Re: Some analysis on the size of the minimal and Server installs of Fedora 23

2015-11-18 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 03:30:54PM +0100, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > b'dnf-plugins-core': 117 > Nice to have, however Minimal installation can live without it. Since protected_packages is part of this, I don't agree. Sure, it's technically removable, but if someone starts from minimal and builds

Re: DNF is completly unable to act with local packages

2015-11-18 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 10:03 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote: > Dne 18.11.2015 v 15:53 Neal Gompa napsal(a): >> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 9:48 AM, Panu Matilainen >> wrote: >>> Right. Only took eight years for anybody to notice ;) >>> >>> - Panu - >>>

F24 System Wide Change: Systemd file triggers

2015-11-18 Thread Jan Kurik
= Proposed System Wide Change: Systemd file triggers = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/systemd_file_triggers Change owner(s): Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek systemd daemon-reload is invoked once or twice per rpm transaction. == Detailed Description == Instead of having every package which

F24 System Wide Change: Systemd package split

2015-11-18 Thread Jan Kurik
= Proposed System Wide Change: Systemd package split = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/systemd_package_split Change owner(s): Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek Two new subpackages will be split out from the main systemd package. systemd-container will contain stuff for launching and managing

F24 System Wide Change: GHC 7.10

2015-11-18 Thread Jan Kurik
= Proposed System Wide Change: GHC 7.10 = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GHC_7.10 Change owner(s): Jens Petersen Update Fedora's version of the GHC Haskell compiler to version 7.10. == Detailed Description == GHC 7.10 is major new version of the de facto standard Haskell compiler

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 24 Rawhide 20151117 nightly compose nominated for testing

2015-11-18 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2015-11-18 at 09:57 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 07:38:43PM -0800, adamw...@fedoraproject.org wrote: > > for Fedora 24 Rawhide 20151117. Please help run some tests for this > > nightly compose if you have time. For more information on nightly > > release

poppler soname bump in rawhide

2015-11-18 Thread Marek Kasik
Hi, I plan to rebase poppler in rawhide to poppler-0.38.0 during the next week. There are several API changes and soname bump of the base library libpoppler.so.*. I've prepared a scratch build of poppler-0.38.0 against which you can test your packages. You can find the build here:

Re: Some analysis on the size of the minimal and Server installs of Fedora 23

2015-11-18 Thread Dan Williams
On Tue, 2015-11-17 at 17:36 -0600, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > > > > > > "DW" == Dan Williams writes: > > DW> Could you confirm what NetworkManager-* packages are installed on > DW> F23 server? > > On my custom install (which just lists the packages I need in my > kickstart

Re: Some analysis on the size of the minimal and Server installs of Fedora 23

2015-11-18 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "DW" == Dan Williams writes: DW> I suppose NM-tui could be pulled out of Server since not that many DW> other things require newt, and nmcli is always going to be there DW> anyway. For some reason I thought NM-tui _was_ nmcli. There's no reason to have anything other

Re: building conflicting packages from a single spec

2015-11-18 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 11/18/2015 05:26 AM, Pádraig Brady wrote: Is $subject possible? For example generating subpackages like: %{name}-small-but-slow-binaries %{name}-fast-but-big-binaries I can %prep and %install into separate areas, though was then wondering how to adjust the buildroot for subpackages?

Re: building conflicting packages from a single spec

2015-11-18 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "PB" == Pádraig Brady writes: PB> What I've done in %post is to mv the conflicting files from a temp PB> to standard location, overwriting any existing files. You really, really shouldn't do that. Really. - J< -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Some analysis on the size of the minimal and Server installs of Fedora 23

2015-11-18 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 03:30:54PM +0100, Miroslav Suchý wrote: >> > b'dnf-plugins-core': 117 >> Nice to have, however Minimal installation can live without it. > > Since protected_packages is part of this, I

Re: Attempting to contact unresponsive maintainer - oschreib

2015-11-18 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 10:10:52 +0100 Juan Hernández wrote: > On 11/18/2015 12:57 AM, Douglas Schilling Landgraf wrote: > > Adding Juan into the loop. He might be interested. > > > > I'm have been maintaining these package for a while, and I'm > interested in continue to

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 24 Rawhide 20151117 nightly compose nominated for testing

2015-11-18 Thread Jan Sedlak
I've run all openQA tests on 20151117 and it seems to work OK (after some fixes in our tests). Only two things (from what we are testing) don't work: KDE Live doesn't boot and upgrade (from F22 Desktop) doesn't work (it works with minimal though). 2015-11-18 15:57 GMT+01:00 Matthew Miller

Re: building conflicting packages from a single spec

2015-11-18 Thread Pádraig Brady
On 18/11/15 03:31, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: >> "PB" == Pádraig Brady writes: > > PB> Is $subject possible? > > I don't think so, since at the end of %install you have exactly one set > of files in one buildroot. Right. There was talk of potential support for this

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2015-11-18)

2015-11-18 Thread Debarshi Ray
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCo (2015-11-18) === Meeting started by rishi` at 18:03:44 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-11-18/fesco.2015-11-18-18.03.log.html . Meeting summary

Re: Some analysis on the size of the minimal and Server installs of Fedora 23

2015-11-18 Thread Dan Williams
On Wed, 2015-11-18 at 11:32 -0600, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > > > > > > "DW" == Dan Williams writes: > > DW> I suppose NM-tui could be pulled out of Server since not that > many > DW> other things require newt, and nmcli is always going to be there > DW> anyway. > > For some

Re: Some analysis on the size of the minimal and Server installs of Fedora 23

2015-11-18 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/18/2015 01:43 PM, Dan Williams wrote: > On Wed, 2015-11-18 at 11:32 -0600, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: >>> "DW" == Dan Williams writes: >> >> DW> I suppose NM-tui could be pulled out of Server since not >> that many DW>

Re: On running gui applications as root

2015-11-18 Thread Adam Jackson
On Tue, 2015-11-17 at 17:30 +, Andrew Haley wrote: > On 11/02/2015 03:05 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: > > But, why take the risk exposure, when you could simply not? > > How else would I edit root-owned files?  I don't get it.  I mean, > I guess I could run an editor in a text window, but I don't

Re: Ivy packaging for EPEL7

2015-11-18 Thread Christopher
On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 11:26 AM Christopher wrote: > What's the best way to deal with resolving ivy dependencies in EPEL7? I'm > trying to package zookeeper for EPEL7, and am running into problems. > > I see there's ivy-local for F21 and later, which comes with xmvn

Re: Dealing with the "my packages" problem

2015-11-18 Thread Rob Crittenden
Matthew Miller wrote: > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 06:08:24PM -0600, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: >> After some IRC discussion I've come to the following proposal: that >> maintainers have some way to easily indicate how open they are to >> external contributions. Basically this would take the form

Re: ansible in Fedora 23+ (python3)

2015-11-18 Thread Bill Nottingham
Adam Williamson (adamw...@fedoraproject.org) said: > On Tue, 2015-10-13 at 22:21 -0400, Dusty Mabe wrote: > > > > Does anyone have a good solution for this? Obviously it would be nice > > if ansible went to python3 but I think they have stated clearly that > > they are sticking with python2 for

Re: On running gui applications as root

2015-11-18 Thread Adam Jackson
On Wed, 2015-11-18 at 11:53 -0800, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: > I don't understand.  If a user who has the right to act as root asks > to authorize a program to run as root on their behalf, we should grant > that request.  And, once we grant it, we shouldn't be > passive-aggressive and say "sure

Re: On running gui applications as root

2015-11-18 Thread Andrew Lutomirski
On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Adam Jackson wrote: > On Tue, 2015-11-17 at 17:30 +, Andrew Haley wrote: >> On 11/02/2015 03:05 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: >> > But, why take the risk exposure, when you could simply not? >> >> How else would I edit root-owned files? I don't

Re: ansible in Fedora 23+ (python3)

2015-11-18 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2015-11-18 at 14:36 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Adam Williamson (adamw...@fedoraproject.org) said: > > On Tue, 2015-10-13 at 22:21 -0400, Dusty Mabe wrote: > > > > > > Does anyone have a good solution for this? Obviously it would be nice > > > if ansible went to python3 but I think

Re: On running gui applications as root

2015-11-18 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2015-11-18 at 15:09 -0500, Adam Jackson wrote: > On Wed, 2015-11-18 at 11:53 -0800, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: > > > I don't understand.  If a user who has the right to act as root asks > > to authorize a program to run as root on their behalf, we should grant > > that request.  And, once

Re: On running gui applications as root

2015-11-18 Thread Andreas Tunek
2015-11-18 21:24 GMT+01:00 Adam Williamson : > On Wed, 2015-11-18 at 15:09 -0500, Adam Jackson wrote: >> On Wed, 2015-11-18 at 11:53 -0800, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: >> >> > I don't understand. If a user who has the right to act as root asks >> > to authorize a program

Re: On running gui applications as root

2015-11-18 Thread Andrew Lutomirski
On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2015-11-18 at 15:09 -0500, Adam Jackson wrote: >> On Wed, 2015-11-18 at 11:53 -0800, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: >> >> > I don't understand. If a user who has the right to act as root asks >> > to

Re: ansible in Fedora 23+ (python3)

2015-11-18 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/18/2015 03:21 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2015-11-18 at 14:36 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: >> Adam Williamson (adamw...@fedoraproject.org) said: >>> On Tue, 2015-10-13 at 22:21 -0400, Dusty Mabe wrote: Does anyone have a

Fedora Rawhide 20151118 compose check report

2015-11-18 Thread Fedora compose checker
Missing expected images: Cloud disk raw i386 Cloud_atomic disk raw x86_64 Workstation live x86_64 Workstation live i386 Minimal disk raw armhfp Kde disk raw armhfp Kde live i386 Cloud disk raw x86_64 Images in this compose but not Rawhide 20151117: Games live i386 Images in Rawhide 20151117

Re: Lua 5.2

2015-11-18 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Wednesday, 18 November 2015 at 08:06, Germano Massullo wrote: > Hi, I would like to ask "lua" and "compat-lua" maintainers if it is > possible to have a packaged 5.2 lua version. > A use case? Upstream Darktable ships a bundled Lua version 5.2, and it is > not compatible with Lua 5.3. Fedora's

rawhide report: 20151118 changes

2015-11-18 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Compose started at Wed Nov 18 05:15:03 UTC 2015 Broken deps for i386 -- [IQmol] IQmol-2.3.0-9.fc24.i686 requires libboost_serialization.so.1.58.0 IQmol-2.3.0-9.fc24.i686 requires libboost_iostreams.so.1.58.0

Re: Dealing with the "my packages" problem

2015-11-18 Thread Haïkel
2015-11-18 1:08 GMT+01:00 Jason L Tibbitts III : > tl; dr: I have submitted the following RFE for pkgdb: > https://github.com/fedora-infra/pkgdb2/issues/274 > Please add comments there if you have any. > > I know I'm not the only provenpackager to have applied a bugfix to >

Re: Some analysis on the size of the minimal and Server installs of Fedora 23

2015-11-18 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 17.11.2015 v 11:00 Stef Walter napsal(a): > On 17.11.2015 02:39, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> (Please keep responses on the devel@ list; I've set it in the Reply-To.) >> >> To jump right to the premise: The default Fedora Server install is Way >> Too Big(TM) and the minimal install (also

Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2015-11-18)

2015-11-18 Thread Debarshi Ray
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Wednesday at 18:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2015-11-18 18:00 UTC' Links to all tickets

Re: On running gui applications as root

2015-11-18 Thread Kamil Paral
> Hi, > > > It's certainly the case that *gnome* might do something ridiculous if > > you 'sudo gedit' something, but 'sudo emacs' really ought to be > > equally acceptable regardless of whether you're using the terminal or > > X frontend. > emacs is probably okay, just by virtue of the fact that

Re: FedRTC.org SIP and XMPP service - help needed

2015-11-18 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 17/11/15 22:57, Nikos Roussos wrote: > On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> Fedora Talk was based on Asterisk. >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Asterisk Asterisk has >> lots of great features (voicemail, queues, etc) but it is mainly

Re: Some analysis on the size of the minimal and Server installs of Fedora 23

2015-11-18 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/17/2015 06:17 PM, Dan Williams wrote: > On Mon, 2015-11-16 at 20:39 -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> b'NetworkManager': 138 > > NM does have a larger dep-chain than we'd like, however we did > split the package apart a couple releases ago and

Re: Some analysis on the size of the minimal and Server installs of Fedora 23

2015-11-18 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 17.11.2015 v 02:39 Stephen Gallagher napsal(a): > b'dnf-plugins-core': 117 Nice to have, however Minimal installation can live without it. > b'plymouth-scripts': 121 > b'plymouth': 121 This really does not need to be on minimal installation. And you can save a lot of data if you purge

Re: DNF is completly unable to act with local packages

2015-11-18 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 9:48 AM, Panu Matilainen wrote: > > Right. Only took eight years for anybody to notice ;) > > - Panu - > At this point, I'm wondering why we don't use the ~/+ operators to more explicitly declare the ordering of versions like Debian does.

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 24 Rawhide 20151117 nightly compose nominated for testing

2015-11-18 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 07:38:43PM -0800, adamw...@fedoraproject.org wrote: > for Fedora 24 Rawhide 20151117. Please help run some tests for this > nightly compose if you have time. For more information on nightly > release validation testing, see: >

Re: DNF is completly unable to act with local packages

2015-11-18 Thread Stanislav Ochotnicky
On Sat 07 Nov 2015 10:18:14 AM EST Panu Matilainen wrote: > Frankly I didn't even realize the 0.rc1.X scheme was against the > guidelines since to me this is the (obviously) correct way to do it with > predictable pre-release names (its predictable when you're the one

Re: Some analysis on the size of the minimal and Server installs of Fedora 23

2015-11-18 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 9:30 AM, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > Dne 17.11.2015 v 02:39 Stephen Gallagher napsal(a): >> b'dnf-plugins-core': 117 > Nice to have, however Minimal installation can live without it. > >> b'plymouth-scripts': 121 >> b'plymouth': 121 > This really does not

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2015-11-18)

2015-11-18 Thread Irina Boverman
Please add https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1498 for today's agenda. Regards, Irina. - Original Message - From: "Debarshi Ray" To: "Fedora Development" Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 7:31:59 AM Subject: Schedule for Wednesday's

Re: DNF is completly unable to act with local packages

2015-11-18 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 11/18/2015 04:15 PM, Stanislav Ochotnicky wrote: On Sat 07 Nov 2015 10:18:14 AM EST Panu Matilainen wrote: Frankly I didn't even realize the 0.rc1.X scheme was against the guidelines since to me this is the (obviously) correct way to do it with predictable

Re: Dealing with the "my packages" problem

2015-11-18 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 06:08:24PM -0600, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > After some IRC discussion I've come to the following proposal: that > maintainers have some way to easily indicate how open they are to > external contributions. Basically this would take the form of a few > options in pkgdb

Re: DNF is completly unable to act with local packages

2015-11-18 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 18.11.2015 v 15:53 Neal Gompa napsal(a): > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 9:48 AM, Panu Matilainen > wrote: >> Right. Only took eight years for anybody to notice ;) >> >> - Panu - >> > At this point, I'm wondering why we don't use the ~/+ operators to > more

Re: ansible in Fedora 23+ (python3)

2015-11-18 Thread Bill Nottingham
Adam Williamson (adamw...@fedoraproject.org) said: > > You really really want libselinux-python(2) for that as well - it's needed > > for any file/copy/templating you'd do on the node to ensure proper SELinux > > contexts. (In fact, Ansible will abort on the node without it if it detects > >

Re: Some analysis on the size of the minimal and Server installs of Fedora 23

2015-11-18 Thread Pádraig Brady
On 17/11/15 17:03, Pádraig Brady wrote: > On 17/11/15 01:39, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> (Please keep responses on the devel@ list; I've set it in the Reply-To.) >> >> To jump right to the premise: The default Fedora Server install is Way >> Too Big(TM) and the minimal install (also available on

Re: Some analysis on the size of the minimal and Server installs of Fedora 23

2015-11-18 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 10:15:58PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 02:01:56PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > Is there any progress on > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Glibc_locale_subpackaging > > I think it's this BZ: > >

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Systemd file triggers

2015-11-18 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 05:06:48PM -0600, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > > "JK" == Jan Kurik writes: > > JK> * Update the macros provided by systemd and add appropriate file > JK> triggers. > > This is great, but FPC is working on file trigger stuff so please do try >

Re: DNF is completly unable to act with local packages

2015-11-18 Thread Kevin Kofler
Neal Gompa wrote: > Done[1]. This is just getting dumb and we need something simpler. I > can't even figure out how to do pre-release/post-release anymore... +1. I added a comment to the FPC ticket as well. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: On running gui applications as root

2015-11-18 Thread Ian Malone
On 18 November 2015 at 20:24, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2015-11-18 at 15:09 -0500, Adam Jackson wrote: >> On Wed, 2015-11-18 at 11:53 -0800, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: >> >> > I don't understand. If a user who has the right to act as root asks >> > to authorize a

Re: building conflicting packages from a single spec

2015-11-18 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 04:34:16PM +, Pádraig Brady wrote: > On 18/11/15 03:31, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > >> "PB" == Pádraig Brady writes: > > > > PB> Is $subject possible? > > > > I don't think so, since at the end of %install you have exactly one set > > of

Re: Dealing with the "my packages" problem

2015-11-18 Thread Rob Crittenden
David Airlie wrote: > > > - Original Message - >> From: "Brian C. Lane" >> To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org >> Sent: Thursday, 19 November, 2015 7:05:57 AM >> Subject: Re: Dealing with the "my packages" problem >> >> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 02:24:37PM -0500, Rob

Re: On running gui applications as root

2015-11-18 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 19.11.2015 um 01:00 schrieb Reindl Harald: Am 19.11.2015 um 00:57 schrieb Ian Malone: On 18 November 2015 at 23:38, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 18.11.2015 um 19:49 schrieb Adam Jackson: That's kind of a non sequitur. To a first order, there are zero root- owned

Slight change to the review process for new contributors

2015-11-18 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
After FESCo approval of https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1499 I have modified the review process document: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_Review_Process to indicate that any packager is welcome to complete the initial package review(s) for a new contributor. Contributors still need

Re: Packaging:NamingGuidelines Re: DNF is completly unable to act with local packages

2015-11-18 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "SB" == Sérgio Basto writes: SB> When we fix the .spec and don't change the source, we bump rightmost SB> version, when we change the source, we bump the left version, so we SB> can distinguish when we update the source and when we updated the SB> .spec, this contrast

Re: On running gui applications as root

2015-11-18 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 18.11.2015 um 19:49 schrieb Adam Jackson: On Tue, 2015-11-17 at 17:30 +, Andrew Haley wrote: On 11/02/2015 03:05 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: But, why take the risk exposure, when you could simply not? How else would I edit root-owned files? I don't get it. I mean, I guess I could run

Re: building conflicting packages from a single spec

2015-11-18 Thread Pádraig Brady
On 18/11/15 22:34, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 04:34:16PM +, Pádraig Brady wrote: >> On 18/11/15 03:31, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: "PB" == Pádraig Brady writes: >>> >>> PB> Is $subject possible? >>> >>> I don't think so, since at the end

Re: Some analysis on the size of the minimal and Server installs of Fedora 23

2015-11-18 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 02:01:56PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > Is there any progress on > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Glibc_locale_subpackaging I think it's this BZ: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=156477 in which case it looks like it's done (I didn't

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Systemd file triggers

2015-11-18 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "JK" == Jan Kurik writes: JK> * Update the macros provided by systemd and add appropriate file JK> triggers. This is great, but FPC is working on file trigger stuff so please do try and coordinate. We weren't planning on pushing any of this through the feature

Re: On running gui applications as root

2015-11-18 Thread Ian Malone
On 18 November 2015 at 23:38, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 18.11.2015 um 19:49 schrieb Adam Jackson: >> >> On Tue, 2015-11-17 at 17:30 +, Andrew Haley wrote: >>> >>> On 11/02/2015 03:05 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: But, why take the risk exposure, when you could

Re: Some analysis on the size of the minimal and Server installs of Fedora 23

2015-11-18 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "JLT" == Jason L Tibbitts writes: JLT> On my custom install (which just lists the packages I need in my JLT> kickstart file) I have: JLT> NetworkManager-glib-1.0.6-8.fc22.x86_64 JLT> NetworkManager-1.0.6-8.fc22.x86_64 JLT> NetworkManager-libnm-1.0.6-8.fc22.x86_64 JLT>

Re: On running gui applications as root

2015-11-18 Thread Ian Malone
On 18 November 2015 at 20:09, Adam Jackson wrote: > On Wed, 2015-11-18 at 11:53 -0800, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: > >> I don't understand. If a user who has the right to act as root asks >> to authorize a program to run as root on their behalf, we should grant >> that request.

Re: On running gui applications as root

2015-11-18 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 18.11.2015 um 21:09 schrieb Adam Jackson: On Wed, 2015-11-18 at 11:53 -0800, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: I don't understand. If a user who has the right to act as root asks to authorize a program to run as root on their behalf, we should grant that request. And, once we grant it, we

Re: On running gui applications as root

2015-11-18 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 19.11.2015 um 00:57 schrieb Ian Malone: On 18 November 2015 at 23:38, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 18.11.2015 um 19:49 schrieb Adam Jackson: On Tue, 2015-11-17 at 17:30 +, Andrew Haley wrote: On 11/02/2015 03:05 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: But, why take the risk

Re: ansible in Fedora 23+ (python3)

2015-11-18 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2015-11-18 at 17:19 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Adam Williamson (adamw...@fedoraproject.org) said: > > > You really really want libselinux-python(2) for that as well - it's needed > > > for any file/copy/templating you'd do on the node to ensure proper SELinux > > > contexts. (In

Re: How to remove old source file?

2015-11-18 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Mon, 16 Nov, 2015 at 00:42:10 GMT, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Till Maas wrote: >> It also breaks git clean which is used to clean files. What is the >> reason that making .gitignore append-only would be useful btw? > > If I don't bother cleaning away the old tarballs, I don't want them to show > up

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Systemd file triggers

2015-11-18 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "ZJ" == Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek writes: ZJ> Sure I'm happy to coordinate. I wrote up the Change page because of ZJ> the potential for breakage (as with anything systemd related) and ZJ> the need for a mass rebuild for the change to take effect. I'm not entirely sure

Re: Dealing with the "my packages" problem

2015-11-18 Thread David Airlie
- Original Message - > From: "Brian C. Lane" > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Sent: Thursday, 19 November, 2015 7:05:57 AM > Subject: Re: Dealing with the "my packages" problem > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 02:24:37PM -0500, Rob Crittenden wrote: > > Matthew Miller

Re: Dealing with the "my packages" problem

2015-11-18 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "BCL" == Brian C Lane writes: BCL> I don't think we need a technical solution, we just need the people BCL> who feel the need to modify packages they aren't normally involved BCL> with to ask first. It doesn't matter how simple or complicated the BCL> change is, just be

Re: On running gui applications as root

2015-11-18 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 03:09:34PM -0500, Adam Jackson wrote: > To the bug in question: probably we should make it so 'sudo gedit' does > work, but I'd still strongly discourage anyone from actually doing so. Actually, there's a better way. The authors of sudo already considered this. Set

rs6000-cpus.def not found in PowerPC builds on F22+

2015-11-18 Thread Dave Johansen
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1256839 I don't have access to PowerPC hardware, so can anyone give any advice on how to fix the above issue? Thanks, Dave -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct:

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Systemd package split

2015-11-18 Thread Jan Kurik
On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 9:07 PM, Brian C. Lane wrote: > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 05:32:02PM +0100, Jan Kurik wrote: >> = Proposed System Wide Change: Systemd package split = >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/systemd_package_split >> >> Change owner(s): >> Zbigniew

Re: rs6000-cpus.def not found in PowerPC builds on F22+

2015-11-18 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 3:14 AM, Dave Johansen wrote: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1256839 > I don't have access to PowerPC hardware, so can anyone give any advice on > how to fix the above issue? Not sure that rs6000 would be supported on ppc64le but

Re: rs6000-cpus.def not found in PowerPC builds on F22+

2015-11-18 Thread Dan Horák
On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 07:04:30 + Peter Robinson wrote: > On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 3:14 AM, Dave Johansen > wrote: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1256839 > > I don't have access to PowerPC hardware, so can anyone give any > > advice

Re: Slight change to the review process for new contributors

2015-11-18 Thread Jan Pokorný
On 18/11/15 15:55 -0600, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > After FESCo approval of https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1499 I > have modified the review process document: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_Review_Process > to indicate that any packager is welcome to complete the initial

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Systemd package split

2015-11-18 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 1:06 AM, Jan Kurik wrote: > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 9:07 PM, Brian C. Lane wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 05:32:02PM +0100, Jan Kurik wrote: > >> = Proposed System Wide Change: Systemd package split = > >>

Re: Dealing with the "my packages" problem

2015-11-18 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2015-11-18 at 10:04 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 06:08:24PM -0600, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > > After some IRC discussion I've come to the following proposal: that > > maintainers have some way to easily indicate how open they are to > > external contributions. 

Review swaps

2015-11-18 Thread Jens Lody
I have these reviews for exchange: 1. gnome-shell-extension-panel-osd: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bu g.cgi?id=1246904 a small extension, that makes the placement of shell-notifications on the desktop configurable. 2. aeskulap: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1269649 a

Re: Dealing with the "my packages" problem

2015-11-18 Thread Brian C. Lane
On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 02:24:37PM -0500, Rob Crittenden wrote: > Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 06:08:24PM -0600, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > >> After some IRC discussion I've come to the following proposal: that > >> maintainers have some way to easily indicate how open they

Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2015-11-19 16:00 UTC)

2015-11-18 Thread James Antill
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2015-11-19 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. Local time information (via. rktime): 2015-11-19 09:00 Thu US/Pacific PST 2015-11-19 12:00 Thu US/Eastern EST 2015-11-19

Re: [Fedora-packaging] Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2015-11-19 17:00 UTC)

2015-11-18 Thread James Antill
Yet again, I failed to fix the UTC time in the Subject, hopefully by next week I'll remember. To confirm, it is 17:00 UTC ... automatic rktime output is always more reliable than james UTC time :). On Wed, 2015-11-18 at 16:19 -0500, James Antill wrote: > Following is the list of topics that

Re: Dealing with the "my packages" problem

2015-11-18 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Nov 18, 2015 14:06, "Brian C. Lane" wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 02:24:37PM -0500, Rob Crittenden wrote: > > Matthew Miller wrote: > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 06:08:24PM -0600, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > > >> After some IRC discussion I've come to the following

Re: [Fedora-packaging] Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2015-11-19 16:00 UTC)

2015-11-18 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
I will be at the regional FBI headquarters attending a conference. While I had thought that I would be able to pull out my laptop and participate, I've now found out that they're so paranoid that I can't even wear my watch inside of the building, much less have a laptop with connectivity. I have

ppisar pushed to perl-Config-Perl-V (master). "0.25 bump"

2015-11-18 Thread notifications
>From 9a47e601ce05b2954400b6a51b6cec5bc491f48f Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: =?UTF-8?q?Petr=20P=C3=ADsa=C5=99?= Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2015 16:28:29 +0100 Subject: 0.25 bump --- .gitignore | 1 + perl-Config-Perl-V.spec | 9 ++--- sources | 2 +-

[Bug 1283169] perl-Config-Perl-V-0.25 is available

2015-11-18 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1283169 Petr Pisar changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|MODIFIED Fixed In

corsepiu pushed to perl-Starlet (f23). "Cleanup merger."

2015-11-18 Thread notifications
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corsepiu pushed to perl-Starlet (f23). "Upstream update. (..more)"

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corsepiu pushed to perl-Starlet (f23). "Upstream update."

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corsepiu pushed to perl-Starlet (f22). "Upstream update. (..more)"

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corsepiu pushed to perl-Starlet (f22). "Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/f23' into f22"

2015-11-18 Thread notifications
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[Bug 1271121] Upgrade perl-Starlet to 0.26

2015-11-18 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1271121 --- Comment #3 from Fedora Update System --- perl-Starlet-0.28-1.fc22 has been submitted as an update to Fedora 22. https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2015-7e49eb0826 -- You are receiving this mail

corsepiu pushed to perl-Starlet (f22). "Upstream update."

2015-11-18 Thread notifications
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corsepiu pushed to perl-Starlet (f22). "Cleanup merger."

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F24 System Wide Change: Systemd file triggers

2015-11-18 Thread Jan Kurik
= Proposed System Wide Change: Systemd file triggers = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/systemd_file_triggers Change owner(s): Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek systemd daemon-reload is invoked once or twice per rpm transaction. == Detailed Description == Instead of having every package which

[Bug 1271121] Upgrade perl-Starlet to 0.26

2015-11-18 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1271121 Fedora Update System changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW

ppisar uploaded Config-Perl-V-0.25.tgz for perl-Config-Perl-V

2015-11-18 Thread notifications
d30122ab66576cbc5dd6387688c0714e Config-Perl-V-0.25.tgz http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/lookaside/pkgs/perl-Config-Perl-V/Config-Perl-V-0.25.tgz/md5/d30122ab66576cbc5dd6387688c0714e/Config-Perl-V-0.25.tgz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl

[Bug 1282842] perl-Test-PostgreSQL: please add epel7 branch

2015-11-18 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1282842 Petr Pisar changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |ASSIGNED --- Comment

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