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Re: Announcement: Modification to the base XFree86(TM) license.

2004-01-31 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
Hi David ! On looking through the fbdev drivers in the Linux kernel source, I see very few cases where license notices from XFree86 driver source are included. This means that either the license for these drivers has no impact on the work you are talking about (making what you have written

Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] Re: [forum] Re: Announcement: Modification to the base XFree86(TM) license.

2004-01-31 Thread Andrew C Aitchison
On Fri, 30 Jan 2004, Sven Luther wrote: Yeah, that would be rather problematic, but anyway, most of the things move from the XFree86 code to fbdev code, and most often, it is not code that is copied, but the register information and such. It is always easier to get specs if you are working for

Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] Re: [forum] Re: Announcement: Modification to the base XFree86(TM) license.

2004-01-31 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 09:10:22AM +, Andrew C Aitchison wrote: On Fri, 30 Jan 2004, Sven Luther wrote: Yeah, that would be rather problematic, but anyway, most of the things move from the XFree86 code to fbdev code, and most often, it is not code that is copied, but the register

Re: [forum] Re: Announcement: Modification to the base XFree86(TM) license.

2004-01-31 Thread Thomas Winischhofer
Egbert Eich wrote: Sven Luther writes: Maybe a decision on both parts on this would be ok ? XFree86 could make sure the licence of the driver code would not conflict with the GPL, keeping the old one for example, and the fbdev driver authors would dual-licence the code, both GPL and the

Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] Re: [forum] Re: Announcement: Modification to the base XFree86(TM) license.

2004-01-31 Thread Thomas Winischhofer
Andrew C Aitchison wrote: As I remember it, the pertinent register information here was reverse engineered, so it is at least arguable that I'd be copying fbdev intellectual property here if I'd extracted and reused it. Perhaps I was wrong, but my understanding from my days in a software house

4.4.0-RC2 and ATI R280 - success

2004-01-31 Thread Torsten Duwe
Hi all, being a developer myself I know what it's like to only hear from people with problems and working setups being taken for granted. So instead I want to drop you this quick note. I was looking for the fastest (fanless :) 3D graphics supported by free software, and if they haven't

Manufacturers who fully disclosed specifications for agp cards?

2004-01-31 Thread Shaul Karl
Excluding Nvidia and ATI, for which I believe I know the answer, what manufacturers I am likely to see on ebay that: 1) Usually fully and freely publish the specifications of their AGP hardware. 2) Got themselves an X driver? As of the time of this writing,

Re: Manufacturers who fully disclosed specifications for agp cards?

2004-01-31 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 04:43:17PM +0200, Shaul Karl wrote: Excluding Nvidia and ATI, for which I believe I know the answer, what manufacturers I am likely to see on ebay that: 1) Usually fully and freely publish the specifications of their AGP hardware. 2) Got themselves

Fall back drivers?

2004-01-31 Thread Jerry Haltom
I've been thinking about how to make X more userfriendly. Driver nvidia,vesa Is a line like this possible, or could it be a good suggestion to implement? It would allow fallback from one driver to another in case the first doesn't function. One of the main complaints I've been hearing from

Re: Manufacturers who fully disclosed specifications for agp cards?

2004-01-31 Thread Alex Deucher
--- Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 04:43:17PM +0200, Shaul Karl wrote: Excluding Nvidia and ATI, for which I believe I know the answer, what manufacturers I am likely to see on ebay that: 1) Usually fully and freely publish the specifications of their

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Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] Re: [forum] Re: Announcement: Modification to the base XFree86(TM) license.

2004-01-31 Thread Mark Vojkovich
On Fri, 30 Jan 2004, Sven Luther wrote: On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 08:25:40PM +0100, Egbert Eich wrote: Sven Luther writes: Maybe a decision on both parts on this would be ok ? XFree86 could make sure the licence of the driver code would not conflict with the GPL, keeping the old

Re: Manufacturers who fully disclosed specifications for agp cards?

2004-01-31 Thread Ryan Underwood
On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 11:47:19AM -0800, Alex Deucher wrote: SMI (silicon motion) publishes full specs for their chips, however, I'm not sure you can find an agp card with an SMI chip on it. usually they are in notebooks and pdas. specs are also available for 3dfx chips. where is the

Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] Re: [forum] Re: Announcement: Modification to the base XFree86(TM) license.

2004-01-31 Thread Ryan Underwood
On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 09:10:22AM +, Andrew C Aitchison wrote: For several years the mga fb kernel driver has supported dual head and/or dvi on cards which aren't supported by the XFree86 driver (unless you use the mga_hal). I've wanted to use kernel code to add this support to

Re: Manufacturers who fully disclosed specifications for agp cards?

2004-01-31 Thread Ryan Underwood
On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 04:43:17PM +0200, Shaul Karl wrote: Excluding Nvidia and ATI, for which I believe I know the answer, what manufacturers I am likely to see on ebay that: 1) Usually fully and freely publish the specifications of their AGP hardware. 2) Got

RE: [Linux-fbdev-devel] Re: [forum] Re: Announcement: Modification to the base XFree86(TM) license.

2004-01-31 Thread Dr. Rich Murphey
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Vojkovich Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 3:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] Re: [forum] Re: Announcement: Modification to

Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] Re: [forum] Re: Announcement: Modification to the base XFree86(TM) license.

2004-01-31 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
The Author ? This is open source code; there may be 27 authors of the relevant file. In XFree86 code I wouldn't know how to find the author of a file without looking at that file. My {limited ,mis}understanding of clean room coding makes me wary of reading any source unless I know that its

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Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] Re: [forum] Re: Announcement: Modification to the base XFree86(TM) license.

2004-01-31 Thread Thomas Winischhofer
Dr. Rich Murphey wrote: You can take an XFree86 driver, regardless of what the copyright says, and completely rewrite it as an fbdev driver (which is what I believe usually happens) and this is not a violation of the XFree86 copyright or even of the GPL. Copyright doesn't apply to ideas or

Re: Fall back drivers?

2004-01-31 Thread Jerry Haltom
Ahh! I hadn't checked any of the work in 4.4 before I came up with this idea. This is wonderful. What about in the case of a broken driver where the X server is unable to start? One of the main problems I've seen Is when somebody breaks their X config, either by running some driver installation

Re: grep on Solaris

2004-01-31 Thread Roland Mainz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Building 4.4.0 RC2 on Solaris gives the following on Solaris for xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86 rm -f build.new echo #define BUILD_DATE `date +%Y%m%d` build.new echo #define CLOG_DATE `if tail CHANGELOG | grep -F -q '$XFree86:'; then tail CHANGELOG | grep -F

Re: Fall back drivers?

2004-01-31 Thread David Dawes
On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 05:32:33PM -0600, Jerry Haltom wrote: Ahh! I hadn't checked any of the work in 4.4 before I came up with this idea. This is wonderful. What about in the case of a broken driver where the X server is unable to start? One of the main problems I've seen Is when somebody

Re: Fall back drivers?

2004-01-31 Thread Thomas Winischhofer
Jerry Haltom wrote: Ahh! I hadn't checked any of the work in 4.4 before I came up with this idea. This is wonderful. What about in the case of a broken driver where the X server is unable to start? I don't know of any driver that is broken in a way that keeps XFree86 from starting. How the

Re: Fall back drivers?

2004-01-31 Thread David Dawes
On Sun, Feb 01, 2004 at 01:13:49AM +0100, Thomas Winischhofer wrote: Jerry Haltom wrote: Ahh! I hadn't checked any of the work in 4.4 before I came up with this idea. This is wonderful. What about in the case of a broken driver where the X server is unable to start? I don't know of any

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