Re: Builder update

2013-08-31 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 09:59:49AM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 11:41:31 -0400 Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org wrote: I think the most practical thing is to build version N of self-hosting systems using version N-1 (in addition to supporting building N with N). If you

Re: Protection from merge commits

2013-09-11 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 06:35:54PM -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Pete Zaitcev writes: Dear All: I found that I pushed a merge node into Fedora git (fortunately it was only on f19 branch, not in Rawhide): commit 51eec48c20ba57054f17ba29f23e6a0aa36df9a4 Merge: ac36771 f9213a5 Author:

Re: Review swaps: perl-Parse-DebControl, devscripts, debian-keyring, ubuntu-keyring, jetring + question: where to install keyrings?

2013-09-19 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 06:41:03PM +0200, Sandro Mani wrote: Hi, In the hope to continue the effort of getting pbuilder (and hence an easy way to build deb packages from fedora) into the repos (review here: [1]), I've packaged devscripts, debian-keyring, ubuntu-keyring and jetring. Reviews

Re: Review swaps: perl-Parse-DebControl, devscripts, debian-keyring, ubuntu-keyring, jetring + question: where to install keyrings?

2013-09-22 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 12:14:29AM +0200, Sandro Mani wrote: On 20.09.2013 06:37, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 06:41:03PM +0200, Sandro Mani wrote: Hi, In the hope to continue the effort of getting pbuilder (and hence an easy way to build deb packages from

Re: Review swaps: perl-Parse-DebControl, devscripts, debian-keyring, ubuntu-keyring, jetring + question: where to install keyrings?

2013-10-04 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 10:30:11AM +0200, Sandro Mani wrote: On 23.09.2013 02:01, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 12:14:29AM +0200, Sandro Mani wrote: On 20.09.2013 06:37, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 06:41:03PM +0200, Sandro Mani

Re: Review swap: python-jsmin, python-cssmin

2013-10-04 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Oct 04, 2013 at 08:41:55AM -0400, Martin Krizek wrote: - Original Message - From: Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com To: Development discussions related to Fedora devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Cc: Martin Krizek mkri...@redhat.com Sent: Friday, October 4, 2013 2:33:50

Re: GPG verification in SPECs

2013-10-11 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Oct 08, 2013 at 10:22:57AM -0400, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote: On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 6:01 PM, Brian C. Lane b...@redhat.com wrote: In parted we have a signed upstream package and a detached signature. In the pkg git we have the signer's public key and in %prep it runs gpg.

Review request: mathjax - JavaScript library to render math

2013-10-14 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
Hello all, I'm looking for a reviewer for mathjax package [1]. Getting the package in Fedora seems to be a worthy goal, because currently 6 packages bundle mathjax, including fonts, so besides the usual good karma from following packaging guidelines, there should be a noticable reduction in

Re: Automounting of the root partition in the initramfs

2013-10-16 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 01:17:25PM +0200, Juerg Haefliger wrote: All, The (admittedly hacky) dracut-modules-growroot package installs a dracut script that runs in the pre-pivot stage. It unmounts the root partition, extends it to the maximum possible size and then tries to remount it.

Re: Automounting of the root partition in the initramfs

2013-10-17 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 10:32:11AM +0200, Juerg Haefliger wrote: All, The (admittedly hacky) dracut-modules-growroot package installs a dracut script that runs in the pre-pivot stage. It unmounts the root partition, extends it to the maximum possible size and then tries to

Re: pycairo

2013-10-22 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 11:27:22AM +0800, Christopher Meng wrote: Hi list, I'm building some packages which depend on the latest version of pycairo, and an inprogress feature also needs its rebuild(https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1005447) as well. However the version in Fedora

Re: pycairo

2013-10-23 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 11:50:39AM +0800, Mathieu Bridon wrote: On Wed, 2013-10-23 at 11:46 +0800, Christopher Meng wrote: On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Mathieu Bridon boche...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Note that the package was renamed anyway, without waiting for the rename review

Re: Review swap

2013-10-23 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 11:34:23AM -0400, Darryl L. Pierce wrote: I have a package review (BZ#1022584:Review Request: qpid-qmf - The QPID Management Framework). I pulled the subpackages from qpid-cpp relating to QMF so they can built completely separate from Qpid. I'll take this one. I'm

unretiring json

2013-10-28 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
Hi, according to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Orphaned_package_that_need_new_maintainers I'd like to announce that I want to unretire the json package [1], which is needed it for closure-compiler [2]. According to dead.package file, package was retired on 2012-08-06 due to no active maintainers

Re: unretiring json

2013-10-29 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 05:52:11PM +0100, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: On 10/28/2013 10:25 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: according to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Orphaned_package_that_need_new_maintainers I'd like to announce that I want to unretire the json package [1], which

Re: Packages have proxy word.

2013-10-31 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 01:08:33AM +0200, مصعب الزعبي wrote: بسم الله الرّحمن الرّحيم Hi, The result of updating Fedora by yum is fail !! When any package have proxy word marked to (install or update) , error message will appear with http 403 error forbidden. In my country Syria

Re: Packages have proxy word.

2013-11-01 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 12:09:03PM +, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 02:07:22AM +0100, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 01:08:33AM +0200, مصعب الزعبي wrote: بسم الله الرّحمن الرّحيم Hi, The result of updating Fedora by yum

Re: Copr

2013-11-11 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Nov 07, 2013 at 01:54:40PM +0100, Miroslav Suchý wrote: Dear developers and Fedora contributors, let me introduce Copr: http://copr-fe.cloud.fedoraproject.org/ Very useful already, thanks! Couple of questions: Would it be possible to provide an rpm with the .repo file

Re: [pkgdb2] call for testers, bug reports and RFE

2013-11-13 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 02:52:27PM +0100, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: - The idea of owner of a package disapear. There are only maintainers on which one of them appears to be the dedicated point of contact for this package (ie: the person that gets the bugs in bugzilla). Why this new

Re: How to escape question mark / equality sign in spec's source URI to get proper source name

2013-11-14 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 05:21:04AM -0500, Matej Stuchlik wrote: - Original Message - From: Mathieu Bridon boche...@fedoraproject.org To: Development discussions related to Fedora devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 11:12:21 AM Subject: Re: How to

Re: File conflict when upgrading package

2013-11-18 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 01:31:32PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: On Mon, 2013-11-18 at 00:44 +0100, Mattias Ellert wrote: sön 2013-11-17 klockan 22:12 +0100 skrev Sandro Mani: Upgrading from xflr5-6.09.05-4.fc21.x86_64 to xflr5-6.09.05-5.fc21.x86_64 however fails with Transaction

Re: review swap: ShellCheck

2013-12-01 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 01:53:26PM +0100, Dridi Boukelmoune wrote: Hi, Anyone interested in reviewing ShellCheck ? Thanks to the Haskell SIG, it was only a matter of minutes to get a working spec ! https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=ShellCheck Reviewed. I'm looking for reviewers

Re: Obsolete packages still included in Rawhide

2013-12-04 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
python-ordereddict is obsolete also: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=100 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: ABRT in the comps group 'standard'

2013-12-06 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 12:08:22PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 13:18 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: And what purpose does abrt serve if there aren't people fixing the issue it reports on the other end... Well, that's easy enough to shoot down.

Re: Help needed with systemd script

2013-12-14 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 04:13:21PM +0100, Alec Leamas wrote: On 2013-12-14 15:31, Mattia Verga wrote: This is the log output: + xhost +SI:localuser:boinc xhost: unable to open display + sleep 1 I. e., there's no DISPLAY defined when running the systemd script. I'm not sure there's any

Re: After update some services are long started.

2013-06-12 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at 01:02:11AM +0400, Igor Gnatenko wrote: $ systemd-analyze blame 29.565s chronyd.service 29.468s avahi-daemon.service 27.942s firewalld.service 27.813s restorecond.service 27.695s gdm.service 20.003s

Re: logrotate(8) and copytruncate as default

2013-06-28 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 11:24:07PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2013-06-27 at 18:41 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: On Thu, 2013-06-27 at 23:38 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: Why would you want this? I mean, we rate-limit per-service anyway, so the issue of one app flooding

Re: logrotate(8) and copytruncate as default

2013-06-28 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 02:46:25PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 07:27:30PM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: Splitting is controlled by SplitMode= Controls whether to split up journal files per user. One of login, uid and none. If login each logged

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

2013-07-15 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:10:11PM -0600, Eric Smith wrote: On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote: (Just to mention this: we are neither the pioneer on the no-default-syslog feature nor on no-default-sendmail... A lot of other distros stopped

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

2013-07-15 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 02:28:41PM -0600, Eric Smith wrote: One process less in the system → faster bootup. As has been pointed out, it could easily be the systemd journal process that writes to /var/log/messages, so there wouldn't necessarily be one fewer process. Logs not duplicated →

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

2013-07-15 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 02:53:06PM -0600, Eric Smith wrote: On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek zbys...@in.waw.pl wrote: So removing the binary journal has huge downsides. I don't dispute that removing it would have a downside. I might dispute that the downside

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

2013-07-15 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:38:14PM +0200, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: On 15.07.2013 23:06, Lennart Poettering wrote: It's a matter of finding the right balance: i.e. what can be text files, and where we have to win more by making it binary. I am pretty sure this is a case where we win more

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

2013-07-15 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 05:43:43PM -0500, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de said: On Mon, 15.07.13 16:42, Chris Adams (li...@cmadams.net) wrote: I assume you mean arrow key to the right, but that doesn't work when I run journalctl. I get No next

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

2013-07-15 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 07:25:28PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 09:13:24AM +1000, Dan Fruehauf wrote: Another question while we're at it - what happens if and when you decide to change your binary format for storing files for whatever reason? Is that when we

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

2013-07-15 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 06:39:59PM -0500, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek zbys...@in.waw.pl said: On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 05:43:43PM -0500, Chris Adams wrote: No, the bug is journalctl, not less. If I run journalctl | less, I get wrapped lines. If I run

Re: cloud images and journald/rsyslog

2013-07-15 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 07:27:57PM -0500, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de said: Well, the duplicate log files will be accounted for every instance of a container/VM. The more containers you run, the more often you pay for it. This is different

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

2013-07-15 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 07:26:15PM -0500, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek zbys...@in.waw.pl said: Sure, those are the defaults. If you had written that you don't like the systemd defaults, instead of talking about bugs, this whole conversation would have

Re: cloud images and journald/rsyslog

2013-07-15 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 08:46:55PM -0500, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek zbys...@in.waw.pl said: The total space taken by journal is limited by size and percantage of free space on the /var/log/journal filesystem [1], and age [2]. Individual journal files

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

2013-07-16 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:43:31PM -0500, Andrew McNabb wrote: On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:28:48PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: (also: journalctl doesn't truncate lines when doing auto-paging) Could sane auto-paging be backported to systemctl? Things like this can make all the

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

2013-07-16 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 01:37:14PM -0500, Andrew McNabb wrote: On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 08:09:27PM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: Could you be more specific as to what you would like to see changed? systemctl uses the the pager in long outputs like list-units, and it is the same

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

2013-07-16 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 07:25:10PM -0500, Andrew McNabb wrote: On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 10:09:19PM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: Yes, this is still the case, that plain 'systemctl' truncates unit names. It's a tough choice, but in this specific case it's hard to find a format

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

2013-07-17 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 08:56:45AM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 02:52:40PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 07/17/2013 12:06 PM, Marc Deop i Argemí wrote: On Wednesday 17 July 2013 03:20:42 Lennart Poettering wrote: As mentioned before, if people run programs

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

2013-07-17 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 09:35:33AM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 03:30:20PM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 08:56:45AM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: Is there a way to read binary journals from non-Linux OSes? Compiling journalctl

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

2013-07-17 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 02:37:32PM +0100, James Hogarth wrote: Personally I'd love to see other applications make use of journald facilities such as httpd and tomcat... Would simplify some of the occasionally odd logrotate behaviour for sure... For httpd, see

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

2013-07-17 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:00:05PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 17.07.2013 11:21, schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: On 07/17/2013 12:58 AM, Ding Yi Chen wrote: You still have not addressed the third party programs and scripts that monitor /var/log/messages We honestly cant keep

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

2013-07-17 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:24:14AM -0400, Przemek Klosowski wrote: On 07/15/2013 07:25 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 09:13:24AM +1000, Dan Fruehauf wrote: Another question while we're at it - what happens if and when you decide to change your binary format for storing files

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

2013-07-17 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:37:16AM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek (zbys...@in.waw.pl) said: Compiling journalctl on UINXy OSes should not be too much of a problem. You'd need dbus = 1.4.0, libcap, liblzma (if used by the journal files in question). Not trivial

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

2013-07-17 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:09:14PM -0400, john.flor...@dart.biz wrote: From: nott...@redhat.com john.flor...@dart.biz (john.flor...@dart.biz) said: You can provide binary path (_EXE=) by ”journalctl /usr/sbin/sshd”. Yes, but that's of little help with applications using

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

2013-07-17 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:31:56PM -0400, Steve Clark wrote: On 07/15/2013 08:29 PM, Lars Seipel wrote: On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 02:46:27PM -0600, Eric Smith wrote: I don't actually care whether there's a binary journal or not, but far more of us have real usecases for /var/log/messages, so we

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

2013-07-17 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:03:04PM -0500, Andrew McNabb wrote: On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 04:24:01AM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: The ... in the middle of the line makes the output completely unusable. That might be a bit of an exagerration, no? If I run systemctl

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

2013-07-17 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 01:39:30PM -0400, john.flor...@dart.biz wrote: From: zbys...@in.waw.pl On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:09:14PM -0400, john.flor...@dart.biz wrote: From: nott...@redhat.com john.flor...@dart.biz (john.flor...@dart.biz) said: You can provide binary path

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

2013-07-17 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 05:42:21PM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 07/17/2013 05:40 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: It really feels like this discussion is beyond its peak usefulness. Maybe we can give another shot of relevance by collecting a list of packages that depend on syslog (or are

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

2013-07-17 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 01:40:27PM -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: It really feels like this discussion is beyond its peak usefulness. Maybe we can give another shot of relevance by collecting a list of packages that depend on syslog (or are useless without /var/log/messages or other log files

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

2013-07-17 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 01:12:17PM -0500, Andrew McNabb wrote: On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 05:41:38PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 04:38:29PM -0500, Chris Adams wrote: And, despite your statement to the contrary, journalctl (without -f) does truncate long lines. The

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

2013-07-17 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 01:29:45PM -0500, Andrew McNabb wrote: On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 08:14:40PM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: journalctl -fl in sufficiently new versions. So that will be in Fedora 20, right? It doesn't seem to work in Fedora 19. It's just an alias

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

2013-07-17 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:28:10AM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Wed, 17.07.13 18:18, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek (zbys...@in.waw.pl) wrote: journalctl _COMM=blah works for me on F19. As it does for me, but somewhere it got clipped that what I was asking/wishing

Re: Multirelease effort: Moving to Python 3

2013-07-18 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 11:24:22AM -0400, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: Hi all, as a new Fedora Python maintainer, I have set myself a goal of moving Fedora to Python 3 as a default. That's a worthy goal! From packaging point of view, this will probably require: 1) Renaming python package to

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Syslog

2013-07-19 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 08:15:11AM +0930, Glen Turner wrote: Hi Lennart, I suppose someone should mention small flash-disk-only computers. There traditionally we fling syslog messages to the serial console or a LRU buffer in RAM (often the dmesg buffer). The point is to avoid I/O on the

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Sendmail

2013-07-24 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 02:11:18PM +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le Mer 24 juillet 2013 13:11, Lennart Poettering a écrit : The second part of my mail that you conveniently removed actually explains why that doesn't work: because the SASL auth is inherently per-user configuration but in

self introduction

2013-07-24 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
Hello everyone, My name is Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek. I work as a postdoc at a university in Washington, D.C. I've been working on systemd a bit during last year. I've been active on the Fedora mailing lists and on the bug tracker for some time, but without officially joining. I hope to do

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Sendmail

2013-07-24 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 03:13:33AM +0300, Oron Peled wrote: On Wednesday 24 July 2013 13:23:08 Lennart Poettering wrote: On Tue, 23.07.13 04:03, Oron Peled (o...@actcom.co.il) wrote: There are two issues however: * The log-splitting of journald is really nice feature. But it doesn't

Re: Does your application depend on, or report, free disk space? Re: F20 Self Contained Change: OS Installer Support for LVM Thin Provisioning

2013-07-31 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 05:34:05PM -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: On Mon, 2013-07-29 at 23:06 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: Well, the point I am making is that it is wrong to ask userspace to handle this. Get the APIs right you expose to userspace. If user space assume it can use 'all the

Re: self introduction

2013-08-03 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Sat, Aug 03, 2013 at 01:46:51PM +0800, Christopher Meng wrote: Hi, I remembered you when you were in Debian. Hi, yeah, I still use Debian a lot, but I'm much more active in Fedora. My lab uses Fedora, and also systemd upstream is here. Zbyszek -- devel mailing list

Re: Introduction

2013-08-26 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 12:56:18PM +0200, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: What to expect from me? Mostly build failure fixes and help with ARM/AArch64. Hi, good to hear that. Do you have any plans wrt. Chrombook support in Fedora? I know you did some fixes for Ubuntu, and I think they haven't been

Re: Heads up; F22 will require applications to ship appdata to be listed in software center

2014-01-23 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 04:53:47PM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 15:26:24 -0800 Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: I think ideally any process around this should have at least two parts: a) an automated/scriptable part. In this part the script uses cold hard

Re: Shipping package metadata in a package

2014-01-24 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 10:01:09AM +, Richard Hughes wrote: The downside to shipping prepared metadata is that the package size is larger, and that the metadata would be *very* out of date after a year or so. I don't see the problem with stale metadata of this kind. It's not like a

Re: I want to turn on a part of the kernel to make SELinux checking more stringent.

2014-01-24 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 10:22:56AM -0500, Daniel J Walsh wrote: ExecStart=/bin/sh -c '/bin/echo $CHECKREQPROT /sys/fs/selinux/checkreqprot' ExecStart=/bin/sh -c '/bin/echo ${CHECKREQPROT} /sys/fs/selinux/checkreqprot' I think we really need an echo command with sudo syntax. I keep a local

Re: Shipping package metadata in a package

2014-01-24 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 03:44:07PM +, Richard Hughes wrote: On 24 January 2014 15:39, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek zbys...@in.waw.pl wrote: BTW. Reminded by this thread, I've added appdata files for the calibre package. In the appdata file I have a screenshot: screenshot type=default

Re: Review swaps: misc debian packaging stuff

2014-02-09 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Sun, Feb 09, 2014 at 07:07:01PM +0100, Sandro Mani wrote: Hi, Some more debian packaging stuff, useful when building certain packages with pbuilder: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1063044 - dh-autoreconf - debhelper add-on to call autoreconf and clean up after the build

Re: Proposal to WGs and rel-eng: Move 90-default.preset from systemd to fedora-release

2014-02-13 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 09:24:30AM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 14:53:13 +0100 Václav Pavlín vpav...@redhat.com wrote: Hi, ...snip... Based on these arguments, I'd like to propose to move this file to the fedora-release package (or elsewhere, if you can suggest

Re: Has support for Pentium III been terminated?

2014-03-03 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Mar 03, 2014 at 06:48:15PM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: Anyone know where to find a howto for capturing a crash that triggers a system halt or reboot? Try a serial console or maybe netconsole. Zbyszek -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Service units for web applications

2014-03-03 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 04:11:23PM -0700, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: On 25 February 2014 16:04, Simo Sorce s...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, 2014-02-25 at 22:41 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: Mabye httpd.rpm wants to include a tool that has a similar feel like systemctl, maybe httpdctl or

Re: State of Python 3 as default in Fedora

2014-03-04 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 11:15:34AM -0500, Dan Scott wrote: On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 7:52 AM, Miro Hrončok mhron...@redhat.com wrote: Hi, I've just published a blogpost that summarizes what's going on with Python 3 as default in Fedora. You can find it here:

Re: F21 System Wide Change: lbzip2 as default bzip2 implementation

2014-04-02 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 03:10:23PM -0400, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: On 04/02/2014 11:33 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: packages using the library (output of yum remove bzip2-libs-1.0.6-9.fc20.x86_64) Try: repoquery --whatrequires 'libbz2.so.1()(64bit)' We'll certainly need to keep the

Re: F21 System Wide Change: lbzip2 as default bzip2 implementation

2014-04-02 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
** possibly adjust spec files to require or build-require lbzip2 instead of bzip2. Is this necessary? Wouldn't it be better to have lbzip2 Provide bzip2 or something so that updating all those packages is not necessary, and also that people who prefer normal bzip2 can still use it? Zbyszek --

Re: F21 System Wide Change: lbzip2 as default bzip2 implementation

2014-04-02 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 07:26:59PM -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 08:47:11PM -0500, Chris Adams wrote: I think the right way to move forward is to make a library that is at least API-compatible with the current libbz2.so.1, make all the tools use it, and just

Re: F21 System Wide Change: lbzip2 as default bzip2 implementation

2014-04-08 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 04:15:59PM +0200, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: As I promised, I prepared a benchmark of lbzip2 and bzip2. Decompression of linux-3.12.6.tar.bz2 - command| real | user | sys | memory ---+++--+---

Re: F21 System Wide Change: lbzip2 as default bzip2 implementation

2014-04-08 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 12:49:25PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 04:15:59PM +0200, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: lbzip2 was the fastest compressor and decompressor in all tests. It the best command for interactive use. lbzip2 -u always produced smallest files (even

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Framework for Server Role Deployment

2014-04-08 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Apr 08, 2014 at 12:53:59PM +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: = Proposed System Wide Change: Framework for Server Role Deployment = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/FrameworkForServerRoleDeployment Change owner(s): Miloslav Trmač mitr AT volny DOT cz, Fedora Server Working Group

Re: F21 system GCC changed to 4.9.0 prerelease

2014-04-12 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 11:41:48AM +0200, Zoltan Boszormenyi wrote: Any project I tried with ./configure CFLAGS=-fsanitize=undefined -fsanitize=address fails with: checking for gcc... gcc checking whether the C compiler works... no config.log reveals that libasan.so and libubsan.so

Re: appdata handling

2014-04-13 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 02:21:03PM +0200, Markus Mayer wrote: A new version of a package I maintain added an appdata.xml. As I haven't handled such files before, I looked up the internet for some information. The only helpful hint I found, was a commit adding appdata support to the qt-creator

Re: F21 Self Contained Change: Remote Journal Logging

2014-04-14 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 05:19:17PM +0300, Alexander Bokovoy wrote: How certificates are managed for sender and receiver parts? By some external means... This could be automated, e.g. using certmaster, but I don't want to tie to a specific certificate distribution implementation. Who generates

Re: F21 Self Contained Change: Remote Journal Logging

2014-04-14 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 04:20:16PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said: = Proposed Self Contained Change: Remote Journal Logging = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Remote_Journal_Logging Change owner(s): Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek zbys

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

2014-04-15 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:01:51AM +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: = Proposed System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Workstation_Disable_Firewall Change owner(s): Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com The firewalld service will not be enabled

Re: F21 Self Contained Change: Remote Journal Logging

2014-04-15 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 09:25:39AM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: To be clear here, all this is implemented in the two daemons right? When you say it uses https, thats natively done in the daemons, they don't need apache or some other https implementor in the way? Yes, it's implemented in two

Re: F21 Self Contained Change: Remote Journal Logging

2014-04-15 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:00:45AM -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: On Mon, 2014-04-14 at 15:07 +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: = Proposed Self Contained Change: Remote Journal Logging = The communication between the two daemons is done over standard HTTPS, following rather simple rules, so it is

Re: F21 Self Contained Change: Remote Journal Logging

2014-04-16 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 03:30:57PM -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: On Tue, 2014-04-15 at 20:28 +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:00:45AM -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: On Mon, 2014-04-14 at 15:07 +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: = Proposed Self Contained Change: Remote

Re: F21 Self Contained Change: Remote Journal Logging

2014-04-16 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:39:07AM -0400, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote: Zbigniew =?utf-8?Q?J=C4=99drzejewski-Szmek?= zbys...@in.waw.pl writes: [...] Using HTTP makes it possible to use e.g. use curl to upload some logs from the commandline. It should also be fairly easy for people to write

Re: F21 Self Contained Change: Remote Journal Logging

2014-04-16 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 12:46:15PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek (zbys...@in.waw.pl) said: On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 04:20:16PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said: = Proposed Self Contained Change: Remote Journal Logging

Re: F21 Self Contained Change: Remote Journal Logging

2014-04-16 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 12:50:53PM -0400, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com wrote: The communication between the two daemons is done over standard HTTPS, I hear you holler OMG you have to build full redundancy in your logging backend;

Re: F21 Self Contained Change: Remote Journal Logging

2014-04-16 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 12:48:21PM -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: On Wed, 2014-04-16 at 15:04 +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 03:30:57PM -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: I'd imagine that in a setup with a few servers one would create the certificates

Re: F21 Self Contained Change: Remote Journal Logging

2014-04-16 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 04:57:25PM -0400, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek zbys...@in.waw.pl wrote: the upload client is like any other journal client -- it is fully asynchronous wrt. to journald writing log entries. (It's something like

Re: F21 Self Contained Change: Remote Journal Logging

2014-04-17 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 07:33:16AM -0400, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 5:08 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek zbys...@in.waw.pl wrote: So I'll ask you about this other aspect -- what about stateless clients with very limited or no local storage? Not supported

Re: F21 Self Contained Change: Remote Journal Logging

2014-04-17 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 10:17:28PM +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote: 2014-04-16 19:08 GMT+02:00 Chris Adams li...@cmadams.net: It would be good if systemd could use or extend an existing logging protocol, rather than invent yet another method. Yes. Going by the feature page and from what

Re: F21 Self Contained Change: Remote Journal Logging

2014-04-17 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 10:12:24PM +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote: Hello, 2014-04-16 15:04 GMT+02:00 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek zbys...@in.waw.pl: I'll reconsider using SASL instead. I have the HTTPS-transport version almost ready, so for now I'll go with that, to have a working solution

Re: Mass bug proposal: packages that auto-enable systemd units

2014-04-22 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 12:17:10PM -0700, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: Examples of runs once then goes away services include iptables and udev. I removed udev from this paragraph on the wiki, since it's persistent and is a bad example. Zbyszek -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: F21 Self Contained Change: Remote Journal Logging

2014-04-22 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 06:34:48AM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Wed, 16.04.14 12:46, Bill Nottingham (nott...@splat.cc) wrote: Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek (zbys...@in.waw.pl) said: On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 04:20:16PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: Jaroslav Reznik (jrez

Re: F21 Self Contained Change: Remote Journal Logging

2014-04-22 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 03:32:26PM -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: On Tue, 2014-04-22 at 20:58 +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote: 2014-04-22 20:19 GMT+02:00 Simo Sorce s...@redhat.com: On Tue, 2014-04-22 at 19:04 +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote: 2014-04-22 15:10 GMT+02:00 Simo Sorce s...@redhat.com:

Re: Mass bug proposal: packages that auto-enable systemd units

2014-04-23 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 08:49:58AM -0700, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: If no one tells me otherwise today, I will take the lack of objections to the mass bug filing as consensus. Yeah, no objections from my side. Zbyszek -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: [RFC] plans for initscripts in F22

2014-04-24 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 04:38:07PM +0200, Lukáš Nykrýn wrote: Hi, for the F22 I am planning some bigger changes regarding initscripts and I would like to ask for comments. Initscripts package was in the past a crucial part of the system. They basicaly set up whole system during the boot.

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