Re: [support-gang] Customization Sticks fails on 13.1.0 12.1.0 for XO-1

2013-03-12 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
On 12 March 2013 01:26, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Richard A. Smith rich...@laptop.org wrote: Perhaps I don't understand but I don't see how OOB can work for a setup like Adam is describing in Haiti where they have laptops in the mix that are

Re: [support-gang] Customization Sticks fails on 13.1.0 12.1.0 for XO-1

2013-03-12 Thread John Gilmore
Wad said: Please don't redistribute secure laptops --- OLPC's policy since early 2009 has been to deprecate the security system. The exceptions have been deployments large enough to have dedicated support staff capable of handling their own keys. Richard said: That policy is fine but

Re: [support-gang] Customization Sticks fails on 13.1.0 12.1.0 for XO-1

2013-03-12 Thread Holt
On 3/12/2013 3:44 AM, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: On 12 March 2013 01:26, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org mailto:d...@laptop.org wrote: On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Richard A. Smith rich...@laptop.org mailto:rich...@laptop.org wrote: Perhaps I don't understand but I don't see how

Re: [support-gang] Customization Sticks fails on 13.1.0 12.1.0 for XO-1

2013-03-12 Thread Holt
On 3/11/2013 10:08 PM, John Watlington wrote: Please don't redistribute secure laptops --- OLPC's policy since early 2009 has been to deprecate the security system. The exceptions have been deployments large enough to have dedicated support staff capable of handling their own keys. I wish

Re: [support-gang] Customization Sticks fails on 13.1.0 12.1.0 for XO-1

2013-03-12 Thread James Cameron
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 09:36:36AM -0800, John Gilmore wrote: Can an upcoming signed software release automatically disable the anti-owner security system on old lockdown laptops? Any new, signed Forth release could look for the original OLPC signing keys and disable security on laptops that

Re: [support-gang] Customization Sticks fails on 13.1.0 12.1.0 for XO-1

2013-03-12 Thread John Watlington
On Mar 12, 2013, at 3:54 PM, Holt wrote: On 3/11/2013 10:08 PM, John Watlington wrote: Please don't redistribute secure laptops --- OLPC's policy since early 2009 has been to deprecate the security system. The exceptions have been deployments large enough to have dedicated support staff

Re: [support-gang] Customization Sticks fails on 13.1.0 12.1.0 for XO-1

2013-03-12 Thread James Cameron
At least use the collection stick on this trip, even if you don't get the unlock stick done this trip because of lack of network connectivity or time. The collection stick also saves you the bother of figuring out whether a laptop is locked. It does nothing on unlocked laptops unless the 'x'

Re: [support-gang] Customization Sticks fails on 13.1.0 12.1.0 for XO-1

2013-03-11 Thread Daniel Drake
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Richard A. Smith rich...@laptop.org wrote: Perhaps I don't understand but I don't see how OOB can work for a setup like Adam is describing in Haiti where they have laptops in the mix that are secure. Unless they first un-secure every laptop a custom OS build

Re: [support-gang] Customization Sticks fails on 13.1.0 12.1.0 for XO-1

2013-03-11 Thread Richard A. Smith
On 03/11/2013 10:26 AM, Daniel Drake wrote: would have to be signed by OLPC or Reuben would have to give them a Haiti key thats installed via keyjector. This is not a new situation for us, and the approach we have taken in the past is to help such deployments un-secure all of their laptops,

Re: [support-gang] Customization Sticks fails on 13.1.0 12.1.0 for XO-1

2013-03-11 Thread John Watlington
On Mar 11, 2013, at 1:54 PM, Richard A. Smith wrote: On 03/11/2013 10:26 AM, Daniel Drake wrote: would have to be signed by OLPC or Reuben would have to give them a Haiti key thats installed via keyjector. This is not a new situation for us, and the approach we have taken in the past is

Re: [support-gang] Customization Sticks fails on 13.1.0 12.1.0 for XO-1

2013-03-11 Thread Richard A. Smith
On 03/11/2013 10:08 PM, John Watlington wrote: Nod. Kejector for small deployments is new to me. I thought keyjector was only for special cases. I don't think most of the folks on say the support-gang list have any idea that keyjector is an option for them. I don't think it is an option.

Re: [support-gang] Customization Sticks fails on 13.1.0 12.1.0 for XO-1

2013-03-11 Thread John Watlington
On Mar 11, 2013, at 10:44 PM, Richard A. Smith wrote: On 03/11/2013 10:08 PM, John Watlington wrote: Please don't redistribute secure laptops --- OLPC's policy since early 2009 has been to deprecate the security system. The exceptions have been deployments large enough to have

Re: [support-gang] Customization Sticks fails on 13.1.0 12.1.0 for XO-1

2013-03-11 Thread Richard A. Smith
On 03/11/2013 10:48 PM, John Watlington wrote: That policy is fine but perhaps needs to be more visible to the people going into areas where secure laptops were distributed and we should try to be helpful to those people when they request developer keys. If someone isn't being helpful about

Re: [support-gang] Customization Sticks fails on 13.1.0 12.1.0 for XO-1

2013-03-10 Thread Richard A. Smith
On 03/09/2013 01:35 PM, Kevin Gordon wrote: I seem to remember from the devel list that martin and Daniel said there are no plans to re-enable it. The future is OOB. Chopping the list down to just devel@ for my comments. Perhaps I don't understand but I don't see how OOB can work for a

Re: [support-gang] Customization Sticks fails on 13.1.0 12.1.0 for XO-1

2013-03-10 Thread Jerry Vonau
On Sun, 2013-03-10 at 14:58 -0400, Richard A. Smith wrote: On 03/09/2013 01:35 PM, Kevin Gordon wrote: I seem to remember from the devel list that martin and Daniel said there are no plans to re-enable it. The future is OOB. Chopping the list down to just devel@ for my comments.

Re: [support-gang] Customization Sticks fails on 13.1.0 12.1.0 for XO-1

2013-03-10 Thread James Cameron
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 02:58:02PM -0400, Richard A. Smith wrote: On 03/09/2013 01:35 PM, Kevin Gordon wrote: I seem to remember from the devel list that martin and Daniel said there are no plans to re-enable it. The future is OOB. Chopping the list down to just devel@ for my comments.

Re: [support-gang] Customization Sticks fails on 13.1.0 12.1.0 for XO-1

2013-03-09 Thread George Hunt
Thanks Kevin, I think choice 2 is the best given the current situation. I've never done an OOB build, I don't have any secured XO-1.0 laptops to verify the signing process. There's an extreme urgency to meet a Wednesday deadline, and I've got some other priorities to deal with before leaving,

Re: [support-gang] Customization Sticks fails on 13.1.0 12.1.0 for XO-1

2013-03-09 Thread Holt
These Haiti's laptops are a mix of secured and unsecured XO-1s. They are Give1Get1 redonations, mostly running Release 10.1.3 untouched, we'll be upgrading on the ground in Haiti within days. We'd love if the longstanding http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Customization_stick could be fixed on 13.1.0

Re: [support-gang] Customization Sticks fails on 13.1.0 12.1.0 for XO-1

2013-03-09 Thread Kevin Gordon
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