Re: Killing activities when memory gets short

2010-08-08 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On 7 Aug 2010, at 21:08, Tiago Marques tiago...@gmail.com wrote: Just killing a random activity is a terrible idea becayse you don't want your product behaving like it's defective; the pop up idea is way more acceptable(and a lot better than having the system randomly behaving like it's

Re: Killing activities when memory gets short

2010-08-08 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Sent from my iPad On 8 Aug 2010, at 18:40, Tiago Marques tiago...@gmail.com wrote: Just killing a random activity is a terrible idea becayse you don't want your product behaving like it's defective; the pop up idea is way more acceptable(and a lot better than having the system randomly

Re: Killing activities when memory gets short

2010-08-08 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On 8 Aug 2010, at 18:40, Tiago Marques tiago...@gmail.com wrote: The idea of killing activities with the content closed seems ok but it would probably be a good idea to have a way to opt out of it for some apps. I'm thinking a PDF that may be left open on purpose to serve as reference to

Re: [Sugar-devel] Killing activities when memory gets short

2010-08-08 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On 8 Aug 2010, at 20:57, Lucian Branescu lucian.brane...@gmail.com wrote: Separating the activity from the service would help here. In the case of music, MPD would use a lot less memory than one of its GUIs. Right, I was thinking to something along these lines too. I'm not sure how the

Re: [Sugar-devel] UI experiments: pop-up menus and hot corners

2010-07-06 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On 6 Jul 2010, at 04:26, Gary Martin garycmar...@googlemail.com wrote: Pre-rendering is tricky as both stroke/fill colour, and image size are variable. I think Benjamin had this more or less working at some point, I don't remember why we didn't land it. Marco

Re: mkliveinitrd bug

2009-02-09 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Here are the problems I found so far: * console completely screwed up, which makes debugging a pain. * jffs2 related kernel trace while booting, does not seem to break things. * Network related kernel panic at the end. Sometimes halt the system, sometimes it doesn't. * X does not start for some

Re: Google summer of Code?

2009-02-09 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 10:35 PM, Samuel Klein s...@laptop.org wrote: Thanks Peter! OLPC are definitely participating tihs year. We should pull together a good list of both sugar and OLPC projects. On the OLPC wiki, this means updating two pages http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Summer_of_Code

Re: mkliveinitrd bug

2009-02-08 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote: Hi, Hello, I tracked down why rawhide does not boot from nand. Details in this bug report: Awesome, Marco! Thanks so much! As Peter suggested, I should look at getting nightly builds set up soon. Would you like to

mkliveinitrd bug

2009-02-07 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Hello, I tracked down why rawhide does not boot from nand. Details in this bug report: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=484496 I'm attaching the patch/hack I used to make it boot, in the case someone wants to give it a try. Next issue is the major console screw up... I have no clue

Re: mkliveinitrd bug

2009-02-07 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti marc...@sugarlabs.org wrote: I'm attaching the patch/hack I used to make it boot, in the case someone wants to give it a try. A repo with rpms is here: http://www.sugarlabs.org/~marco/initrd/ Marco

Fwd: Another Soas image for the XO

2009-02-06 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
-- Forwarded message -- From: Marco Pesenti Gritti marc...@sugarlabs.org Date: Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 10:29 AM Subject: Another Soas image for the XO To: Sugar-dev Devel sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org Cc: Sebastian Dziallas s...@fedoraproject.org, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com

Re: Mesh support very likely to miss Sugar 0.84

2009-02-01 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: Not sure who's able to contribute, but just wanted to wave a red flag here to warn that it's looking like any mesh support is very unlikely to make the 0.84 Sugar release, unless someone is interested/able to work on it:

Re: Mesh support very likely to miss Sugar 0.84

2009-02-01 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti marc...@sugarlabs.org wrote: There are two parts of the work. * Mesh support needs to be integrated into NetworkManager 0.7. Sjoerd started to work on it, but his patches are not upstream yet. The patches was proposed on the NetworkManager

Re: Soas snapshot

2009-01-29 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:28 AM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: Cool. Any tips as to what to do with these 2 on an XO? The only thing I've done with .img and .crc before is copy-nand from firmware – is it possible to run them from a usb stick without wiping nand or effecting the

Soas snapshot

2009-01-27 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
You can download the iso here: http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/snapshots/1/Soas-200901271941.iso Instructions on how to install it are here: http://sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick I also made an experimental image for the XO. It's not signed, so you will need security disabled, if you

Re: Backlight control

2009-01-24 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 5:23 AM, John Watlington w...@laptop.org wrote: What can I call from an activity (in python) to indicate that the backlight should be turned off ? I'm playing with a photoframe app, and want to have the ability to deliberately control the backlight level from the

Re: SoaS on the XO progress

2009-01-24 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 2:12 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti marc...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 10:41 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote: D'oh, I think OLPC asked Warren to push that X driver update, and it sounds like we didn't test it properly. Is there a good way to select

Re: Backlight control

2009-01-24 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 3:43 PM, p...@laptop.org wrote: but if ohmd is going to be in the middle, then the published api for requesting those changes should be more transparent than requiring every application be in python and have knowledge of dbus. There is no python dependency and I

Re: SoaS on the XO progress

2009-01-24 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 2:12 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti marc...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 10:41 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote: D'oh, I think OLPC asked Warren to push that X driver update, and it sounds like we didn't test it properly. Is there a good way to select

Re: Backlight control

2009-01-24 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 4:07 PM, p...@laptop.org wrote: right -- there's only a python dependency in that when someone asks how do i change the brightness, they're pointed to python code. :-) Well... Wad needed it for a python activity. And even if you need to write it in another language,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [ANNOUNCE] Sucrose 0.83.4 Development Release

2009-01-23 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: Some thoughts: - Because the commit message summary appears in the shortlog, it should be kept below 74 characters to avoid ugly wrapping. - Given the above, the word Closes: steals precious characters, and

Re: SoaS on the XO progress

2009-01-23 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:01 AM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote: I'm still not able to get the images I create to boot on the XO -- could you confirm that you're using the Fedora kernel and initrd? Yup, sure. The only difference is that the initrd contains more modules, because of the

Re: SoaS on the XO progress

2009-01-23 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Yay, stock F10 is now running GNOME fine. Some more things I found: * I was not using -a when copying the files, so owners and all kind of other stuff was not preserved. That's the cause of the hal failure, new script attached. * With selinux enabled you cannot login from the console. Perhaps

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS on the XO progress

2009-01-23 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 6:42 PM, C. Scott Ananian csc...@laptop.org wrote: On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti marc...@sugarlabs.org wrote: * rpm does not work. It complains about mmap failure when reading the db, jffs2 related? As far as I know, jffs2 doesn't support

Re: SoaS on the XO progress

2009-01-23 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 10:41 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote: D'oh, I think OLPC asked Warren to push that X driver update, and it sounds like we didn't test it properly. Is there a good way to select which version of an RPM to use in kickstart, maybe? Which package are you referring to

Re: SoaS on the XO progress

2009-01-21 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
1 haldaemon fails to start and I couldn't find any error log. Maybe running it directly, rather than via init, will expose the problem? When running it directly it was sitting for a while and then exiting without any error (even in verbose mode). I should strace it. It looks like you're

Re: SoaS on the XO progress

2009-01-21 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote: It looks like you're making F10 spins, then? I wonder what happens if you try a Rawhide spin instead. Could you share your instructions and code? I'd like to give this technique a try for our F11 rebase. * Clone

SoaS on the XO progress

2009-01-20 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Hello, I spent some time trying to get Sugar on a stick images (which are basically livecd-tools based Fedora spins) running on the XO from nand. Converting the image to jffs2 and adding cafe_nand and jffs2 to the initrd was enough to make it boot. I have two weird problems: 1 haldaemon fails

[Server-devel] Gadget fedora package

2008-12-11 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Just fyi, I submitted a gadget fedora package for review. It's going to require ejabberd 2.0.2. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=475971 Marco ___ Server-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel

Re: [Server-devel] Gadget fedora package

2008-12-11 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
This is really a question for Collabora :) Ccing them... On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 9:43 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just fyi, I submitted a gadget fedora package for review. It's going to require

Re: [Server-devel] Gadget fedora package

2008-12-11 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With the OMG! ejabberd's memory and roster mgmt are Out Of Control thing mostly behind us, I want to have a clear picture of why and how Gadget fits into the picture. And at what (cpu, memory) cost, specially

Re: [Server-devel] Gadget fedora package

2008-12-11 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note - I have *no* idea of what is that server running. But I'm working on this space at the moment - switching away from the all online users patch that I suspect Guillaume is talking about and shifting to a different

Re: xo activity idea

2008-12-03 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sugar Labs is working on creating an additional hosting system to ease the load for OLPC, but this hasn't happened yet. Bernie is on it. It will hopefully happen very soon. 2) Has this already been done for the xo?

Re: XO Feature Roadmap Meeting Minutes from November 26

2008-11-26 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:14 PM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Ed, Gary, Deepak, Ben, Caryl and possibly other met on IRC on Wed. November 25. Sorry to not have made this, still fighting with the jet lag here... - Feature Roadmap page and 9.1 planning

Re: F-10 joyride vs 8.2 - getting fixes upstream.

2008-11-18 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 7:39 PM, Daniel Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know how this will fly for already-overworked OLPC employees, but for me, I can work with that. It seem like Peter and the other Fedora guys are offering to help us poor overworked OLPC developers :) Marco

Re: [Techteam] dinner around cambridge on sunday

2008-11-15 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 12:43 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Marco and me compared our schedules for the next week trip and thought that, as we arrive a bit late on Sunday, may be a good idea to meet somewhere in Cambridge for dinner. So, what about meeting for having

Re: [IAEP] Tentative talk schedule: Nov 19

2008-11-14 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 3:10 AM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, if we can talk about at least some of these things in a parenthesis -- avoiding all the distractions -- let's do it. Otherwise, I'm happy to just have a beer with you. Let's make the most of what we have. Looking

Re: New joyride build 2544

2008-11-14 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 7:05 PM, Peter Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure but I'll add it to my list. The other thought that had come to mind. Is there a plan for this release to move from gnome-vfs to gio/gvfs (does OLPC even use it?). It feel off the radar but it's a good idea.

Re: New joyride build 2546

2008-11-13 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
2008/11/13 Dennis Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thursday 13 November 2008 04:20:25 pm Build Announcer v2 wrote: http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2546 Changes in build 2546 from build: 2544 This build boots and X starts and you can log in at a console. Thanks

Re: Rebase joyride to Fedora 10

2008-11-12 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Chris Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Awesome, one more thing: the last joyride build failed because it couldn't unstuck the loop6 device. Do you know what can be done to unstuck it? Perhaps telling autobuild to try again may do it? I think this

Re: Tentative talk schedule: Nov 19

2008-11-12 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 3:11 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I should have also included the information that Walter will be giving his 'Portfolio' talk at 9am on Friday. Just in case anyone was wondering about his absence from the above schedule. Oh, and we'll do our best to

Re: [IAEP] Tentative talk schedule: Nov 19

2008-11-12 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 3:07 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 4pm: Internationalization (Marco, C. Scott, possibly Saymindu by phone and/or cjb on language learning) I'm not giving talks about i18n :) Marco ___ Devel mailing list

Re: [IAEP] Tentative talk schedule: Nov 19

2008-11-12 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 3:07 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does this schedule seem reasonable to others? (Esp. those I've pencilled in for talks?) If you are going to be in town, made a 9.1 proposal (or forgot to), and aren't listed above, let me know. There is a lot of

Rebase joyride to Fedora 10

2008-11-11 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Hello, we are planning to rebase to Fedora 10 for OLPC 9.1 and we would better start on it asap. I'm not sure what needs to happen at the build system level exactly but my guess would be: * Create an OLPC-4 branch based on Fedora 10. * Create the various dist-olpc4-* tags. * Move pilgrim to use

Re: Rebase joyride to Fedora 10

2008-11-11 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Chris Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael and I are fine with the plan above -- it's the plan of record. We should go ahead and ask the Fedora folks to make these changes (and point Joyride at them); Marco, perhaps you could ask around in #fedora-admin for

Re: [sugar] add xcompmgr to the olpc-development stream builds

2008-11-11 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 4:52 AM, Bernie Innocenti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, I noticed we also run the window manager from there and it would make a lot of sense to keep the composing manager next to it. Some modern window managers even do both things. Perhaps these things should be

DeviceKit-power

2008-11-09 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
At first sight, it looks like what we need to give better power information: http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2008/11/09/gnome-power-manager-and-devicekit-power/ Marco ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: [sugar] Wrapping Sugar activities for other desktops

2008-11-08 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 2:21 PM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, our journal use model says that the document is picked before the app is called, so if we support $ sugar-wrapper Write.xo mydocument.rtf then we're done. (Again, I might be extraordinarily naive about this :-)

Re: [sugar] Wrapping Sugar activities for other desktops

2008-11-08 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 6:45 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 2:21 PM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, our journal use model says that the document is picked before the app is called, so if we support $ sugar

Re: [sugar] Wrapping Sugar activities for other desktops

2008-11-08 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 10:56 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are two issues here: 1. I don't know how the inner workings are designed, but as a Python activity author I never have to write a datastore call. My impression is that the Journal asks Rainbow's launcher

Re: [sugar] Wrapping Sugar activities for other desktops

2008-11-08 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 11:12 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My point is simply that we could create a very thin dummy layer that provides the launcher API and datastore API but implements them very simply. For example, the object selector would simply pop up the GTK

Re: [sugar] Wrapping Sugar activities for other desktops

2008-11-07 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 7:32 AM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thinking about how to extend the appeal (and long term viability!) of sugar activities, one thing that appears as a clear opportunity is to create a wrapper that allows to run sugar activities in a conventional

Re: Sucrose 0.83.1 Development Release

2008-11-04 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 9:15 PM, Mikus Grinbergs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At noon Nov 4 I'm viewing the amount of 0.83 available in Joyride (it's approximately zero) as indicative of the consideration being shown by the Sugarlabs and the OLPC communities to those who are not running jhbuild.

Re: setup for XO development

2008-11-02 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Bobby Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: very interesting. you mentioned working to integrate rainbow with sugar-jhbuid. It seems like that should be using this native version. If we're not using the d-bus daemon, would we then have to start jhbuild with

Re: Allowing an activity to be launched multiple times in parallel

2008-10-29 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 11:31 PM, Asheesh Laroia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a general sugar UI question: My activity, License, a simple comic book reader http://wiki.laptop.org/go/License that has a license chooser aspect to it, can be launched multiple times if clicked multiple times

Re: Allowing an activity to be launched multiple times in parallel

2008-10-29 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 12:31 AM, Asheesh Laroia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 30 Oct 2008, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: We have a ticket which proposes to switch to single instance by default, while still allowing the user to choose to open a separate one if he wants. Cool

Re: Allowing an activity to be launched multiple times in parallel

2008-10-29 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 12:40 AM, Benjamin M. Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Asheesh Laroia wrote: I have a general sugar UI question: My activity, License, a simple comic book reader http://wiki.laptop.org/go/License that has a license

Re: Allowing an activity to be launched multiple times in parallel

2008-10-29 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 1:06 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 29 Oct 2008, Carol Hussein Lerche wrote: I don't disagree with the need to speed up the system. However, browsing with multiple tabs is a well known solution to the problem of having multiple browser instances open, and we

Re: Allowing an activity to be launched multiple times in parallel

2008-10-29 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 1:23 AM, Benjamin M. Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2. A key feature of the Sugar Activity system is that writing Activities is _easy_. The goal is to minimize the amount of work required to write an Activity. Asking Activity authors to juggle multiple virtual

9.1 Proposal: Sugar as an upstream project

2008-10-28 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
I would like to give a try to explaining *why* I think we need to establish Sugar as an independent upstream project and to discuss a roadmap on *how* to gradually get there. Given the strong feelings and the complexity of the issue, I'm willing to give the talk only if we will be present in

Firefox/Xulrunner memory related crashes

2008-10-24 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Hello, I spent some time looking into the various tickets about oom and BadAlloc crashes in trac today. Here is a summary of the problems. A) There is a bug in cairo which causes BadAlloc on very big images. Fixes are in 1.8 and should be possible to backport to 1.6.4. B) Xulrunner renders

9.1 Proposal: Compatibility with desktop applications

2008-10-23 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Two high level goals: * Make desktop applications run without modifications in the Sugar shell and integrate as much as possible with it. * Make activities run on a standard desktop, as long as the required services are installed. Problems we need to solve to make this possible: * Our icon

9.1 Proposal: Top five performance problems

2008-10-23 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Problems and ideas in no particular order. * Sugar shell startup is too slow. Reduce dependencies, single process shell, modularize and delay initialization of components which are not immediately necessary, measure constantly to avoid regressions and monitor progress. * Icons rendering is slow

Re: 9.1 Proposal: Top five performance problems

2008-10-23 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 1:56 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Activity startup is ridiculously slow. Design an API incompatible Activity class. Start from a very basic window and add functionalities on the top of it, trying to not regress startup time. Make sure

Joyride seems stuck

2008-10-19 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Hello, I pushed two packages yesterday but no joyride build was made. Did we disable automatic builds? Marco ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: simple hacks to improve the performance of the Sugar UI

2008-10-18 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 7:35 AM, Andrés Ambrois [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Just a couple of notes. [PATCH] sugar-homewindow-no-transition.patch This removes the usage of TransitionBox from HomeWindow.py. TransitionBox is used to animate the Xo Guy while moving between zoom levels. This

Re: simple hacks to improve the performance of the Sugar UI

2008-10-18 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 7:35 AM, Andrés Ambrois [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Just a couple of notes. [PATCH] sugar-homewindow-no-transition.patch This removes the usage of TransitionBox from HomeWindow.py

Re: 9.1 Proposal: Legacy compatibility.

2008-10-17 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 9:07 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * making sugar behave well when run in non-full-screen-mode under metacity. This includes refactoring home/friends/mesh view as operations on root window, so they make sense in a multiwindow setup. (It's been

Re: [sugar] Joyride is open for development!

2008-10-17 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 9:14 PM, Chris Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The current plan is to wait until F10 is released (end of November) before rebasing Joyride onto it. But the decision to rebase has been made? Thanks, Marco ___ Devel mailing list

Re: 9.1 Proposal: Legacy compatibility.

2008-10-17 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 9:23 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can we stop referring to anything non-sugary as a legacy app. i'd submit that we all use dozens of such apps every day, most of which are in no danger of going away anytime soon. :-) I'm using standard desktop applications :) Marco

Re: 9.1 Proposal: Legacy compatibility.

2008-10-17 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 9:36 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote Perhaps we could also investigate the use of the xdg utilities for managing mimetype associations and installing activities? Sugar already uses the xdg mime spec. I'm not sure to which utilities you are referring exactly

Re: 9.1 Proposal: Legacy compatibility.

2008-10-17 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 9:45 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps we could also investigate the use of the xdg utilities for managing mimetype associations and installing activities? Good point. I've

Re: Fedora 10 for 9.1.0?

2008-10-15 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Am 15.10.2008 um 01:19 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: the distro landscape has changed a bit in the last few years, is it worth considering a jump to Ubuntu if it has a better fit for your release cycle? at the very

Re: [sugar] 0.84/9.1 planning.

2008-10-13 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Just a couple of additions: * We should make sure to have a good summary of the actionable items produced during the meetings, post them to the larger community, gather feedback and consensus and finally add them to the SL roadmap. * It would be very beneficial to spend some time explaining SL

Fedora 10 for 9.1.0?

2008-10-12 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Hello, do we plan to rebase to F10 for 9.1.0? I'm asking because I'd need to know if I can depend on gtk 2.14... http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/sugar/2008-October/009194.html Marco ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org

Re: journal is hard (was Re: notes from the field - Mongolia)

2008-10-12 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 1:40 PM, elana langer [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: file artifacts in the journal--the process went something like this-insert a flash drive to the xo that has a lot of files on it from windows computer, they show up in journal, remove flash drive, erase many of the files on

Re: Workaround for #8155? (hard links in datastore for storing duplicate files)

2008-10-10 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
2008/10/10 Emiliano Pastorino [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, everyone. We would like to create a collection of books in pdf format (collection as in http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Collections) for kids in Uruguay, but we've seen that each time you open a book, a duplicate is created in datastore, despite

Re: [sugar] 0.84/9.1 planning.

2008-10-10 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 9:12 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Ed McNierney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It currently looks like the week of November 17 - 21 is our target for our planning meeting, so as to avoid travel during the (following) US

Re: [sugar] 0.84/9.1 planning.

2008-10-10 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 9:33 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 3:23 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just to clarify: like our mini-conferences in the past, the plan is to have at least three days full of talks and hacking, so that we all

Re: notes from the field - Mongolia

2008-10-09 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 2:10 AM, Deniz Kural [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: p.p.s Marco, you're a stuck-up asshole :) Nice to meet you, Deniz. Do you care to elaborate? Marco ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org

Re: [sugar] notes from the field - Mongolia

2008-10-09 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 2:36 AM, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin, Deniz, cool it, the pair of you. No more ad hominem attacks. You each owe the other an apology. And one to Marco, too. Thank you Edward, but no need for an apology. It's the funniest thing I heard in the last week,

Re: [sugar] Sugar USB testing

2008-10-08 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:02 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i _really_ think we need to make the XO base _and_ sugar be a place that developers are comfortable living in. our needs aren't quite the same as a school kid's, but i think there's a much bigger overlap than we often think. with the

Re: [sugar] notes from the field - Mongolia

2008-10-08 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 8:21 PM, Nia Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, MArco. I still think talking to Erik like that isn't very nice either:) Nia, this kind of flames are customary in a technical mailing list and I don't really think Erik should take personal offence about them. If you

Re: [sugar] notes from the field - Mongolia

2008-10-08 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 8:30 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 8:21 PM, Nia Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, MArco. I still think talking to Erik like that isn't very nice either:) Nia, this kind of flames are customary in a technical mailing

Re: Major power concern

2008-10-07 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 6:02 AM, John Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /usr/share/sugar/shell/view/devices/battery.py #TODO: make this less of an wild/educated guess minutes_remaining = int(current_level / 0.59) remaining_hourpart =

Joyride and 9.1 development

2008-10-07 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Hello, is joyride open for 9.1 development now? Marco ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: [sugar] notes from the field - Mongolia

2008-10-07 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am concerned that focusing on such systems is breaking simple use cases and causing problems for users in the field. I believe that this functionality is important, but do not agree that it should comprise the base layer

Re: [sugar] notes from the field - Mongolia

2008-10-07 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 6:33 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my mind the fundamental problem is that users aren't required to fully qualify names for their work. Doing so seems to lie outside of one of the core points of Sugar's design (There are no files, folders, or

Re: [sugar] notes from the field - Mongolia

2008-10-07 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 06:05:41PM +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 6:33 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How are we going to rectify the general slowness of our user interface? It may

Re: Error : Model for window 4195586 does not exist. (Using jh-build)

2008-10-04 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
2008/10/4 Naveen Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello I am using jh-build having sugar 0.83.x. I am running it on fedora 7. I have my code in pygtk. When i run it using terminal of jh-build, it works perfectly. But when i try to port my activity to sugar using setup.py and MANIFEST files etc.,

Re: candidate-765, Activities directory deleted while running Software Update

2008-09-28 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
I think I tracked it down, will comment on the ticket. Thanks for the detailed description! Marco On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 9:46 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While running software update for candidate-765 the Activities directory was deleted. This was not during the initial

Re: gcompris activities regression

2008-09-27 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 12:57 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I managed to track it down to this change in joyride 2421: -libxml2.i386 0:2.6.32-3.fc9 +libxml2.i386 0:2.7.1-1.fc9 I cannot say without debugging it further if it's gcompris or libxml2 fault. I added

Memory pressure (Re: Signed candidate-765 and gg-765-2 builds available for testing.)

2008-09-27 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Since everyone major concern is memory pressure especially with Browse, I did some comparison tests with Update.1. The results are somewhat surprising: os711 + g1g1 activity pack Startup: free 127 mb Min Browse: free 91 mb Max Browse: free 61 mb gg-765-2 Startup: free 129 mb Min Browse: free

Re: 764 is imminent

2008-09-26 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 3:30 AM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yup, we were getting several reports that kids accidentally pressed keys while at the Home screen (which auto-focuses the search field.).. Did we actually get reports from kids about this? There is a bug which causes key

gcompris activities regression

2008-09-26 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Hello, I managed to track it down to this change in joyride 2421: -libxml2.i386 0:2.6.32-3.fc9 +libxml2.i386 0:2.7.1-1.fc9 I cannot say without debugging it further if it's gcompris or libxml2 fault. I added Bruno in cc, which might know better. More info and a trace in the ticket:

Re: [sugar] Supporting desktop applications, extending the EWMH spec

2008-09-25 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 10:37 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My feeling is that metacity will be hard to upstream patches to, and it would be more work to get working 'right', since it's pretty much designed *not* to be extensible. I tend to think metacity upstream might take

Re: cerebro's memory usage

2008-09-23 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
761 and 762 have been released shortly after your mail. If you want to get in a new cerebro, you need to open a ticket, set his action to Approve for release and provide a changelog. This must be documented somewhere on the wiki but I can't find it right now. Marco On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 3:18

Re: G1G1v2 Activities

2008-09-20 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 4:02 AM, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 19 Sep 2008, at 22:50, C. Scott Ananian wrote: On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:01 PM, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, any hints would be much appreciated as to what this last remaining setup.py WARNING is

Re: New joyride build 2462

2008-09-20 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Build Announcer v2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2462 Changes in build 2462 from build: 2458 Size delta: 0.13M -sugar 0.82.7-1.olpc3 +sugar 0.82.8-1.olpc3 -sugar-toolkit 0.82.8-2.olpc3 +sugar-toolkit

Re: G1G1v2 Activities

2008-09-19 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 4:01 AM, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm showing my age here, but is bundle_id a replacement for service_name? Seem to be identical. Yeah, service_name is deprecated but they are basically the same thing. bundlebuilder should probably warn about it. Marco

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