Re: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd

2011-09-09 Thread Kevin Kofler
Al Dunsmuir wrote: I agree, provided you mean not necessarily by each package's maintainer. In some cases, folks working on the common goal do need the assistance of the package maintainer. Alternatively, the package maintainer may be able to make the required changes in a timely manner on

Re: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd

2011-09-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2011-09-03 at 15:46 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: the alpha was release and http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd is at 0% - why will F16 released WITHOUT making the system clean which should have been done for F15 How many releases will this dirty mix of systemd

Re: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd

2011-09-06 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi, 2011/9/6 Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com: On 09/06/2011 02:55 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote: Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) said: the alpha was release and http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd is at 0% - why will F16 released WITHOUT making the system clean

Re: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd

2011-09-06 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 09/06/2011 08:39 AM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: I created a service for wpa_supplicant. Is there something wrong with it? Nope Dan had sanctioned it but then another one appear upstream and as you know we try to avoid deviating from upstream. Not sure if Bill spoke with Dan about this ( I

Re: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd

2011-09-06 Thread Kevin Kofler
Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: There is one thing I have learned ( so far in the conversion process ) and that is that the current model surrounding maintainers and maintainership followed by various policies surrounding that model which we use here in Fedora as in maintainers Own their

Re: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd

2011-09-05 Thread Bill Nottingham
Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) said: the alpha was release and http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd is at 0% - why will F16 released WITHOUT making the system clean which should have been done for F15 Perhaps the feature owner should update it, as per the policy. How

Re: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd

2011-09-05 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 09/06/2011 02:55 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote: Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) said: the alpha was release and http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd is at 0% - why will F16 released WITHOUT making the system clean which should have been done for F15 Perhaps the feature

Re: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd

2011-09-05 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 09/03/2011 09:47 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Stephen John Smoogen wrote: On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 07:46, Reindl Haraldh.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: snip.. We need to get a provenpackager to just poke through all the packages and fix them instead of waiting for the maintainers. In some cases

Re: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd

2011-09-04 Thread Marcos Mello
Reindl Harald h.reindl at thelounge.net writes: the alpha was release and http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd is at 0% - why will F16 released WITHOUT making the system clean which should have been done for F15 How many releases will this dirty mix of systemd/sysvinit(lsb

Re: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd

2011-09-04 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 04.09.2011 02:20, schrieb Tom Lane: Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at writes: Stephen John Smoogen wrote: On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 07:46, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: How many releases will this dirty mix of systemd/sysvinit(lsb in the distribution exist until the OS can

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd

2011-09-03 Thread Reindl Harald
the alpha was release and http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd is at 0% - why will F16 released WITHOUT making the system clean which should have been done for F15 How many releases will this dirty mix of systemd/sysvinit(lsb in the distribution exist until the OS can be called

Re: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd

2011-09-03 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 07:46, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: the alpha was release and http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd is at 0% - why will F16 released WITHOUT making the system clean which should have been done for F15 How many releases will this dirty mix

Re: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd

2011-09-03 Thread Tom Lane
Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at writes: Stephen John Smoogen wrote: On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 07:46, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: How many releases will this dirty mix of systemd/sysvinit(lsb in the distribution exist until the OS can be called as clean like before F15? As