Re: #9318 NORM 1.5-ATe: Via framebuffer failure on 1.5

2009-06-03 Thread Chris Ball
Hi Harald, this means you need to boot with vmalloc=something-bigger. The framebuffer needs to be vmalloc'ed. So if you have a relatively small amount of RAM, and the BIOS is configured for 256MB framebuffer size, the kernel-selected vmalloc area is smaller than what we need

Re: #9318 NORM 1.5-ATe: Via framebuffer failure on 1.5

2009-06-03 Thread Harald Welte
Hi Chris, On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 01:59:41AM -0400, Chris Ball wrote: Hi Harald, this means you need to boot with vmalloc=something-bigger. The framebuffer needs to be vmalloc'ed. So if you have a relatively small amount of RAM, and the BIOS is configured for 256MB

Re: Bootloader question

2009-06-03 Thread Peter Robinson
Don't believe everything you read on a wiki. OFW has included support for partitioned NAND since the first production shipments, dating back to January 2008.  The idea is to have a small boot partition that can be in any format that OFW supports - JFFS2, ext2, FAT, or even a .zip archive.  

Re: Bootloader question

2009-06-03 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: What version of XO software are you running? Have you tried SOAS or one of the F11/rawhide test images to see if that improves speed at all over 8.2.1? SoaS boot on XO-1 hw is fairly slow, but as you say it has more

Re: Videos of XO 1.5 in Taipei

2009-06-03 Thread Tiago Marques
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 10:51 PM, da...@lang.hm wrote: On Tue, 2 Jun 2009, Tiago Marques wrote: Hi all, I have some questions to whom might be able to answer them. It would be cool to have that 2nd SD card slot(?) at the top available in the final design, are you considering that option?

Re: Videos of XO 1.5 in Taipei

2009-06-03 Thread James Cameron
On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 12:26:34PM +0100, Tiago Marques wrote: I would have some uses for the slot, even if internal, like a SWAP device. Even after the massive memory and flash size increase? -- James Cameronmailto:qu...@us.netrek.org http://quozl.netrek.org/

XO frequently hangs on shutdown w/ 0.82

2009-06-03 Thread Bryan Berry
I am curious if a number of other deployments have encountered this problem or just us. We find that the XO occasionally hangs on shutdown. We are using 0.82 I have created a ticket for this http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9319 I realize that OLPC has roughly zero resources to fix problems like

Re: XO frequently hangs on shutdown w/ 0.82

2009-06-03 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 14:21, Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org wrote: I am curious if a number of other deployments have encountered this problem or just us. We find that the XO occasionally hangs on shutdown. We are using 0.82 I have created a ticket for this

Re: XO frequently hangs on shutdown w/ 0.82

2009-06-03 Thread Paul Fox
bryan wrote: I am curious if a number of other deployments have encountered this problem or just us. We find that the XO occasionally hangs on shutdown. We are using 0.82 I have created a ticket for this http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9319 I realize that OLPC has roughly zero

Re: Videos of XO 1.5 in Taipei

2009-06-03 Thread Tiago Marques
Yes, mostly as a safety precaution, especially when there will be a full fledged Gnome Desktop and other heavier applications. The on-board flash is a terrible place to accomodate SWAP, unless we end up with 8GiB and proper wear levelling for the flash blocks. 1GB is a lot more than I would expect

Re: XO frequently hangs on shutdown w/ 0.82

2009-06-03 Thread Daniel Drake
2009/6/3 Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org: Maybe you are seeing the issue discussed here? http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2009-May/024414.html I think so too, but an explanation of what is on the screen at the point of the hang would not go amiss. My tentative plans are to roll

Re: XO frequently hangs on shutdown w/ 0.82

2009-06-03 Thread Paul Fox
daniel wrote: 2009/6/3 Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org: Maybe you are seeing the issue discussed here? http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2009-May/024414.html I think so too, but an explanation of what is on the screen at the point of the hang would not go amiss. My

Re: XO frequently hangs on shutdown w/ 0.82

2009-06-03 Thread Daniel Drake
2009/6/3 Bobby Powers bobbypow...@gmail.com: hey Dan, I tried to summarize the issues here: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Bootanim is there more I should address?  how would you avoid using VT_WAITACTIVE?  I have some free time, so I can try to fix these over the next few days. In similar

Re: XO frequently hangs on shutdown w/ 0.82

2009-06-03 Thread Peter Robinson
I tried to summarize the issues here: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Bootanim is there more I should address?  how would you avoid using VT_WAITACTIVE?  I have some free time, so I can try to fix these over the next few days. In similar fashion to this:

Re: XO frequently hangs on shutdown w/ 0.82

2009-06-03 Thread Paul Fox
peter wrote: I tried to summarize the issues here: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Bootanim is there more I should address?  how would you avoid using VT_WAITACTIVE?  I have some free time, so I can try to fix these over the next few days. In similar fashion to this:

Re: XO frequently hangs on shutdown w/ 0.82

2009-06-03 Thread Peter Robinson
  I tried to summarize the issues here:   http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Bootanim     is there more I should address?  how would you avoid using   VT_WAITACTIVE?  I have some free time, so I can try to fix these over   the next few days.     In similar fashion to this:    

Re: XO frequently hangs on shutdown w/ 0.82

2009-06-03 Thread Paul Fox
peter wrote: hi peter -- bootanim does both the boot-time animation and the shutdown ul-warning screen.  it does the boot animation in an extremely efficient manner, shaving 10 or 11 seconds off our current boot times: 10 or 11 seconds off what? the previous bootanim

Re: XO frequently hangs on shutdown w/ 0.82

2009-06-03 Thread Bobby Powers
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:   I tried to summarize the issues here:   http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Bootanim     is there more I should address?  how would you avoid using   VT_WAITACTIVE?  I have some free time, so I can try to fix these over  

Re: Videos of XO 1.5 in Taipei

2009-06-03 Thread Chris Ball
Hi Tiago, I have some questions to whom might be able to answer them. It would be cool to have that 2nd SD card slot(?) at the top available in the final design, are you considering that option? No. That's where the wifi module will go, connected (electrically, not mechanically) via

Re: Bootloader question (ext2/3 filesystem format evolution)

2009-06-03 Thread John Gilmore
I'm thinking about ext4, but I must confess that my experience with ext2 has been pretty frustrating. The ext2/3 on-disk format has sprouted many new features over time. Supporting people who plug in disks that are formatted with the latest fancy feature, then complain that an old

Re: Bootloader question

2009-06-03 Thread Mitch Bradley
Guylhem Aznar wrote: Approx timings from pressing on the power button on my test machine using an old 2.6.22 on a jffs2 partition 2 seconds with the screen turned off There is very little that can be done to reduce that 2 seconds, which is dominated by the time it takes to read the