Re: root password

2008-01-03 Thread Bernardo Innocenti
Albert Cahalan wrote: I thought so to, but testing seems to show that pam_wheel.so will only protect transitions to the root account. It does not protect olpc, at least not without some undocumented option. Are you thinking that we should disable the password for the olpc user too? Well, we

New joyride build 1494

2008-01-03 Thread Build Announcer Script
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1494/ -olpc-library-common.noarch 0:1-14 +olpc-library-common.noarch 0:1-15 -olpc-library-core.noarch 0:1-14 +olpc-library-core.noarch 0:1-15 -olpc-utils.i386 0:0.60-1.olpc2 +olpc-utils.i386 0:0.62-1.olpc2 --- olpc-library-common.noarch

Is it possible to disable the jingle at boot ?

2008-01-03 Thread fr�ffffffffffe9d�ffffffffffe9ric
Hello I would like to disable the jingle at boot time I have tried some printenv , setenv silent-mode? true in openfirmware , but it doesn t work :-( My olpc is a G1G1 C2 , Openfirmware CL1 Q2D06 Q2D Can someone help me ? Thank you Frederic Pouchal

Re: Is it possible to disable the jingle at boot ?

2008-01-03 Thread Bernardo Innocenti
Mr frÿffe9dÿffe9ric pouchal wrote: I would like to disable the jingle at boot time you can lower the volume while the jingle is playing. OFW will store it and remember it for the next boot. I wish the rest of our software stack was equally refined. -- \___/ |___| Bernardo

Re: open firmware question

2008-01-03 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Jan 3, 2008, at 4:14 , Mitch Bradley wrote: Ricardo Carrano wrote: How do I do the opposite of copy-nand - copy the OS image _from_ the nand into a USB key? ok save-nand u:\foo.img Yep, this works nicely, even creates a corresponding CRC file. See

New joyride build 1495

2008-01-03 Thread Build Announcer Script
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1495/ -Calculate-15.xo +Calculate-16.xo --- Calculate-16 --- * Parser fixes, #5734 -- This email was automatically generated Aggregated logs at http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/joyride-pkgs.html

Re: Printing and the XO

2008-01-03 Thread Walter Bender
I started a page in the wiki: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Enabling_CUPS -walter On Jan 3, 2008 12:49 AM, Bernardo Innocenti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Krenesky wrote: While not a primary concern of the project, printing is something that teachers are asking for. [...] Is this nice

Re: Circumventing kernel signing

2008-01-03 Thread John Richard Moser
Mitch Bradley wrote: At some point, when these fairly obvious loopholes that we have known about since forever are closed, we plan to change the key so new machines will only run the more secure OS versions. Old machines will continue to be vulnerable until they are upgraded to new

Printing and the XO

2008-01-03 Thread david
apologies for not maintaining threading, but I've just subscribed on Wed Jan 2 16:43:39 EST 2008 Peter Krenesky said: nice overview of printing Configuration - XO The number of printers, the models, and their locations will be unknown. It may be 1 printer per school, or many depending

Project hosting application - TalknType

2008-01-03 Thread Tom Hannen
1. Project name : TalknType 2. Existing website, if any : http://wiki.laptop.org/go/TalknType 3. One-line description : A spelling game using speech synthesis, in the style of the SpeakSpell toy. 4. Longer description : * Currently

RE: Printing and the XO

2008-01-03 Thread Greg Smith (gregmsmi)
Hi Peter, Which teachers or schools have been asking for printing support? If we can add some documentation on that to the Wiki it will help a lot. It makes sense that schools would want printing and CUPS is a robust tool in my experience. Real world user cases will help determine how much

Re: Sugar UI design and Tux Paint

2008-01-03 Thread Eben Eliason
Agreed. I said, 'sometimes'. I think that it is better to stay non-modal if possible. (For the last of your cases, changes to activity structure, eg email settings or ftp server or something, an autosaving dropdown/autocomplete list of previously-used settings is a way to provide undo without

Screen saver on B4 units

2008-01-03 Thread Ricardo Carrano
Though xset q returns the following settings on both an MP and a B4 unit, screen saver does not seem to work in the latter. I mean, the screen does not blank as it does in the MP unit. (...) Screen Saver: prefer blanking: yesallow exposures: yes timeout: 600cycle: 600 (...)

Re: Screen saver on B4 units

2008-01-03 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, Though xset q returns the following settings on both an MP and a B4 unit, screen saver does not seem to work in the latter. I mean, the screen does not blank as it does in the MP unit. Expected; the dcon hardware doesn't come out of sleep mode successfully on B4, so putting it to

shutting off wireless for air travel

2008-01-03 Thread David W Hogg
Is there any way to shut off the wireless on the vanilla G1G1 laptops so that they may be used on an airplane legally? I am about to fly with mine. -- David W. Hogg - associate professor, NYU - http://cosmo.nyu.edu/hogg/ ___ Devel mailing list

Re: shutting off wireless for air travel

2008-01-03 Thread Phil Bordelon
David W Hogg wrote: Is there any way to shut off the wireless on the vanilla G1G1 laptops so that they may be used on an airplane legally? I am about to fly with mine. Yup. Open up the Terminal activity, then: sugar-control-panel -s radio off You can '-s radio on' when you're back on

Re: shutting off wireless for air travel

2008-01-03 Thread Eben Eliason
Also, the FAQ on the wiki has information about this and many other common questions, for future reference: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Support_FAQ#How_do_I_disable_wireless_when_flying.3F - Eben On Jan 3, 2008 11:36 AM, Phil Bordelon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David W Hogg wrote: Is there any

Re: shutting off wireless for air travel

2008-01-03 Thread David W Hogg
Thanks for this -- I did do this a few days ago, and after doing it, I could still see wireless networks in my neighborhood. Should I be concerned? On Jan 3, 2008 11:36 AM, Phil Bordelon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David W Hogg wrote: Is there any way to shut off the wireless on the vanilla G1G1

Re: Adding content to the XO

2008-01-03 Thread Eric Van Hensbergen
On Jan 2, 2008 11:10 PM, Benj. Mako Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: quote who=Eric Van Hensbergen date=Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 12:25:48PM -0600 I'm running with a stock laptop from the G1G1 program, the instructions on the library grid (in the wiki) don't seem to match what I see on my XO --

how do I update to the test builds?

2008-01-03 Thread david
olpc-update will let me install (some) of the joyride builds, but it doesn't seem to see the update.1 builds that are being announced on this list. so two questions 1. which set of test builds is more useful for me to be running? 2. how do I get it to install the update.1 test builds? David

Re: Is it possible to disable the jingle at boot ?

2008-01-03 Thread Mitch Bradley
Bernardo Innocenti wrote: Mr frÿffe9dÿffe9ric pouchal wrote: I would like to disable the jingle at boot time you can lower the volume while the jingle is playing. OFW will store it and remember it for the next boot. I wish the rest of our software stack was

Kernel configuration options

2008-01-03 Thread david
one good reason to avoid modules where we cn is that each module that gets loaded wastes a partial page of memory (arguably ~2k/module on average), on a system with only 256M ram this can add up to be a noticable amount of memory lost if you go the route some advocate and make everything a

Re: Kernel configuration options

2008-01-03 Thread Mitch Bradley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rant ... the biggest benefits look like they would be in cleaning up the userspace boot process. there is a _lot_ of stuff started that may not be needed in the stable hardware environment of the XO laptop where there is really only one program active at a time

Re: shutting off wireless for air travel

2008-01-03 Thread Ricardo Carrano
I would suggest: rmmod usb8xxx -- Ricardo Carrano -- Original Message --- From: Phil Bordelon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David W Hogg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 10:36:26 -0600 Subject: Re: shutting off wireless for air travel David W Hogg wrote:

Re: shutting off wireless for air travel

2008-01-03 Thread Mitch Bradley
Ricardo Carrano wrote: I would suggest: rmmod usb8xxx That is (or at least used to be) ineffective, as the module would just get reloaded automatically. The workaround is (was?) to rename /lib/firmware/usb8388.bin -- Ricardo Carrano -- Original Message --- From:

Re: Project hosting application - TalknType

2008-01-03 Thread Carol Lerche
Agree that this is a worthy project. Two suggestions: 1. Chunking -- It would be awesome if the word pronouncer could pronounce using chunking as well, the method literacy teachers use to help emergent readers learn phonics decoding skills. See links on the Phonics page for some resources

Software status meeting on IRC (today, 21:00 EST Boston)

2008-01-03 Thread Jim Gettys
We'll be having the regular software meeting on IRC (irc.freenode.net #olpc-meeting) tonight at 9pm EST. See you there! Please send me agenda items for discussion. Date/time: http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=1day=3year=2008hour=21min=0sec=0p1=43 Agenda: Schedule

Re: Kernel configuration options

2008-01-03 Thread david
On Thu, 3 Jan 2008, Mitch Bradley wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rant ... the biggest benefits look like they would be in cleaning up the userspace boot process. there is a _lot_ of stuff started that may not be needed in the stable hardware environment of the XO laptop where there is

loss of wireless after joyride-1496 update

2008-01-03 Thread Dan Krejsa
Hi, I (perhaps foolishly) updated to joyride-1496, and after rebooting my G1G1 XO cannot connect to my wireless router. After a while, the neigborhood view becomes completely blank. I didn't notice a Build announcement for 1496, but it is

Re: Project hosting application - TalknType

2008-01-03 Thread Joshua Minor
On Jan 3, 2008, at 7:16 AM, Tom Hannen wrote: 1. Project name : TalknType 2. Existing website, if any : http://wiki.laptop.org/go/TalknType Tom, this is very cool. I might be able to help out also. I made this toy that might go well with your spelling game. It is a front end

Re: root password

2008-01-03 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Jan 3, 2008 4:06 AM, Bernardo Innocenti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Albert Cahalan wrote: I quite like this Press ESC twice for shell solution. Reminds of the FidoNet era, if you're old enough to know what I'm talking about. Merely switching to the console should do the job. Linux provides

Re: Printing and the XO

2008-01-03 Thread Peter Krenesky
We didn't talk about which specific teachers or schools requested printing. JG or Walter would know, thats where that information came from. That *any* want printing makes it compelling enough. Greg Smith (gregmsmi) wrote: Hi Peter, Which teachers or schools have been asking for printing

New joyride build 1499

2008-01-03 Thread Build Announcer Script
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1499/ +iputils.i386 0:20070202-3.fc7 +libsysfs.i386 0:2.1.0-1.fc7 -olpc-library-core.noarch 0:1-15 +olpc-library-core.noarch 0:1-16 --- olpc-library-core.noarch 1-16 --- * Fixing header text as well * Fixing intro to the XO, text and

XO as a scientific platform: wiki page

2008-01-03 Thread David W Hogg
FWIW, I started a wiki page (on my research group wiki) about setting up my G1G1 XO for scientific writing on the road (and, eventually, research, but right now my job is to write a grant proposal on the XO as I travel around this weekend). http://howdy.physics.nyu.edu/index.php/Setting_up_an_XO

Re: XO as a scientific platform: wiki page

2008-01-03 Thread Marcus Leech
David W Hogg wrote: FWIW, I started a wiki page (on my research group wiki) about setting up my G1G1 XO for scientific writing on the road (and, eventually, research, but right now my job is to write a grant proposal on the XO as I travel around this weekend).

Re: loss of wireless after joyride-1496 update

2008-01-03 Thread David Woodhouse
On Thu, 2008-01-03 at 10:05 -0800, Dan Krejsa wrote: I (perhaps foolishly) updated to joyride-1496, and after rebooting my G1G1 XO cannot connect to my wireless router. After a while, the neigborhood view becomes completely blank. From a terminal, what happens when you run 'iwlist scan'? Can

RE: Printing and the XO

2008-01-03 Thread david
On Thu, 3 Jan 2008, Greg Smith (gregmsmi) wrote: Which teachers or schools have been asking for printing support? If we can add some documentation on that to the Wiki it will help a lot. for some schools (like Birmingham, Alabama) they won't ask for printing support becous ethey won't imagine

Re: XO Xorg.log

2008-01-03 Thread Jordan Crouse
On 03/01/08 18:41 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: for several versions (650, 653, joyride 1489, 1495, 1498) I've been noticing errors on the boot console from X. some of these are due to errors in other software (the 'invalid filter 1' errors), but there are a surprising number of errors

Re: XO Xorg.log

2008-01-03 Thread david
On Thu, 3 Jan 2008, Jordan Crouse wrote: On 03/01/08 18:41 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: for several versions (650, 653, joyride 1489, 1495, 1498) I've been noticing errors on the boot console from X. some of these are due to errors in other software (the 'invalid filter 1' errors), but

Re: Printing and the XO

2008-01-03 Thread Kent Loobey
Which teachers or schools have been asking for printing support? A few years ago I went to a tech for education conference in Portland Oregon. The teachers at that conference only wanted programs that had the ability to print out student work. Printing is necessary for the public display of

Log of Software meeting, 2008-01-03

2008-01-03 Thread Mitch Bradley
[16:00] *** now talking in #olpc-meeting [16:01] Mitch_Bradley Happy New Year, everyone. [16:02] m_stone hear, hear. [16:02] cjb You too. [16:02] jg evening all. [16:02] jg 'appy new year [16:03] jg Mitch_Bradley: I gather you don't have to deal with our intel friends anymore [16:03] cjb I

New joyride build 1500

2008-01-03 Thread Build Announcer Script
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1500/ -ohm.i386 0:0.1.1-5.9.20071213git.fc7 +ohm.i386 0:0.1.1-6.0.20080102git.fc7 --- ohm.i386 0.1.1-6.0.20080102git.fc7 --- - Remove initscript completely; inittab will handle ohm now. - Rebase. -- This email was automatically

Re: XO as a scientific platform: wiki page

2008-01-03 Thread M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
David W Hogg wrote: FWIW, I started a wiki page (on my research group wiki) about setting up my G1G1 XO for scientific writing on the road (and, eventually, research, but right now my job is to write a grant proposal on the XO as I travel around this weekend).

Re: New joyride build 1500

2008-01-03 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, --- ohm.i386 0.1.1-6.0.20080102git.fc7 --- - Remove initscript completely; inittab will handle ohm now. - Rebase. This is the RPM specfile changelog rather than my ChangeLog entry, which is: * #5400: Restart OHM when X crashes. * #5468: OHM no longer disables itself on AC.

Re: shutting off wireless for air travel

2008-01-03 Thread M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
Mitch Bradley wrote: This is all documented on the wiki. See: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Airplane_mode and http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Support_FAQ#How_do_I_disable_wireless_when_flying.3F If you don't want the wireless to restart automatically after a reboot, renaming

Re: Adding content to the XO

2008-01-03 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
quote who=Eric Van Hensbergen date=Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 10:48:21AM -0600 Strange. It should exist or should be created when you try to install an XOL. Yes - the download seemed to succeed, but the content never showed up, so I was trying to fault isolate. It'd be really nice for someone

Re: Printing et al.

2008-01-03 Thread Ed Montgomery
Having been a computer teacher for several years, I set up a network printer for those teachers who requested it, (but it was a CONSTANT hassle, from paper jam problems, to misconfiguration, toner cartridges, etc. I got around the problem by handing off the problems to windows techs, which left