On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 10:21 AM, Albert Cahalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 3:47 AM, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Albert Cahalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Antoine van Gelder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 19 May 2008, at 19:21, Albert Cahalan wrote:
Are you serious? Are you really a Republican? No Child's Behind Left
is the worst disaster in education in decades, as John Holt would have
been the first to point out
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 8:10 PM, Alex Belits
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Eben Eliason wrote:
For what it's worth, I would be careful to portray the low-achievers
and the brightest as opposites. As I note below, I frequently find
that some of the brightest are also some of the low-achievers, due
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 11:39:11PM -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote:
Do remember that No Child Left Behind is actually working.
I don't pretend to be an expert, but certainly there are people who
dispute the effectiveness of NCLB.
http://nochildleft.com/
Walter Bender wrote:
The week culminated with an open-house where each teacher
presented a project they developed that integrated national curriculum
goals into an XO activity.
I think, this illustrated another, probably less fundamental but
practically important point -- if a country has
On 19 May 2008, at 19:21, Albert Cahalan wrote:
Are you serious? Are you really a Republican? No Child's Behind Left
is the worst disaster in education in decades, as John Holt would
have
been the first to point out if he had lived long enough. Who claims
that NCLB is raising skills, as
Edward Cherlin wrote:
You can't expect every kid to spontaneously
generate the sum of human knowledge by playing with plastic blocks.
You don't have the slightest idea what Constructionism is, as this
demonstrates.
Edward: as far as I remenber you told the same some time ago: do you
I did come to Peru (and plan on returning as well). I did participate
in seminars to introduce the Peruvian teachers to constructionism
within the context of Sugar and the national curriculum. I did not
find these seminars to be instructionist: they were very much hands-on
(the very first thing
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 3:47 AM, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Albert Cahalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry, people can't learn Constructionism simply by reading.
That is
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 6:28 AM, Martin Langhoff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 9:34 PM, Albert Cahalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Reason: it's not at all related to laptop computers
Fact: it's not universally valued by teachers
This *is* a project pushing the envelope.
Research of interest is cited here:
http://www.cited.org/index.aspx?page_id=151
On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Albert Cahalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 6:28 AM, Martin Langhoff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 9:34 PM, Albert Cahalan [EMAIL
Albert Cahalan wrote:
From what I can tell, constructionism (c13m) is a buzzword that
vaguely refers to an age-old teaching practice: learning by doing.
The idea appears to be extremely old, though not the norm. Ditching
the buzzword would be appreciated; it only serves to obfuscate.
From
On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Albert Cahalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 6:28 AM, Martin Langhoff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 9:34 PM, Albert Cahalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Constructionism might be a great idea. I have doubts, particularly
in a
On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Albert Cahalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 6:28 AM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Stop here, and please _read_ on constructionism. (Hint: most of the
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 12:41 PM, Albert Cahalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Albert Cahalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 6:28 AM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Monday 19 May 2008 12:16:40 am Albert Cahalan wrote:
From what I can tell, constructionism (c13m) is a buzzword that
vaguely refers to an age-old teaching practice: learning by doing.
The idea appears to be extremely old, though not the norm. Ditching
the buzzword would be appreciated; it
Albert Cahalan wrote:
Robert Myers writes:
The folks that are buying them, Ministries of Education, governments,
charities all have their own agendas. They do not necessarily line up
with the agendas of our real customers - children and educators, or our
own. If we have to give them some
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 2:24 AM, Sameer Verma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Albert Cahalan wrote:
Watch the video. XP boots fast,
What does a fast boot up have to do with the overall usability and
productivity of a system? You can always show a boot screen early in the
process and say its boots
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Albert Cahalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You don't need computers for constructionism. If pushing educational
theories of questionable value is your thing,
Can we stop beating constructionism for no reason, and without any facts?
First, a bit of debunking of the
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 4:14 AM, Martin Langhoff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Albert Cahalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You don't need computers for constructionism. If pushing educational
theories of questionable value is your thing,
Can we stop beating
Hi,
I remember to have heard some rumor about Microsoft considering to use
the internal NAND as swapping, thus killing any OS that may be
installed there.
This would mean that by dual-boot we are talking about having two SD
cards each with a different OS?
Regards,
Tomeu
On Sat, May 17, 2008
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 9:34 PM, Albert Cahalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Reason: it's not at all related to laptop computers
Fact: it's not universally valued by teachers
This *is* a project pushing the envelope. Waiting for universal
consensus is aiming for the lowest common denominator.
On Fri, 2008-05-16 at 17:32 -0500, Robert Myers wrote:
I just saw the Microsoft video of an XO running XP. In it the XO single
boots from an 'insyde' BIOS. The MS guy says that XP doesn't fit on the
flash, and is installed on an SD card. In this case, I'd guess the flash
is just being used
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 11:56:27AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
I remember to have heard some rumor about Microsoft considering to use
the internal NAND as swapping, thus killing any OS that may be
installed there.
That would be disappointing. Can OFW hide the internal NAND when booting
Windows
Martin Langhoff wrote:
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Albert Cahalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You don't need computers for constructionism. If pushing educational
theories of questionable value is your thing,
Can we stop beating constructionism for no reason, and without any
Martin Langhoff wrote:
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Albert Cahalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You don't need computers for constructionism. If pushing educational
theories of questionable value is your thing,
Can we stop beating constructionism for no reason, and without any
Albert Cahalan wrote:
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 2:24 AM, Sameer Verma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Albert Cahalan wrote:
Watch the video. XP boots fast,
What does a fast boot up have to do with the overall usability and
productivity of a system? You can always show a boot
Sameer Verma wrote:
The other thing that was strange was that when he captures video, the
camera light did not come on. Isn't the camera wired in series with the
LED? If that's the case then the LED should be on...or the video was
edited post production.
Probably it is old hardware.
Richard A. Smith wrote:
Sameer Verma wrote:
The other thing that was strange was that when he captures video, the
camera light did not come on. Isn't the camera wired in series with
the
LED? If that's the case then the LED should be on...or the video was
edited post production.
Sameer Verma sverma at sfsu.edu writes:
Yeah, its probably #1. Boot up times become moot if children simply rely
on suspend and resume with topping up the battery whenever possible. Its
the actual performance of the environment that really matters.
I would say both are important in a
That is exactly what happened in my daughter's class. Scenario is: small
child experiences a problem. Adult is supervising multiple children and
answering questions, unable to spend 5 minutes focussing on one child's
wedged XO. Rebooting deterministically recovers from problems (resets to a
There's a lot of discussion about whether OLPC is an education project,
or a laptop project. Many folks here think that recent developments show
that the balance is tipped to the latter rather than the former.
It's neither. It's a _sales_ project. If people don't buy them, it
doesn't matter
There is an underlying assertion in your post (and much of the press
coverage of the Windows XP announcement) that the XO has not been
selling well to date. I would assert that 600K units in the first 6
months is pretty good by most measures. It is a far cry from the 100M
units that Nicholas
On Fri, 16 May 2008, Walter Bender wrote:
There is an underlying assertion in your post (and much of the press
coverage of the Windows XP announcement) that the XO has not been
selling well to date. I would assert that 600K units in the first 6
months is pretty good by most measures. It is a
I received Mr Bender's reply off list. I replied privately, as it came
off list. I now see that Mr. Bender sent his reply to the list, so I'm
forwarding my reply to him to the list too.
Bob
Original Message
Subject: Re: XP on OLPC - a contrarian view
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 15
. Bender sent his reply to the list, so I'm
forwarding my reply to him to the list too.
Bob
Original Message
Subject: Re: XP on OLPC - a contrarian view
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 15:08:24 -0500
From: Robert Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Walter Bender
Walter Bender wrote:
There is an underlying assertion in your post (and much of the press
coverage of the Windows XP announcement) that the XO has not been
selling well to date. I would assert that 600K units in the first 6
months is pretty good by most measures.
I understand from press
Ok, Here's where it gets scary.
That being said, I believe Bill G is a prime example of 'Daniel
Plainview' capitalism -- it's not enough for him to win, everyone
else has to lose. So OLPC has to be careful.
NN said in his release
Open Firmware V2, the free and open source BIOS, is now
Robert Myers rmyers7 at mindspring.com writes:
I just saw the Microsoft video of an XO running XP. In it the XO single
boots from an 'insyde' BIOS. The MS guy says that XP doesn't fit on the
flash, and is installed on an SD card. In this case, I'd guess the flash
is just being used as a
Robert Myers wrote:
I just saw the Microsoft video of an XO running XP. In it the XO single
boots from an 'insyde' BIOS. The MS guy says that XP doesn't fit on the
flash, and is installed on an SD card. In this case, I'd guess the flash
is just being used as a home for the BIOS.
The
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 12:40 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There is an underlying assertion in your post (and much of the press
coverage of the Windows XP announcement) that the XO has not been
selling well to date. I would assert that 600K units in the first 6
months is pretty
Richard,
Sorry.
1) I knew about the separate memory for the firmware. I've reloaded it
often enough :-). I was more interested in publishing that thinking
deeply about how the XO works.
2) Again, sorry about my loose use of language. I should know better,
and try to be more precise. However,
Robert Myers writes:
The folks that are buying them, Ministries of Education, governments,
charities all have their own agendas. They do not necessarily line up
with the agendas of our real customers - children and educators, or our
own. If we have to give them some of what they want, so that
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