Re: CIFS will be strategic in some settings, but not included in kernel

2008-08-25 Thread George Hunt
I wasn't really thinking that you folks doing the core software would have time for a UI of any kind right now. I think I could create an Activity which would be obsoleted once a WebDAV solution is in place. I've been wanting to create an Activity that would add value and bridge the MS-linux gap.

Re: CIFS will be strategic in some settings, but not included in kernel

2008-08-25 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 11:37 PM, George Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been wanting to create an Activity that would add value and bridge the MS-linux gap. I discovered that pyNeighborhood is open sourced, written in python, uses gtk, runs on the XO, discovers a diverse MS network, and in

Re: CIFS will be strategic in some settings, but not included in kernel

2008-08-25 Thread George Hunt
Martin, thanks for your thoughtful responses. I have a lot of reading to do to get up to speed on WebDAV, server discovery, jabber, etc. There are so many portable ways of doing things that it's not worth spending 5 miuntes in thinking about unportable solutions. I'm not sure I agree that a SMB

Re: CIFS will be strategic in some settings, but not included in kernel

2008-08-25 Thread david
On Mon, 25 Aug 2008, Martin Langhoff wrote: Printing will probably be handled via cups. We are missing a lot of infrastructure there (automagic configuration, quota mgmt, some admin tools, ui), and it does make sense to start building it. Just not using platform-specific tools - cups can take

Re: CIFS will be strategic in some settings, but not included in kernel

2008-08-25 Thread Gary Oberbrunner
George Hunt wrote: I think the interface should just work, without installing anything. But I realize this is a touchy subject. I'm willing to go along with the general thinking on the issue. I think a just works solution for M$ machines, i.e. SMB/CIFS, would be huge. Everyone knows how to

Re: CIFS will be strategic in some settings, but not included in kernel

2008-08-25 Thread Joel Rees
I'm debating with myself whether to send this, because I don't want to make people mad, with the result of closed minds, but sometimes you have to be politically incorrect: On Aug 26, 2008, at 5:24 AM, Gary Oberbrunner wrote: George Hunt wrote: I think the interface should just work,

Re: CIFS will be strategic in some settings, but not included in kernel

2008-08-25 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Joel Rees [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm debating with myself whether to send this, because I don't want to make people mad, with the result of closed minds, but sometimes you have to be politically incorrect: I think this will be resolved by whomever implements

Re: CIFS will be strategic in some settings, but not included in kernel

2008-08-25 Thread Robert Howard
My self and a number of G1G1 users, currently use boa for transferring files. It is a light weight web server. I see no need for SMB/CIFS . Now WebDAV sounds interesting. Now to clean up the copy to Journal and copy from Journal scripts On Aug 25, 2008, at 4:00 PM, Martin Langhoff

Re: CIFS will be strategic in some settings, but not included in kernel

2008-08-25 Thread Albert Cahalan
Martin Langhoff writes: In that sense, it is very simple - as a programmer, if I am going to spend significant time working on a feature like this I want it to 1 - work for the deployments - this is the most important thing! 2 - work for G1G1 users too - they are the donors and enthusiasts!

Re: CIFS will be strategic in some settings, but not included in kernel

2008-08-25 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 4:47 PM, Albert Cahalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1 - work for the deployments - this is the most important thing! 2 - work for G1G1 users too - they are the donors and enthusiasts! 3 - work for the developers - otherwise it won't get attention and bugfixes 4 - work in

CIFS will be strategic in some settings, but not included in kernel

2008-08-24 Thread George Hunt
Two factors tip the balance between bloat and functionality in favor of including CIFS file system in the kernel. 1. The decision to double boot some XOs with XP. 2. The need of IT professionals, in small roll-outs, to use the resources at hand (MS configured machines hooked up to

Re: CIFS will be strategic in some settings, but not included in kernel

2008-08-24 Thread Martin Langhoff
2008/8/24 George Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Two factors tip the balance between bloat and functionality in favor of including CIFS file system in the kernel. First, for any network FS to actually be usable we would need to do significant work on the UI. Including the smb client code is a trivial