One thing to watch out for is /var/empty. I have had to manually recreate
/var/empty and /var/empty/sshd to get the server to work again. This
might be related to the recent rpm issue, but I am not sure about that.
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On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 20:46:25 +0200,
drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote:
The proper fix would have been to just use epoch. People can call them
evil all they want they are perfectly suitable for that kind of
problems.
Or just rebuild the old version again. (Which should work unless
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 11:11:34 -0500,
Richard Shaw hobbes1...@gmail.com wrote:
This is my first time to get a message like this. Do I need to do
anything yet or is this a branching issue that will likely resolve
itself?
I suspect it is something related to the first build of F16. I got
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 16:02:08 -0600,
Pete Zaitcev zait...@redhat.com wrote:
On Sat, 20 Aug 2011 11:31:55 -0700
John Reiser jrei...@bitwagon.com wrote:
How much memory will anaconda require to install Fedora 16?
Anaconda requires 768MB, and more (=1GB) if there is no swap
On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 17:50:21 +0200,
Joachim Backes joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de wrote:
Hi,
since days it's not possible to update my F16 system fully (a lot of
updates are refused because of dependency problems [see BZ 731617]).
Anybody knows if the problem will be solved?
I think
On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:41:43 -0600,
Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote:
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 15:36:14 +
Branched Report rawh...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Compose started at Mon Aug 22 13:15:30 UTC 2011
The repodiff/spam-o-matic failed here, but the compose did finish as
far as I
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 03:33:04 +0200,
Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote:
No, it means that (unless this was recently fixed) you have to modprobe it
manually (e.g. from rc.local) because nothing bothers trying to modprobe it
for you anymore. IMHO, this is really broken, but the
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 13:41:57 +0100,
Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote:
ACPI turned out to be full of lies. The real problem is that machines
will report a floppy controller even if they have no floppy drives
attached, and the ACPI function that's supposed to return a list of
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 14:26:39 +0100,
Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote:
Or just add floppy-support and analog-joystick-support packages that
include appropriate modprobe.conf fragments, and have documentation that
instructs the user to install them.
To make this more precise,
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 14:37:16 +0100,
Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote:
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 08:09:51AM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 14:26:39 +0100,
Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote:
Or just add floppy-support and analog-joystick
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 14:50:10 +0100,
Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote:
On 30/08/11 14:23, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
I'll need to test it. Right now I use explicit modprobe commands in
rc.local, which isn't good for packages. I looked at modprobe.conf
documentation and it doesn't seem
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 13:33:06 -0700,
Jeremiah Summers jmiah...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes Literally I did, but as Adam just pointed out running Live just
dumps the squashfs image to the drive and slaps grud on it. I'm not
It actually dumps the ext4 image on the drive and then resizes it to
fit
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 15:22:21 -0700,
John Reiser jrei...@bitwagon.com wrote:
It would be nice to get rid of the embedded ext4 image now that squashfs
supports special files and extended attributes (needed for selinuix labels),
but there are some other roadblocks that will block that
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 15:22:21 -0700,
John Reiser jrei...@bitwagon.com wrote:
It would be nice to get rid of the embedded ext4 image now that squashfs
supports special files and extended attributes (needed for selinuix labels),
but there are some other roadblocks that will block that
%{_libdir}/modules-load.d
echo floppy $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_libdir}/modules-load.d/floppy.conf
%files
%{_libdir}/modules-load.d/floppy.conf
%post
/sbin/modprobe floppy
%changelog
* Tue Aug 30 2011 Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to 1.0-1
- Initial package creation
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On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 11:58:41 +0200,
Jakub Jelinek ja...@redhat.com wrote:
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 10:41:45PM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
%install
rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
mkdir -p $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_libdir}/modules-load.d
echo floppy $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_libdir}/modules-load.d
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 22:41:45 -0500,
Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote:
Below is a proposed specfile for the floppy case. (Analog joystick would be
very similar.) I haven't tested the package for functionality yet, but did
test it with rpmbuild and rpmlint. Is this what we want
On Fri, Sep 02, 2011 at 09:27:12 -0600,
Jonathan Corbet corbet...@lwn.net wrote:
Nobody else has griped on the Rawhide front, but, then, I think I may be
about the only Rawhide user left (and people keep telling me that I
shouldn't be there either). If it's only me I'll figure out how to
I have submitted a review request for floppy-support:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=735554
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On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 14:59:00 +0200,
Michel Alexandre Salim sali...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Dear all,
The following packages are affected by the libgee API change in
Rawhide (from 0.6.1 / gee-1.0.pc to 0.7.0 / gee-0.8.pc). Of the two
packages I randomly tested (rygel and pino), merely
On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 09:43:27 +0100,
Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote:
On 11/09/11 09:33, Jim Meyering wrote:
darrell pfeifer wrote:
Fails for me too, with the same error.
Thanks for confirming that.
I don't mean to be rude or inflammatory, but do have to wonder how such
On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 11:13:03 +0200,
Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
2011/7/2 Tom Lane t...@redhat.com:
=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Micha=B3_Piotrowski?= mkkp...@gmail.com writes:
Are there any plans to provide PostgreSQL 9.1 in Fedora 16? PostgreSQL
9.1 is in beta2 now and it's
On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 11:27:53 -0400,
Tom Lane t...@redhat.com wrote:
Yeah. I have done test packaging of 9.1rc1 already, so it's pretty much
ready to go on my end. I would be prepared to push 9.1 into f16 on
Monday if there were enough people willing to test and up-karma it
before the
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 09:57:34 -0600,
Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com wrote:
In reading the long trash each other fest that accompanies pre-release
jitters, could we start on a cleaner plate? What do the people who are
using rawhide day-in/day-out expect out of the channel? What level
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 03:16:47 -0400,
Tom Lane t...@redhat.com wrote:
OK, it's built and filed at
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/postgresql-9.1.0-1.fc16
One thing I noticed is that service postgresql initdb and
service postgresql help no longer work. I was hoping they'd redirect
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 22:55:21 -0400,
Tom Lane t...@redhat.com wrote:
(This isn't new with 9.1, btw --- the last version or so of 9.0
for F16 was the same, since we switched over to native systemd
files.)
I don't remember what I did for 9.0. I either found that stuff or I did
a dump and
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 16:03:38 -0400,
Josh Boyer jwbo...@gmail.com wrote:
Try the 3.1-rc6 kernel sitting in bodhi waiting to be pushed to f16 stable.
While I don't have hard numbers running that kernel seems to help. My rawhide
system was so slow that I rebuilt that kernel (though probably I
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 13:46:40 -0700,
Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
They weren't; see my numbers in the related bug
(https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=735268 ). The debug
overhead appears to have gotten much heavier in 3.1.
I added myself to that bug, though I
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 14:16:16 -0700,
Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
The 'fix' for the F16 kernel is simply that, with the rc6 build,
debugging has been disabled. debugging is never disabled in Rawhide
kernels, so if debugging overhead is your problem, no Rawhide kernel is
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 17:28:10 -0400,
Dave Jones da...@redhat.com wrote:
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 03:59:02PM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
I think the degree of slow down now, compared with the past, makes this
issue a bug. If things are like they are now, I won't be running debug
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 15:01:06 +0200,
Nils Philippsen n...@redhat.com wrote:
I'd like to see a discussion about how we can ensure -- within
reasonable limits -- that e.g. bumping a library's SONAME is followed by
dependent components being rebuilt and included with the providing
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:18:18 -0700,
Jesse Keating jkeat...@j2solutions.net wrote:
One change to make this better might be to move the inheritance point to
updates-testing so that things built from the fresh branch are immediately
inherited into rawhide.
I think this would be a change
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 01:08:56 +0300,
Kalev Lember kalevlem...@gmail.com wrote:
As it is right now, it is somewhat difficult to get off the rawhide
track and to continue on Branched. For example, if a person that's
yum downgrade works pretty reasonably if you haven't moved too far past.
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 14:01:10 +0200,
Nils Philippsen n...@redhat.com wrote:
It's unclear to me why this would need to be the case. Creating a build
root for what we perceive as Rawhide should be just the same as
Chain building is allowed for rawhide to help get groups of packages
built.
I was hoping to be able to work on a forked version of chess and have it
replace chess in Fedora, but I haven't had time to learn enough about
ogre to do this, and chess is broken enough now that there is no point
in including it any more. So I am looking at retiring it in f16+.
The current
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 12:39:46 -0600,
Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 06:47, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote:
I was hoping to be able to work on a forked version of chess and have it
replace chess in Fedora, but I haven't had time to learn enough
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 11:49:15 -0400,
Jesse Keating jkeat...@j2solutions.net wrote:
Yeah, for some reason it's not seeing the python-gitdb I built up. Odd
because I swore I tested this with the nose tests in GitPython. Oh well,
my fault for building something on a Friday. Doubly my
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 07:47:12 -0500,
Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote:
Unless someone speaks up, with some plan to make the current version work
in the near future, I'll start the retirement process in about a week.
Chess has now been retired (pending processing by releng
As you can see, suspending is the right thing to do.
1) Not for servers
2) This is todays hardware and with every generation the gap is getting
smaller
between dyn pm savings and suspend savings.
It looks like it also might not be for systems that have encrypted swap.
I think I started
On Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 15:36:27 -0400,
Dave Jones da...@redhat.com wrote:
So we're thinking of trying this again this thursday with a focus on 16,
(but triage work on older releases is welcomed too).
I have a bug (36242 at the unavailable kernel bugzilla and 684424 in Fedora)
where sound
On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 10:38:18 -0400,
Dave Jones da...@redhat.com wrote:
The kernel-debug rpm should have everything you'd need.
But I can't get the system to crash to get a traceback. It just hangs.
I tried using the sysrq commands and NMI timeouts and I haven't been able
to get a dump or
On Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 12:00:36 -0400,
Simo Sorce s...@redhat.com wrote:
My main use case here is video projectors, and in that case there is no
way on earth you'll ever know the DPI as it depends on the distance from
the wall, and again even if you knew the distance from the wall you'd
On Sat, Oct 08, 2011 at 18:30:44 +0800,
Américo Wang xiyou.wangc...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 12:14 AM, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote:
On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 10:38:18 -0400,
Dave Jones da...@redhat.com wrote:
The kernel-debug rpm should have everything you'd need
Is it just an oversight that an 8.3 build of grubby wasn't done for rawhide?
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On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 00:32:55 -0700,
Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
Actually booting should still work, as grub will still be in the MBR.
But to be 'supported' you should switch to grub2, yes.
Also grub is still in /boot. Those files are copied in by grub-install and
aren't
On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 11:14:29 -0700,
darrell pfeifer darrel...@gmail.com wrote:
How does grubby decide which boot loader is running?
It appears to do both.
I have a system upgraded from grub to grub2. I've yum erased grub and
grub-efi. I also move/renamed /boot/grub elsewhere.
Is that
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 08:34:58 -0500,
Richard Shaw hobbes1...@gmail.com wrote:
Out of curiosity I decided to see if I could package zfs from
http://zfsonlinux.org/. One thing I noticed is that there are both
udev rules in /lib/udev/rules.d and /etc/udev/rules.d and I could not
find any
I want to try to modprobe netconsole during boot, but it needs to happen
after the network is up. Is there any standard place (rc.local and
modules-load seem to happen too early) to do this?
I filed https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=746481 against systemd,
but it has been closed
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 16:07:54 +0200,
Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote:
In fact, a package that installs rules files in /etc is almost
definitely doing it wrong, and should be fixed.
On that note I have filed bug 744230 against apmd which tries to package
a config file in
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 12:36:36 -0700,
Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
You get to pick your breakage. If glibc maintainers would kindly stop
pulling random git snapshots into a pending stable release that would be
nice, but then, I'd also like a solid gold toilet and that
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 19:10:04 +0200,
Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote:
So, while my first response to this would be the suggestion to improve
the sw in question to make it more robust to today's dynamic networking
I do acknowledge that this is not always feasible. So
here's
On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 15:56:49 -0700,
Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
I'd certainly second Robyn's thanks to all the awesome folks on the
devel, releng and QA teams who worked so hard to get this thing done and
shiny without slipping any further. We bent process a little to
On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 23:09:12 -0700,
Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
On Fri, 2011-11-04 at 03:42 +, Bojan Smojver wrote:
But based on what they've said in the past, I expect that once most
hardware that previously needed the fallback mode is covered, fallback
mode will
On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 14:58:47 +0100,
Ilyes Gouta ilyes.go...@gmail.com wrote:
One nice outcome is that we could end up with an optimized reference
s/w renderer (and kernel/user land stack) for all platforms. Which is
cool! :)
The other graphics related improvement looking possible for
On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 23:17:21 -0700,
Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
It'd be great if we can work with the anaconda team closely to try and
get involved all along the line in the UI rewrite stuff, and see if that
can reduce the pressure around release times - let's put that on
On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 08:16:57 -0700,
Robyn Bergeron rberg...@redhat.com wrote:
Full information about the elections, including the elections schedule,
and links to where one may nominate, can be seen here:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections
This misses an important link. FESCO
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 12:38:16 -0800,
Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com wrote:
nod -- Although others have pointed out how to use git log and git
cherry-pick to achieve that... I find it faster to use git merge and just
remove the empty conflicts markers if I encounter this situation.
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 16:15:05 +,
Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote:
Something that was brought up at the last fesco meeting is that
fesco membership is currently restricted to members of the packaging
group. That's arguably overly restrictive - fesco is intended to be the
It looks like there was a soname bump in boost yesterday. Boost affects
enough stuff, that there really should have been a heads up message posted to
the devel list about this.
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On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 08:05:34 -0600,
Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote:
It looks like there was a soname bump in boost yesterday. Boost affects
enough stuff, that there really should have been a heads up message posted to
the devel list about this.
It looks like there may have been
Is there any expected semantic change for using BOOST_FOREACH?
I am having trouble rebuilding Wesnoth and get an error:
foreach.hpp:6:17: error: 'boost::BOOST_FOREACH' has not been declared
and foreach.hpp is:
#ifndef FOREACH_HPP
#define FOREACH_HPP
#include boost/foreach.hpp
#define foreach
On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 18:13:14 +0100,
Denis Arnaud denis.arnaud_fed...@m4x.org wrote:
2011/11/20 Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to
Is there any expected semantic change for using BOOST_FOREACH?
I am having trouble rebuilding Wesnoth and get an error:
foreach.hpp:6:17: error: 'boost
On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 11:16:32 -0600,
Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote:
I don't think it is directly related. It is odd that the include is getting
flagged rather than an actual use. That could be a boost - gcc interaction.
I noticed that adding some extra includes that were used
I talked to some of the active Wesnoth developers and they told me it (the
BOOST_FOREACH problem affecting Wesnoth) is an upstream bug with a fix already.
Can we get this fix cherry picked for rawhide?
See the upstream ticket:
https://svn.boost.org/trac/boost/ticket/6131
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On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 10:32:06 -0800,
Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
That's about all the concrete thoughts / suggestions I can filter out of
the log.
I don't remember which meeting I noted it at, but another idea is to
weight proventester feedback higher (maybe count as +2 or
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 22:22:56 +,
\Jóhann B. Guðmundsson\ johan...@gmail.com wrote:
Well comes logically to me that at least the maintainer would be
stripped of those packages he is ignoring.
That doesn't help. It is reasonable to orphan a package that isn't being
adequately
I picked up gdk-pixbuf because freetennis supposedly depended on it but
actually doesn't. (Though freetennis if also FTBFS for another reason so
clearing the dependency isn't simple.) Though only thing that really
depends on it is xosd-xmms and I have checked with Kevin about that and
he will
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 12:38:23 +,
\Jóhann B. Guðmundsson\ johan...@gmail.com wrote:
I think the only way to achieve something like this for maintainership
we need to drop the ownership module so either nobody owns a
package/component in the project or relevant SIG owns the package.
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 23:38:14 +0100,
Lars Seipel lars.sei...@googlemail.com wrote:
Hi there,
is it possible to update rawhide's xcb-util to the current version which was
released earlier this year?
Normally the way to request this it to file a bug against the package.
Have you already
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 08:26:48 -0500,
Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't want to change my ssh key that I use for many other purposes. What
is
the suggested method to generate a new key to be used only for fedora?
Smooge did a detailed post on how to do this shortly after
On Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 17:44:12 +,
Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:
Go for it, I think it makes sense. For those that don't support 1.5
they can stay against the compat in the mean time.
Based on the sample I worked with, most of the ones with failed builds
are likely to be
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 09:51:05 -0400,
Daniel J Walsh dwa...@redhat.com wrote:
I decided to respond to these emails about Google Applications in a blog
entry
The link to Drepper's stuff should be:
http://people.redhat.com/drepper/selinux-mem.html
Your link has a ~ and a trailing space.
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On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 14:25:46 -0700,
John Poelstra poels...@redhat.com wrote:
617115 :: ON_QA :: livecd-tools :: David Huff :: rawhide live spins
showing black screen instead of syslinux boot menu ::
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=617115
Just in case David sees this, this
I was unable to find a fingerprint for pkgs.fedoraproject.org. Since the
risk is low, I'll start doing work and check it retroactively.
I think there should be some comment in the documentation about what the
project expects maintainers to do with regard to using it to avoid
man in the middle
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 21:07:08 -0500,
Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote:
I was unable to find a fingerprint for pkgs.fedoraproject.org. Since the
risk is low, I'll start doing work and check it retroactively.
I think there should be some comment in the documentation about what
I noticed that the f14 repo from the kernel mirror seems to have only
things that are tagged dist-f14 and no inherited stuff. (Note that
while there is kitutuki-0.9.9c-1.fc13.i686.rpm, it's tagged both
dist-f13 and dist-f14.)
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On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 22:24:59 -0500,
Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote:
I noticed that the f14 repo from the kernel mirror seems to have only
things that are tagged dist-f14 and no inherited stuff. (Note that
while there is kitutuki-0.9.9c-1.fc13.i686.rpm, it's tagged both
dist-f13
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 22:39:08 -0500,
Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote:
Probably related to this I got some broken package dependency warnings emailed
to me that seem to be for things that weren't rebuilt for F14. Is it safe
to ignore this batch of warnings?
I see this got answered
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 12:45:13 +0200,
Ralf Ertzinger fed...@camperquake.de wrote:
Hi.
On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 21:48:22 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote
I got some info from McGrath and added it to the wiki.
I don't think it's a good idea to save informations that are used
to authenticate
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 11:08:02 -0400,
Tom Lane t...@redhat.com wrote:
Just in case you thought we weren't having enough infrastructure fun
already ...
My web browser is complaining that admin.fedoraproject.org is presenting
an invalid SSL certificate: it expired July 31, 2010 8:17:52 AM
On Sat, Aug 07, 2010 at 18:04:29 +0200,
Felix Kaechele fe...@fetzig.org wrote:
Furthermore I'd be interested in comaintaining the Asterisk stack,
especially also the DAHDI package, as I plan to submit the DAHDI kmods
to RPMFusion and it would be easier for me to keep stuff in sync if I
had
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 13:27:05 +0200,
Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com wrote:
Problem is not an image (we will provide it in the future, forever), the
issue
is size constraint - software grows faster and faster, we have more
dependencies
etc. - means less software on LiveCD...
I
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 14:50:38 -0400,
Nathaniel McCallum nathan...@natemccallum.com wrote:
One thing I am curious about is why, when slipping for an Alpha target,
the whole schedule slips. Can't we just take a week out of the Beta
cycle? The amount of testing time is roughly the same.
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 13:19:29 -0500,
Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote:
Since 2006 we've slipped at least 16-18 weeks by my count. That's more
than half of a full release cycle.
Thoughts?
One thing I have noticed is people landing big changes (such as python and
systemd) that break
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:00:29 -0700,
Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
We usually catch most initial blockers for any given release at the
first TC stage. Bugs we slip for are usually ones identified at that
stage that we couldn't fix in time, bugs introduced between TC and RC
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 14:32:21 -0400,
Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net wrote:
So users of absent or dysfunctional DDC and/or EDID should be committed to
800x600 or 1024x768 @96DPI until they replace their (quality, antique, still
working just fine) displays or learn the cryptic and
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 01:18:29 +0200,
Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote:
Bruno Wolff III wrote:
I hope to occasionally push back a little against this. When LZMA squashfs
makes it upstream (it looks like it won't happen in time for F14) we will
probably gain about 10% on what we
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 16:54:22 +0200,
Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote:
Chris Adams wrote:
Why don't you give the kernel maintainers the same courtesy?
Because LZMA SquashFS is a feature which affects the live images, and almost
exclusively the live images, and as such the
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 22:22:18 -0700,
Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote:
How do you suggest we be more conservative? If you expect the
developers to do this on their own, good luck. If you want there to be
some sort of enforcement I welcome suggestions.
My suggestion would be to
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 09:49:42 -0600,
Nathanael D. Noblet nathan...@gnat.ca wrote:
Since the move to git, would it not be easier to allow features to
branch rawhide, get their individual bits together (syncing with 'trunk'
periodically)... Then like the kernel does, merge back the
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 10:04:22 -0500,
Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com wrote:
Mike McGrath wrote:
Do you like fixing things but don't care what?
Are you a jack of all trades sort of person?
We need your help!
Hey Mike,
I know you're a cool guy and would be interested in
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 18:20:29 +0200,
Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote:
Bruno Wolff III wrote:
I really think the benefits and costs need to be looked at on a case by
case basis and the package maintainers should be the ones making the call.
The problem is, the kernel
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 19:07:57 +0200,
Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote:
Bruno Wolff III wrote:
Most features are fairly independent and don't cause problems when they
run late or have problems, outside of that feature. Some are somewhat
disruptive and can make it hard to test
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 00:32:46 +0200,
Sven Lankes s...@lank.es wrote:
Smartphones seem to be changing this and the number of full-quote,
top-post emails is increasing steadily.
I prefer that if it's too hard to intersperse text, that all of the old
message be removed.
The signatures that
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 19:02:36 +1000,
David Timms dti...@iinet.net.au wrote:
I was wondering if there is any process that we (spin developers - music
list) could use to confirm that a spin iso was
1. built with a particular kickstart file (or list of files when there
is kickstart
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 16:44:29 -0700,
Matt McCutchen m...@mattmccutchen.net wrote:
On Mon, 2010-08-16 at 01:15 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Some web sites are indeed abusing JavaScript.
A web site is
not and should not be an application, an application is not and should not
be a web
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 15:48:14 -0700,
Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
Meanwhile, back in the real world, it is effectively impossible to use
all sorts of useful websites without Javascript enabled. Even for
Then don't use them. If sites don't get used they may stop requiring
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 17:08:27 -0700,
J. Randall Owens jrowens.fed...@ghiapet.net wrote:
Maybe you should file a bug against Javascript in Firefox? Oh, wait,
bugzilla uses Javascript, doesn't it? Scratch that, no bugzilla for the
purists.
I don't use it with javascript enabled.
Release bump scripts bumping release version numbers for prereleases should
be handled more carefully or they can cause update problems later on.
For example xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.13.1-0.20100705git37b348059.fc14 got bumped
to xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.13.1-1.20100705git37b348059.fc14 and then later
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:04:33 -0700,
Jesse Keating jkeat...@j2solutions.net wrote:
This likely happened because the original release string was non-conformant.
I missed that. After that happened it looks like the release string did get
changed to be conformant.
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