Re: Discovering the XOs local timezone in a bash script

2011-03-13 Thread Sascha Silbe
Excerpts from C. Scott Ananian's message of Sun Mar 13 04:06:56 +0100 2011: Last I knew we used standard Linux conventions for timezones and sugar called the standard Linux commands (via sudo) to set the timezone. Can you point me at that old code, please? (we currently use gconf [1], so Sugar

Re: Discovering the XOs local timezone in a bash script

2011-03-13 Thread Paul Fox
sascha wrote: Excerpts from C. Scott Ananian's message of Sun Mar 13 04:06:56 +0100 2011: Last I knew we used standard Linux conventions for timezones and sugar called the standard Linux commands (via sudo) to set the timezone. Can you point me at that old code, please? (we

Re: Discovering the XOs local timezone in a bash script

2011-03-13 Thread Sascha Silbe
Excerpts from Paul Fox's message of Sun Mar 13 13:04:30 +0100 2011: Can you point me at that old code, please? (we currently use gconf [1], so Sugar is decoupled from the rest of the system w.r.t. time zone). do you know why this is/was done? is it simply a matter of not wanting the

Re: 'menu' in OFW on an XO-1

2011-03-13 Thread Richard A. Smith
On 03/13/2011 01:15 AM, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: With firmware Q2E45 on an XO-1 (yes, I finally got it unlocked!), I type 'menu' at the ok prompt. On an XO-1.5, I get a very useful list of icons that run different hardware tests. On this XO-1, I only get an array of square outlines. The

Re: Discovering the XOs local timezone in a bash script

2011-03-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 10:21 PM, Samuel Greenfeld greenf...@laptop.org wrote: The XO image OLPC supplies defaults to UTC.   Users can select a time zone offset in Sugar if they want, but it is purely a numerical control All correct AFAIK. For background on why deployments are not setting the

Re: Discovering the XOs local timezone in a bash script

2011-03-13 Thread Daniel Drake
On 13 March 2011 03:21, Samuel Greenfeld greenf...@laptop.org wrote: Sugar reports only relative times in its core GUI, so I don't know how common it is for deployments or other users to actually change this setting.  Setting a time zone other than UTC with 10.1.3 and prior may also expose a

Re: 'menu' in OFW on an XO-1

2011-03-13 Thread Mitch Bradley
On 3/13/2011 8:09 AM, Richard A. Smith wrote: On 03/13/2011 01:15 AM, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: With firmware Q2E45 on an XO-1 (yes, I finally got it unlocked!), I type 'menu' at the ok prompt. On an XO-1.5, I get a very useful list of icons that run different hardware tests. On this XO-1,

Re: Discovering the XOs local timezone in a bash script

2011-03-13 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I apologize; I think the code that sets timezone correctly might have been code I wrote for litl, not OLPC. --scott On Sunday, March 13, 2011, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: On 13 March 2011 03:21, Samuel Greenfeld greenf...@laptop.org wrote: Sugar reports only relative times in its core

Re: Discovering the XOs local timezone in a bash script

2011-03-13 Thread Richard A. Smith
On 03/13/2011 11:15 AM, Daniel Drake wrote: On 13 March 2011 03:21, Samuel Greenfeldgreenf...@laptop.org wrote: Sugar reports only relative times in its core GUI, so I don't know how common it is for deployments or other users to actually change this setting. Setting a time zone other than

Re: 'menu' in OFW on an XO-1

2011-03-13 Thread Richard A. Smith
On 03/13/2011 11:21 AM, Mitch Bradley wrote: Not expected but not surprising. The graphical hardware tests/diagnostics were developed for the 1.5. In XO 1.0 we only had the text based tests. I suspect that the 1.5 graphics stuff came along for the ride when we started building newer XO-1

Re: Discovering the XOs local timezone in a bash script

2011-03-13 Thread Daniel Drake
On 13 March 2011 15:49, Richard A. Smith rich...@laptop.org wrote: Thanks for clearing that up.  I've checked on build 860 and `date` reports the timezone selected via the control panel.  So that gives me what I need. That only applies when you're in the sugar environment though. If you're

Re: Discovering the XOs local timezone in a bash script

2011-03-13 Thread Richard A. Smith
On 03/13/2011 11:56 AM, Daniel Drake wrote: On 13 March 2011 15:49, Richard A. Smithrich...@laptop.org wrote: Thanks for clearing that up. I've checked on build 860 and `date` reports the timezone selected via the control panel. So that gives me what I need. That only applies when you're

Re: Memory replacement

2011-03-13 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Andrei Warkentin andr...@motorola.com wrote: Sorry to butt in, I think I'm missing most of the context herenevertheless... I'm curious, ignoring outer packaging and product names, if you look at cards with the same CID (i.e. same manfid/oemid/date/firmware

Re: Discovering the XOs local timezone in a bash script

2011-03-13 Thread Sascha Silbe
Excerpts from C. Scott Ananian's message of Sun Mar 13 16:41:36 +0100 2011: I apologize; I think the code that sets timezone correctly might have been code I wrote for litl, not OLPC. No problem. Do you remember how it worked at Litl? Did you manipulate /etc/timezone directly or using a distro

Re: Memory replacement

2011-03-13 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 1:00 PM, C. Scott Ananian csc...@laptop.org wrote: On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Andrei Warkentin andr...@motorola.com wrote: Sorry to butt in, I think I'm missing most of the context herenevertheless... I'm curious, ignoring outer packaging and product names,

Re: Discovering the XOs local timezone in a bash script

2011-03-13 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Sascha Silbe si...@activitycentral.com wrote: Excerpts from C. Scott Ananian's message of Sun Mar 13 16:41:36 +0100 2011: I apologize; I think the code that sets timezone correctly might have been code I wrote for litl, not OLPC. No problem. Do you remember

Re: Memory replacement

2011-03-13 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Sunday 13 March 2011 02:01:22 C. Scott Ananian wrote: On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Arnd Bergmann a...@arndb.de wrote: I've had four cards with a Sandisk label that had unusual characteristics and manufacturer/OEM IDs that refer to other companies, three Samsung (SM) and one unknown

Re: [Health] $30 microscope

2011-03-13 Thread Beth Santos
Neat. Cell phone technology? http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2011/03/diy-cellphone-microscope/ --- *Beth Santos* Outreach Coordinator Waveplace Foundation Tel: +1 610 797 3100 x 44 Fax: +1 610 797 3199 Cell: +1 603 661 1273 http://www.waveplace.org Waveplace on

Re: Memory replacement

2011-03-13 Thread Andrei Warkentin
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 7:01 PM, C. Scott Ananian csc...@laptop.org wrote: On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Arnd Bergmann a...@arndb.de wrote: I've had four cards with a Sandisk label that had unusual characteristics and manufacturer/OEM IDs that refer to other companies, three Samsung (SM)

Re: [Health] $30 microscope

2011-03-13 Thread Walter Bender
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Beth Santos b...@waveplace.org wrote: Neat. Cell phone technology? http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2011/03/diy-cellphone-microscope/ “It still amazes me how you can build near-research-grade instruments with cheap consumer electronics,” I guess people's idea

Re: Memory replacement

2011-03-13 Thread Richard A. Smith
On 03/13/2011 01:21 PM, Arnd Bergmann wrote: Do you have test results somewhere publically available? We are currently discussing adding some tweaks to the linux mmc drivers to detect cards with certain features, and to do some optimizations in the block layer for common ones.

Re: Memory replacement

2011-03-13 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
The tests have also helped expose other issues with things like sudden power off. In one case a SPO during a write would corrupt the card so badly it became useless. You could only recover them via a super secret tool from the manufacturer. Is there any sledgehammer process available to

XO-1 OFW occasionally has difficulty reading from my permanent SD card

2011-03-13 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
It may well be the quality of the non-high-priced SD cards I use, but with q2e42 and later OFW versions, when several specific XO-1s are booted, OFW will occasionally (but not consistently) time out when trying to read the developer key from the SD card. My usual bypass is to unplug all external

Re: XO-1 OFW occasionally has difficulty reading from my permanent SD card

2011-03-13 Thread James Cameron
G'day Mikus, Fristly, use disable-security so that the developer key is not required to be present. Is there a good reason for not disabling the security system? However, if you are booting the laptop from the SD card this may merely move the problem from developer key recognition to booting.

Re: XO-1 developer key does not work

2011-03-13 Thread James Cameron
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 03:46:02PM +1100, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: There are three main questions raised by this process: [...] 3. why must I wait 24 hours to get the developer key? Presuming you are asking about an OLPC developer key rather than a deployment developer key ... the delay