RE: Starting XFree86 without an XF86Config file

2003-10-06 Thread Sottek, Matthew J
Fortunately XF86VidModeSetGammaRamp() and friends allow these values to be altered by any application while the server continues to run. This means that a configuration program can write the data to a file, then have a simple user-mode app run as part of the start-up script which reads the data

RE: Starting XFree86 without an XF86Config file

2003-10-05 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003, Sottek, Matthew J wrote: Absolutely nothing says that both can't co-exist. If the default tools try to allow configuration of everything, even some hardware specific things, they can try where possible and feasible to generalize these things, or in cases where that isn't

RE: Starting XFree86 without an XF86Config file

2003-10-03 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003, Sottek, Matthew J wrote: The thing is, a unified device-configuring front-end would be better than having every driver writer roll their own. (I mean, we can follow Windows if we want, but why incur development risk by developing what essentially is several versions of the

RE: Starting XFree86 without an XF86Config file

2003-10-03 Thread Sottek, Matthew J
Absolutely nothing says that both can't co-exist. If the default tools try to allow configuration of everything, even some hardware specific things, they can try where possible and feasible to generalize these things, or in cases where that isn't possible, they can provide hardware specific

Re: Starting XFree86 without an XF86Config file

2003-10-03 Thread Bryan W. Headley
Sottek, Matthew J wrote: What are you doing now? I assume this is a real product; what are you putting into the XF86Config file now? It was a hypothetical example. I don't know of a decent way to do it with XF86Config short of 256*3 Options. It's 3 curves of 256 datapoints. Floating point or

Re: Starting XFree86 without an XF86Config file

2003-10-03 Thread Tim Roberts
On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 15:55:47 -0500, Bryan W. Headley wrote: It's 3 curves of 256 datapoints. Floating point or integer. What you have to assume is that every point on the curve is grabbable, either through a spline curve widget, or something like datapoint [123]^ red [ 45] green [ 23] blue

Re: Starting XFree86 without an XF86Config file

2003-10-03 Thread Bryan W. Headley
Tim Roberts wrote: On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 15:55:47 -0500, Bryan W. Headley wrote: It's 3 curves of 256 datapoints. Floating point or integer. What you have to assume is that every point on the curve is grabbable, either through a spline curve widget, or something like datapoint [123]^ red [ 45]

Re: Starting XFree86 without an XF86Config file

2003-10-03 Thread Thomas Winischhofer
Tim Roberts wrote: On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 15:55:47 -0500, Bryan W. Headley wrote: It's 3 curves of 256 datapoints. Floating point or integer. What you have to assume is that every point on the curve is grabbable, either through a spline curve widget, or something like datapoint [123]^ red [ 45]

RE: Starting XFree86 without an XF86Config file

2003-10-02 Thread Sottek, Matthew J
] Subject: Starting XFree86 without an XF86Config file The first part of the work I'm doing to improve the XFree86 configuration experience for users is now available. Some details about it, and a link to the source patch can be found at http://www.x-oz.com/autoconfig.html. The goal of this first stage

Re: Starting XFree86 without an XF86Config file

2003-10-02 Thread Bryan W. Headley
Sottek, Matthew J wrote: The thing is, a unified device-configuring front-end would be better than having every driver writer roll their own. (I mean, we can follow Windows if we want, but why incur development risk by developing what essentially is several versions of the same thing?)

RE: Starting XFree86 without an XF86Config file

2003-10-02 Thread Sottek, Matthew J
You will never be able to create a GUI that covers everything that is configurable across a wide variety of vendor products... nor should you try. Not true. Look at the limited vocabulary you presently have in XF86Config: keywords, list-of-values, integers, bools. Bools map to radio buttons,

Re: Starting XFree86 without an XF86Config file

2003-10-02 Thread Bryan W. Headley
Sottek, Matthew J wrote: You will never be able to create a GUI that covers everything that is configurable across a wide variety of vendor products... nor should you try. Not true. Look at the limited vocabulary you presently have in XF86Config: keywords, list-of-values, integers, bools. Bools

Re: Starting XFree86 without an XF86Config file

2003-10-02 Thread Daniel Stone
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 02:34:42PM -0500, Bryan W. Headley wrote: Now, as to anyone who say, eww, it's Gtk, or it's Qt, or I hate Tk, I have only one thing to say to them: Athena Widgets. Jesus, no. The point of this is that it's meant to be *easy* and *simple*. This means that it should