting : fedora-release-notes ***-fonts Can someone point me how to test them? -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: Wiki pages: Missing tests in %check and missing upstream test suites

2014-02-27 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 05:49:05PM +0200, Alexander Todorov wrote: На 27.02.2014 16:18, Richard W.M. Jones написа: Attached is a proposed patch to the spec file. I ran this under auto-buildrequires to see if it would need any extra BRs, but auto-br didn't find any. Richard, can you

F21 System Wide Change: System-wide crypto policy

2014-02-27 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Proposed System Wide Change: System-wide crypto policy = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/CryptoPolicy Change owner(s): Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos n...@redhat.com Unify the crypto policies used by different applications and libraries. That is allow setting a consistent security level for

Re: F21 System Wide Change: System-wide crypto policy

2014-02-27 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com wrote: and being applied after executing update-crypto-profiles. (Note: it would be better to have a daemon that watches those files and runs update-crypto-profiles automatically) Was the option of patching the libraries

Re: F21 System Wide Change: System-wide crypto policy

2014-02-27 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Feb 27, 2014 8:25 AM, Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com wrote: = Proposed System Wide Change: System-wide crypto policy = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/CryptoPolicy == Detailed Description == The idea is to have some predefined security levels such as LEVEL-80, LEVEL-128,

Re: F21 System Wide Change: System-wide crypto policy

2014-02-27 Thread Bill Nottingham
Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said: = Proposed System Wide Change: System-wide crypto policy = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/CryptoPolicy Change owner(s): Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos n...@redhat.com Unify the crypto policies used by different applications and libraries. That

Re: default file system, was: Comparison to Workstation Technical Specification

2014-02-27 Thread Bill Nottingham
Stephen Gallagher (sgall...@redhat.com) said: Directed more broadly at all three products: Formal proposal (for discussion): All three products agree to use ext4 for /boot and XFS-on-LVM for all other partitions in the guided mode. All is fair game in the custom mode. Also, for the sake

Re: exclude people from giving karma?

2014-02-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2014-02-27 at 02:18 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: Miloslav Trmač wrote: I fully agree with you testers giving +1 is not even close to proper validation, but what alternative to get proper validation do you propose as an improvement? Dropping autokarma would replace broken validation

Re: F21 System Wide Change: System-wide crypto policy

2014-02-27 Thread Andrew Lutomirski
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 9:22 AM, Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com wrote: = Proposed System Wide Change: System-wide crypto policy = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/CryptoPolicy Change owner(s): Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos n...@redhat.com Unify the crypto policies used by different

Re: F21 System Wide Change: System-wide crypto policy

2014-02-27 Thread Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
On Thu, 2014-02-27 at 16:35 +, Colin Walters wrote: wrote: and being applied after executing update-crypto-profiles. (Note: it would be better to have a daemon that watches those files and runs update-crypto-profiles automatically) Was the option of patching the libraries to *directly*

Re: F21 System Wide Change: System-wide crypto policy

2014-02-27 Thread Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
On Thu, 2014-02-27 at 08:42 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: After that the administrator should be assured that any application that uses the system settings will follow a policy that adheres to the configured profile. Ideally setting a profile should be setting: * the acceptable TLS/SSL

Re: F21 System Wide Change: System-wide crypto policy

2014-02-27 Thread Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
On Thu, 2014-02-27 at 10:12 -0700, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: == Detailed Description == The idea is to have some predefined security levels such as LEVEL-80, LEVEL-128, LEVEL-256, or ENISA-LEGACY, ENISA-FUTURE, SUITEB-128, SUITEB-256. These will be the security levels that the

Re: F21 System Wide Change: System-wide crypto policy

2014-02-27 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com wrote: Unify the crypto policies used by different applications and libraries. That is allow setting a consistent security level for crypto on all applications in a Fedora system. As others have noted, crypto tech

Re: F21 System Wide Change: System-wide crypto policy

2014-02-27 Thread Andrew Lutomirski
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos n...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, 2014-02-27 at 10:12 -0700, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: == Detailed Description == The idea is to have some predefined security levels such as LEVEL-80, LEVEL-128, LEVEL-256, or ENISA-LEGACY,

Re: F21 System Wide Change: System-wide crypto policy

2014-02-27 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 11:52:01AM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said: = Proposed System Wide Change: System-wide crypto policy = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/CryptoPolicy Change owner(s): Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos n...@redhat.com Unify

Re: F21 System Wide Change: System-wide crypto policy

2014-02-27 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 27 February 2014 10:58, Andrew Lutomirski l...@mit.edu wrote: We have to document that, but there will be always ways to shoot someones foot. There are legitimate uses of increasing a security level (if one for example sets up machines to be used in a LAN). If someone sets

Re: F21 System Wide Change: System-wide crypto policy

2014-02-27 Thread Andrew Lutomirski
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 February 2014 10:58, Andrew Lutomirski l...@mit.edu wrote: We have to document that, but there will be always ways to shoot someones foot. There are legitimate uses of increasing a security level (if

Re: default file system, was: Comparison to Workstation Technical Specification

2014-02-27 Thread Chris Murphy
On Feb 27, 2014, at 5:43 AM, Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com wrote: Question for the cloud folks: I realize that XFS is a difficult pill to swallow for /boot, due to your use of syslinux instead of GRUB2. If the Server and Workstation groups decide to settle on both using

Self Introduction: Julien Enselme

2014-02-27 Thread Julien Enselme
Hi, I am Julien Enselme, a French student in engineering. I have been a Linux user for 5 years and a fedora user for ~4 years. Some of the packages I need are not yet available in Fedora. Thus I would like to become a package maintainer. I have submitted two reviews : - python-svgwrite to

Re: default file system, was: Comparison to Workstation Technical Specification

2014-02-27 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 07:43:53AM -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote: I realize that XFS is a difficult pill to swallow for /boot, due to your use of syslinux instead of GRUB2. If the Server and Workstation groups decide to settle on both using XFS-on-LVM for the main partitions, we could

Re: default file system, was: Comparison to Workstation Technical Specification

2014-02-27 Thread Chris Murphy
On Feb 27, 2014, at 12:22 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: On Feb 27, 2014, at 5:43 AM, Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com wrote: Question for the cloud folks: I realize that XFS is a difficult pill to swallow for /boot, due to your use of syslinux instead of GRUB2.

Re: default file system, was: Comparison to Workstation Technical Specification

2014-02-27 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2014-02-27/fedora-meeting-1.2014-02-27-15.00.log.html OK super, pretty much all Server WG questions are answered. That was easy. Summary is they are going to go with

Re: default file system, was: Comparison to Workstation Technical Specification

2014-02-27 Thread Les Howell
On Thu, 2014-02-27 at 13:07 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: On Feb 27, 2014, at 12:22 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: On Feb 27, 2014, at 5:43 AM, Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com wrote: Question for the cloud folks: I realize that XFS is a difficult pill to

Re: default file system, was: Comparison to Workstation Technical Specification

2014-02-27 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 27 Feb 2014 15:01:47 -0500 Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 07:43:53AM -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote: I realize that XFS is a difficult pill to swallow for /boot, due to your use of syslinux instead

Introduction: James Harshaw

2014-02-27 Thread James Wilson Harshaw IV
Hello! My name is James Wilson Harshaw IV. I have been using Fedora for a few years now, but recently really wanted to get more involved. I have a pretty good amount of knowledge in C, C++, PHP, Perl, Golang, and Java. I hope to use this knowledge to benefit the project. A little about me: I

Re: default file system, was: Comparison to Workstation Technical Specification

2014-02-27 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 3:59 PM, Dennis Gilmore den...@ausil.us wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 27 Feb 2014 15:01:47 -0500 Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 07:43:53AM -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote: I realize that XFS is a

Re: default file system, was: Comparison to Workstation Technical Specification

2014-02-27 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 04:03:06PM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: Or, as an alternative, XFS support could be added to u-boot and/or syslinux. Never eliminate the possibility of actually writing code to fix problems. All it takes is someone willing to do work ;). Right, and as I understand it,

Re: default file system, was: Comparison to Workstation Technical Specification

2014-02-27 Thread James Wilson Harshaw IV
A question I have is XFS worth it? On 02/27/2014 04:06 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 04:03:06PM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: Or, as an alternative, XFS support could be added to u-boot and/or syslinux. Never eliminate the possibility of actually writing code to fix problems.

Re: default file system, was: Comparison to Workstation Technical Specification

2014-02-27 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 12:47:21PM -0800, Les Howell wrote: My question may seem dumb, but will the systems still function without the net? Cloud services are wonderful in their promise, but my experience with availability of the net lead me to be suspicious, and I don't see how this is

[perl-IO-Socket-IP/f19] (13 commits) ...0.29 bump

2014-02-27 Thread Petr Šabata
Summary of changes: 79265c5... 0.20 bump (*) 7fe63ab... 0.21 bump (*) cc37780... Perl 5.18 rebuild (*) 15f3e4b... Disable the SO_REUSEPORT test; koji builders don't support (*) f50cbc9... 5.18 rebuild merge (*) 66589ad... 0.22 bump (*) ca163a1... - Rebuilt for

[perl-IO-Socket-IP/f20] (3 commits) ...0.29 bump

2014-02-27 Thread Petr Šabata
Summary of changes: b624230... 0.27 bump, test suite enhancements only (*) b700fd5... 0.28 bump (*) 8b1293e... 0.29 bump (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel

Re: default file system, was: Comparison to Workstation Technical Specification

2014-02-27 Thread Chris Murphy
On Feb 27, 2014, at 1:13 PM, Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2014-02-27/fedora-meeting-1.2014-02-27-15.00.log.html OK super, pretty much all Server WG

Re: exclude people from giving karma?

2014-02-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2014-02-27 at 09:07 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2014-02-27 at 02:18 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: Miloslav Trmač wrote: I fully agree with you testers giving +1 is not even close to proper validation, but what alternative to get proper validation do you propose as an

[Bug 1065043] Not a HASH reference at /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl/IO/Socket/SSL.pm line 689.

2014-02-27 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1065043 --- Comment #3 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org --- perl-IO-Socket-IP-0.29-1.fc19 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 19. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/perl-IO-Socket-IP-0.29-1.fc19 -- You are receiving

Re: default file system, was: Comparison to Workstation Technical Specification

2014-02-27 Thread Jochen Schmitt
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 04:08:46PM -0500, James Wilson Harshaw IV wrote: A question I have is XFS worth it? I have done some testing with RHEL 7 Beta which use XFS as a default file system. I have to recorgnize, that the -r switch of the lvresize command doesn't cooperate with xfs in oppoiste

Re: default file system, was: Comparison to Workstation Technical Specification

2014-02-27 Thread James Wilson Harshaw IV
Interesting. If someone could confirm that this remains true with Fedora 20, it would be extremely beneficial. On 02/27/2014 05:02 PM, Jochen Schmitt wrote: On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 04:08:46PM -0500, James Wilson Harshaw IV wrote: A question I have is XFS worth it? I have done some testing

lvresize and XFS, was: default file system

2014-02-27 Thread Chris Murphy
On Feb 27, 2014, at 3:02 PM, Jochen Schmitt joc...@herr-schmitt.de wrote: On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 04:08:46PM -0500, James Wilson Harshaw IV wrote: A question I have is XFS worth it? I have done some testing with RHEL 7 Beta which use XFS as a default file system. I have to recorgnize,

Re: default file system, was: Comparison to Workstation Technical Specification

2014-02-27 Thread Eric Sandeen
On 2/27/14, 4:08 PM, James Wilson Harshaw IV wrote: Interesting. If someone could confirm that this remains true with Fedora 20, it would be extremely beneficial. With details, please, as Chris requested. doesn't cooperate is not enough to go on. ;) Thanks, -Eric On 02/27/2014 05:02 PM,

Re: lvresize and XFS, was: default file system

2014-02-27 Thread Chris Murphy
On Feb 27, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: On Feb 27, 2014, at 3:02 PM, Jochen Schmitt joc...@herr-schmitt.de wrote: On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 04:08:46PM -0500, James Wilson Harshaw IV wrote: A question I have is XFS worth it? I have done some testing with

Re: lvresize and XFS, was: default file system

2014-02-27 Thread James Harshaw
So far my small of research shows it isn't that big of a problem. We should look more into it thought. On Feb 27, 2014 5:41 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: On Feb 27, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: On Feb 27, 2014, at 3:02 PM, Jochen Schmitt

Re: lvresize and XFS, was: default file system

2014-02-27 Thread Eric Sandeen
On 2/27/14, 4:40 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Feb 27, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: On Feb 27, 2014, at 3:02 PM, Jochen Schmitt joc...@herr-schmitt.de wrote: On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 04:08:46PM -0500, James Wilson Harshaw IV wrote: A question I have is XFS

Re: lvresize and XFS, was: default file system

2014-02-27 Thread James Harshaw
Haha! Error: stuff happened. On Feb 27, 2014 6:02 PM, Eric Sandeen sand...@redhat.com wrote: On 2/27/14, 4:40 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Feb 27, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: On Feb 27, 2014, at 3:02 PM, Jochen Schmitt joc...@herr-schmitt.de wrote:

Re: default file system, was: Comparison to Workstation Technical Specification

2014-02-27 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 27 February 2014 15:02, Jochen Schmitt joc...@herr-schmitt.de wrote: On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 04:08:46PM -0500, James Wilson Harshaw IV wrote: A question I have is XFS worth it? I have done some testing with RHEL 7 Beta which use XFS as a default file system. I have to recorgnize, that

LVMthinp (was: default file system - Comparison to Workstation TS)

2014-02-27 Thread Chris Murphy
Server Technical Specification Working Session http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2014-02-27/fedora-meeting-1.2014-02-27-15.00.log.html 16:06:36 sgallagh simo: To answer your question about overcommit: that is *possible*, but we can be smarter about it in the default

Re: default file system, was: Comparison to Workstation Technical Specification

2014-02-27 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 27 Feb 2014 16:03:06 -0500 Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 3:59 PM, Dennis Gilmore den...@ausil.us wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 27 Feb 2014 15:01:47 -0500 Matthew

Re: exclude people from giving karma?

2014-02-27 Thread Kevin Kofler
Christopher Meng wrote: Kevin, I think you are talking about releasing models... I'm talking about having the maintainer actually OK the push to stable after having checked the situation (or at least he/she is supposed to have checked it!), rather than letting the update go out automatically

Re: exclude people from giving karma?

2014-02-27 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, 2014-02-27 at 02:18 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: But again, I think that even with no other policy change, just removing the karma automatism misfeature from Bodhi would be an improvement. Or requiring min time in updates-testing (2-3 days) before an autokarma-assisted push.

Re: exclude people from giving karma?

2014-02-27 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 28.02.2014 03:54, schrieb Michael Catanzaro: On Thu, 2014-02-27 at 02:18 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: But again, I think that even with no other policy change, just removing the karma automatism misfeature from Bodhi would be an improvement. Or requiring min time in updates-testing (2-3

Re: default file system, was: Comparison to Workstation Technical Specification

2014-02-27 Thread Chris Murphy
On Feb 26, 2014, at 12:53 PM, Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com wrote: Chris Murphy wrote: by default we put ext4 on LVM The tool works in this use-case unless something has broken it recently. It can be done, the convert tool should work, and Btrfs should work on any device mapper

Re: default file system, was: Comparison to Workstation Technical Specification

2014-02-27 Thread James Wilson Harshaw IV
On 02/27/2014 11:20 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Feb 26, 2014, at 12:53 PM, Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com wrote: Chris Murphy wrote: by default we put ext4 on LVM The tool works in this use-case unless something has broken it recently. It can be done, the convert tool should work, and

Re: default file system, was: Comparison to Workstation Technical Specification

2014-02-27 Thread Eric Sandeen
On 2/27/14, 10:53 PM, James Wilson Harshaw IV wrote: On 02/27/2014 11:20 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Feb 26, 2014, at 12:53 PM, Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com wrote: Chris Murphy wrote: by default we put ext4 on LVM The tool works in this use-case unless something has broken it

Re: default file system, was: Comparison to Workstation Technical Specification

2014-02-27 Thread James Wilson Harshaw IV
On 02/28/2014 12:41 AM, Eric Sandeen wrote: On 2/27/14, 10:53 PM, James Wilson Harshaw IV wrote: On 02/27/2014 11:20 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Feb 26, 2014, at 12:53 PM, Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com wrote: Chris Murphy wrote: by default we put ext4 on LVM The tool works in this

Re: default file system, was: Comparison to Workstation Technical Specification

2014-02-27 Thread Chris Murphy
On Feb 27, 2014, at 9:53 PM, James Wilson Harshaw IV jwhars...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/27/2014 11:20 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: In the context of the default ext4+LVM layout the conversion still means separate /boot, /, and /home file systems. A major benefit of the Btrfs layout is these

Re: default file system, was: Comparison to Workstation Technical Specification

2014-02-27 Thread James Wilson Harshaw IV
On 02/28/2014 12:57 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: All I mean is, you can't do an ext4-Btrfs conversion and get the Btrfs preset the installer offers. You get something really different that not many people will likely have. So if you're the audience who wants a recommended layout by using

Re: default file system, was: Comparison to Workstation Technical Specification

2014-02-27 Thread Chris Murphy
On Feb 27, 2014, at 10:56 PM, James Wilson Harshaw IV jwhars...@gmail.com wrote: Yet what was the main point that it wasn't ready yet? It was easy to miss if you don't know the name Josef Bacik, but he's one of the upstream Btrfs maintainers. He said here in this thread yesterday that it's

Re: default file system, was: Comparison to Workstation Technical Specification

2014-02-27 Thread James Wilson Harshaw IV
On 02/28/2014 01:03 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Feb 27, 2014, at 10:56 PM, James Wilson Harshaw IV jwhars...@gmail.com wrote: Yet what was the main point that it wasn't ready yet? It was easy to miss if you don't know the name Josef Bacik, but he's one of the upstream Btrfs maintainers. He

Re: default file system, was: Comparison to Workstation Technical Specification

2014-02-27 Thread Chris Murphy
On Feb 27, 2014, at 11:07 PM, James Wilson Harshaw IV jwhars...@gmail.com wrote: I apologize, I guess I did not get the whole background out of it. What filesystems are we considering? It's XFS vs ext4 and Server WG has agreed on XFS on LVM. There's 92 messages in this thread, and they're

File Symbol-Global-Name-0.05.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by corsepiu

2014-02-27 Thread corsepiu
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Symbol-Global-Name: 95e374d0f0df78d593de208f651391d6 Symbol-Global-Name-0.05.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-Symbol-Global-Name] Upstream update.

2014-02-27 Thread corsepiu
commit 7e78b2611682e9eb97aca77c75b6d7429e98e778 Author: Ralf Corsépius corse...@fedoraproject.org Date: Thu Feb 27 09:38:16 2014 +0100 Upstream update. .gitignore |2 +- perl-Symbol-Global-Name.spec |5 - sources |2 +- 3 files

Broken dependencies: perl-PDL

2014-02-27 Thread buildsys
perl-PDL has broken dependencies in the epel-7 tree: On ppc64: perl-PDL-2.7.0-2.el7.1.ppc64 requires perl(PDL::Slatec) Please resolve this as soon as possible. -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list

[perl-MooseX-GlobRef/epel7] (3 commits) ...Fix bogus date in %changelog

2014-02-27 Thread Paul Howarth
Summary of changes: 36a21b5... Perl 5.18 rebuild (*) a933106... - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Mass (*) c5b20c8... Fix bogus date in %changelog (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG

[perl-TAP-Harness-Env] This package is intended for F-20 and EPEL-7 only

2014-02-27 Thread Paul Howarth
commit 400d3a777d5a4025b904cad8df8f00efcba12d40 Author: Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org Date: Thu Feb 27 14:05:47 2014 + This package is intended for F-20 and EPEL-7 only .gitignore |1 + dead.package | 10 ++ 2 files changed, 11 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) --- diff

[pkgdb] perl-TAP-Harness-Env (un)retirement

2014-02-27 Thread Fedora PackageDB
Package perl-TAP-Harness-Env in Fedora devel has been retired by pghmcfc To make changes to this package see: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/perl-TAP-Harness-Env -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list

[perl-Module-Build-Tiny/f20] (5 commits) ...Update to 0.035

2014-02-27 Thread Paul Howarth
Summary of changes: acd05f2... Update to 0.030 (*) 7b2a31a... Update to 0.032 (*) 8c1a5f1... Update to 0.033 (*) d536e90... Update to 0.034 (*) c80d397... Update to 0.035 (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG

[perl-MooseX-GlobRef] Created tag perl-MooseX-GlobRef-0.0701-9.el7

2014-02-27 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-MooseX-GlobRef-0.0701-9.el7' was created pointing to: c5b20c8... Fix bogus date in %changelog -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-MooseX-InsideOut] Created tag perl-MooseX-InsideOut-0.106-6.el7

2014-02-27 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-MooseX-InsideOut-0.106-6.el7' was created pointing to: b86b149... - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Mass -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-Module-Build-Tiny/epel7] (5 commits) ...Update to 0.035

2014-02-27 Thread Paul Howarth
Summary of changes: acd05f2... Update to 0.030 (*) 7b2a31a... Update to 0.032 (*) 8c1a5f1... Update to 0.033 (*) d536e90... Update to 0.034 (*) c80d397... Update to 0.035 (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG

[Bug 1056343] Please update perl-Module-Build-Tiny

2014-02-27 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1056343 --- Comment #3 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org --- perl-TAP-Harness-Env-3.30-3.fc20,perl-Module-Build-Tiny-0.035-1.fc20 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 20.

[Bug 1056343] Please update perl-Module-Build-Tiny

2014-02-27 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1056343 Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org changed: What|Removed |Added Status|CLOSED |MODIFIED

[perl-Module-Build-Tiny] Created tag perl-Module-Build-Tiny-0.035-1.fc20

2014-02-27 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-Module-Build-Tiny-0.035-1.fc20' was created pointing to: c80d397... Update to 0.035 -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-Module-Build-Tiny] Created tag perl-Module-Build-Tiny-0.035-1.el7

2014-02-27 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-Module-Build-Tiny-0.035-1.el7' was created pointing to: c80d397... Update to 0.035 -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-Test-Prereq] Created tag perl-Test-Prereq-1.037-11.el7

2014-02-27 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-Test-Prereq-1.037-11.el7' was created pointing to: b5d28c9... - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Mass -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[Bug 1064689] 0.34 version request

2014-02-27 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1064689 Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org changed: What|Removed |Added Fixed In Version|

[perl-MooseX-Role-WithOverloading] We have Test::CheckDeps now

2014-02-27 Thread Paul Howarth
commit 5b018c5df05229e84f8fd28948488565ffb8bcde Author: Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org Date: Thu Feb 27 14:56:28 2014 + We have Test::CheckDeps now perl-MooseX-Role-WithOverloading.spec | 17 - 1 files changed, 8 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-) --- diff --git

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