Re: update mechanism for new releases

2009-06-24 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 8:01 PM, Daniel Draked...@laptop.org wrote: For the upcoming XO-1.5 software build (which will hopefully make it onto XO-1 in the near future), do we want to ship olpc-update or use standard Fedora technologies? Due to the fedora lists' draconian 'reply-to' settings,

Re: rpm vs xo activity updates

2009-06-24 Thread Peter Robinson
Just a quick summary of a discussion and a decision that we reached on IRC, which will hold at least for now with our XO-1.5 software builds. Further input is welcome, although this is at risk of starting another huge discussion... Question: In the early XO-1.5 OS builds right now, we have a

Re: rpm vs xo activity updates

2009-06-24 Thread Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)
- rpm-based packages cannot be updated with Sugar's updater utility, which is the primary way for updating activities right now. There is no upgrade path for activities installed by rpms (without updating the whole OS, which is another open question) You can update only one activity with: #

Re: rpm vs xo activity updates

2009-06-24 Thread Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)
Can you expand on this idea? My main complaint with what I've seen from previous non-OLPC mechanisms is that root/super-user privileges are required. We can wrap any old CLI in a shiny, pretty, GUI. But it needs to work in a sane, safe way without passwords for small human beings. If I'm not

Re: update mechanism for new releases

2009-06-24 Thread Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)
The main point, where olpc-update wins without a shadow of a doubt, is failure-friendliness. Assuming a fail-safe filesystem, olpc-update can be interrupted (hard) at any point, might take N runs to complete. And will only switch to the 'new' image once it's completed in an atomic operation.

Re: SocialCalc 0.8.3g version release

2009-06-24 Thread Claudia Urrea
Bastian, we have not started localozation.. will soon! I have the instructions for sensors. I will be sending things soon!! Best, Claudia On 6/23/09, Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.com wrote: Claudia Urrea clau...@laptop.org writes: Congratulation on a great work. I look forward to the

Re: update mechanism for new releases

2009-06-24 Thread Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)
For the upcoming XO-1.5 software build (which will hopefully make it onto XO-1 in the near future), do we want to ship olpc-update or use standard Fedora technologies? Due to the fedora lists' draconian 'reply-to' settings, the thread has now moved to fedora-devel. Just mentioning it so

[SugarLabsPR-en] Sugar Labs Announces Immediate Availability of Sugar on a Stick; Learning Platform Runs on Any PC or Netbook In The Classroom

2009-06-24 Thread p...@sugarlabs.org
Sugar Labs Announces Immediate Availability of Sugar on a Stick; Learning Platform Runs on Any PC or Netbook In The Classroom LinuxTag, Berlin, June 24, 2009: Sugar Labs™, nonprofit provider of the Sugar Learning Platform to over one-million children worldwide, announces the immediate

[Invitation] Activity Team Meeting @ Fri Jun 26 1pm – 2pm (devel@lists.laptop.org)

2009-06-24 Thread Frederick Grose
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Re: update mechanism for new releases

2009-06-24 Thread Peter Robinson
We have a bug open here which is a difficult question, in my opinion: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9349 For the upcoming XO-1.5 software build (which will hopefully make it onto XO-1 in the near future), do we want to ship olpc-update or use standard Fedora technologies? My unconclusive

Re: update mechanism for new releases

2009-06-24 Thread Peter Robinson
RPM is unfortunately a disaster in this space. If an rpm transaction fails, there are no sane ways to recover it. On XO-1 a full OS update transaction with rpm  will take a very long time, so it's highly likely that it will be interrupted. RPM and yum hackers treat this as an intractable

xs-activation updates

2009-06-24 Thread Martin Langhoff
I just published a new xs-activation rpm that wraps up all the recent work for around antitheft. A nice wikipage is in the works, but for now a quick summary will do: - serves over port 191, and http (using the OAT protocol) - serves root leases, and also serves delegated leases, created on

1.5 power management, input events, wakeup events

2009-06-24 Thread Paul Fox
i was mildly surprised today in a conversation with chris ball when he implied that the contents of our current (gen1) /sys/power directory would probably be going away in 1.5. or, more specifically, he said that arch/x86/kernel/olpc-pm.c would be going away, and that the wakeup_events and

Re: 1.5 power management, input events, wakeup events

2009-06-24 Thread Daniel Drake
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 15:08 -0400, Paul Fox wrote: the input devices /dev/input/event[012] (which currently report on power button, ebook, and lid events) are also implemented in olpc-pm.c -- i'm not sure what their fate might be. The end-user interface for those is unlikely to change much (if

stalled Fedora reviews

2009-06-24 Thread Peter Robinson
Hi All Just going through the package reviews in Fedora related to olpc/sugar. The following are either stalled or closed due to lack of response from the reporter. Thabit-fonts https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=462711 Thabit-fonts https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=461139

Re: rpm vs xo activity updates

2009-06-24 Thread Bryan Kearney
Daniel Drake wrote: - There is certainly room for improvement in future, but finding development time in the short term may be a bit tricky... or perhaps we will be able to raise community interest in making or implementing a plan for improvement... :) Daniel Have you looked at how ruby

[Server-devel] backup server

2009-06-24 Thread Rodolfo D. Arce S.
Hello: What should be backed up for a reintallation of the server? Or better yet, what would be the steps for backup and restore of the XS? I know that all backup files from laptops is saved in the /library/users directory, but all users and from the /etc/passwd? those are added through the