Re: Making Fedora work with laptops on docking station with external monitor

2010-10-07 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Wed, Oct 06, 2010 at 02:31:22PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2010-10-06 at 23:32 +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: What's the worst thing that can happen when trusting the ACPI lid state? Think about this: - Laptop lid open (so internal lvds enabled), and also external

Re: fedpkg koji error

2010-10-07 Thread Pavel Alexeev (aka Pahan-Hubbitus)
Try verbose variant to figure out what happened: $ fedpkg -v scratch-build 06.10.2010 13:19, Farkas Levente wrote: hi, while try to make a scratch build i always got: - # fedpkg scratch-build Could not log into koji: Opening a SSL connection failed

Re: Firewall settings unworkable

2010-10-07 Thread Thomas Woerner
On 10/06/2010 08:31 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: Seems quite complex. What's wrong with a directory: /etc/iptables.d/ where RPMs like libvirt just drop the required additional rules (in a separate chain if you like) and restart the iptables service? It's low-tech but simple and it's

Re: Firewall settings unworkable

2010-10-07 Thread Thomas Woerner
On 10/07/2010 02:20 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: On 10/06/2010 11:26 AM, Thomas Woerner wrote: 6) Compatibility Mode The current static firewall model will still be available for compatibility for users or administrators creating their own firewall. This deactivates the firewall service and

Re: fedpkg koji error

2010-10-07 Thread Thomas Spura
On Wed, 06 Oct 2010 11:19:21 +0200 Farkas Levente wrote: hi, while try to make a scratch build i always got: - # fedpkg scratch-build Could not log into koji: Opening a SSL connection failed - even if i try to

Re: Firewall settings unworkable

2010-10-07 Thread Tim Waugh
On Wed, 2010-10-06 at 17:26 +0200, Thomas Woerner wrote: It is possible to specify a timeout for a firewall service and also the other features. The service will be opened immediately and closed again after the defined period is over. This allows to accept new connections from unknown

Re: Firewall settings unworkable

2010-10-07 Thread Tim Waugh
On Wed, 2010-10-06 at 19:31 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: Seems quite complex. What's wrong with a directory: /etc/iptables.d/ where RPMs like libvirt just drop the required additional rules (in a separate chain if you like) and restart the iptables service? It's low-tech but

Re: trademarks [was: xulrunner 2.0 in rawhide (F15) bundles several system libs]

2010-10-07 Thread Brandon Lozza
On 10/6/10, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, 2010-10-06 at 16:41 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: However, this here is Fedora, a project that once was aiming at Freedom - As trivial as it is, restrictive trademark policies simply do not fit into this philosophy. If we don't

Re: trademarks [was: xulrunner 2.0 in rawhide (F15) bundles several system libs]

2010-10-07 Thread Brandon Lozza
I think an exception should be made for Chromium too. Having a more secure browser would benefit the main repositories. On 10/7/10, Brandon Lozza bran...@pwnage.ca wrote: On 10/6/10, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, 2010-10-06 at 16:41 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: However,

rawhide report: 20101007 changes

2010-10-07 Thread Rawhide Report
2010 Vitezslav Crhonek vcrho...@redhat.com - 1.3.0-1 - Update to sblim-cmpi-params-1.3.0 - Remove CIMOM dependencies sepostgresql-9.0.1-20101007.fc15 * Thu Oct 07 2010 KaiGai Kohei kai...@kaigai.gr.jp - 9.0.1-20101007 - upgrade base version to 9.0.1 subversion

F-14 Branched report: 20101007 changes

2010-10-07 Thread Branched Report
Compose started at Thu Oct 7 13:15:30 UTC 2010 Broken deps for x86_64 -- almanah-0.7.3-3.fc14.x86_64 requires libedataserverui-1.2.so.10()(64bit) antlr3-python-3.1.2-7.fc14.noarch requires python(abi) = 0:2.6

Re: trademarks [was: xulrunner 2.0 in rawhide (F15) bundles several system libs]

2010-10-07 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 10/07/2010 08:36 AM, Brandon Lozza wrote: On 10/6/10, Adam Williamsonawill...@redhat.com wrote: If we don't protect the Fedora trademark, anyone can produce anything and call it 'Fedora'. Including something which doesn't fit into our philosophy of freedom at all. What are you guys

[perl-DateTime-Format-Natural] update to 0.90

2010-10-07 Thread Iain Arnell
commit c7c626e362a1a07ad20af64f9881c6a7dfcd2faf Author: Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com Date: Thu Oct 7 18:57:20 2010 +0200 update to 0.90 .gitignore|1 + perl-DateTime-Format-Natural.spec | 19 --- sources |2 +- 3

Yubikeys are now supported

2010-10-07 Thread Mike McGrath
The Fedora Infrastructure team is happy to announce support for the hardware key authentication device, the yubikey. Users will be able to use their own yubikeys to access some Fedora services, like fedorapeople.org or some web services. Why have we done this? The main purpose was to provide

[perl-DateTime-Format-Natural/f14/master] update to 0.90

2010-10-07 Thread Iain Arnell
Summary of changes: c7c626e... update to 0.90 (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-DateTime-Format-Natural/f13/master] update to 0.90

2010-10-07 Thread Iain Arnell
Summary of changes: c7c626e... update to 0.90 (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Making Fedora work with laptops on docking station with external monitor

2010-10-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 10:49 +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: that bug is already inconvenient for some people; if they have laptops with bad lid switches it'd be much more inconvenient. The only active display would be the external display they weren't actually using. I read that bugzilla

Re: trademarks [was: xulrunner 2.0 in rawhide (F15) bundles several system libs]

2010-10-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 08:36 -0400, Brandon Lozza wrote: What are you guys going to do if someone does it anyway in a country where Redhat hasn't registered the Fedora trademark, or countries where another country already owns the Fedora trademark. Do you think spammers are going to host in

Re: Review request: Nice-to-have bug process documentation proposal

2010-10-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 11:07 -0400, James Laska wrote: All of them. They're mostly modifications of existing pages. I'm not quite sure how you get that they look the same, they're very different. General note ... There are a few broken links on this page. I didn't inspect *all* of them,

Re: xulrunner 2.0 in rawhide (F15) bundles several system libs

2010-10-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 13:40 +, Matej Cepl wrote: Martin Sourada, Wed, 06 Oct 2010 22:39:00 +0200: But I have my doubts about mozilla in this regard, after all, proper support on linux does not seem to be high priority for them I just fell the urge to mention here

Re: Making Fedora work with laptops on docking station with external monitor

2010-10-07 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 10:17:11AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 10:49 +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: that bug is already inconvenient for some people; if they have laptops with bad lid switches it'd be much more inconvenient. The only active display would be the

Re: Making Fedora work with laptops on docking station with external monitor

2010-10-07 Thread Dan Horák
Pasi Kärkkäinen píše v Čt 07. 10. 2010 v 22:29 +0300: On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 10:17:11AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 10:49 +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: that bug is already inconvenient for some people; if they have laptops with bad lid switches it'd be much

Re: REVIEW/RFC: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Kevin/Updates_Policy_Draft

2010-10-07 Thread Till Maas
On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 01:03:13PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 22:21:33 +0200 Till Maas opensou...@till.name wrote: Also can someone please explain the practical advantages of requiring the autokarma threshold to approve the ability to push a non critical path update to

Re: Quick question on building f14 isos?

2010-10-07 Thread mike cloaked
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote: There was a change in glibc during the F14 development cycle that requires running a newer kernel in order to run the f14 binaries. You could probably cheat a new kernel onto F11 and then do the pungi compose in a mock

Re: Yubikeys are now supported

2010-10-07 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 12:04:49 -0500, Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote: We also decided to allow yubikeys as an authentication option for the larger community to some hosts and services like fedorapeople.org or https://admin.fedoraproject.org/community/. When asked for a password,

GNOME notification icons?

2010-10-07 Thread Jon Masters
Folks, On current rawhide (perhaps caused by upgrade from F14 beta), I'm getting a few weirdly broken icons for notification applets. Those applets then crash when moused over or clicked on with a SEGV that looks to be caused by it not finding the correct icon (I did file an ABRT bug last night

Re: Yubikeys are now supported

2010-10-07 Thread Mike McGrath
On Thu, 7 Oct 2010, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 12:04:49 -0500, Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote: We also decided to allow yubikeys as an authentication option for the larger community to some hosts and services like fedorapeople.org or

Re: Yubikeys are now supported

2010-10-07 Thread Paul Wouters
On Thu, 7 Oct 2010, Mike McGrath wrote: We also decided to allow yubikeys as an authentication option for the larger community to some hosts and services like fedorapeople.org or https://admin.fedoraproject.org/community/. When asked for a password, just use your yubikey to generate a otp

Re: Yubikeys are now supported

2010-10-07 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 12:04:49PM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: Implementation work continues to be discussed and put in please but please direct any questions or comments to #fedora-admin on irc.freenode.net or the Infrastructure mailing list - Hello, synchronicity! I was just looking at this

Re: Yubikeys are now supported

2010-10-07 Thread Camilo Mesias
I'm not a security expert but I understood that the usual way to use these keys was to have one server that the key authenticates with, and further sites would be accessible through openID or similar - so the authentication is always with one server. Using the same device with mutliple servers is

Re: Package rebuilds for gcc bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=634757

2010-10-07 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/6/10 1:44 AM, Tim Waugh wrote: On Tue, 2010-10-05 at 15:27 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: PPS I did not modify my bump script yet to attempt a commit to master and merge to the f14 branch. In the interest of time, I took the easy route and

Re: Package rebuilds for gcc bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=634757

2010-10-07 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/6/10 1:34 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: What happens in a case where the packager is about to push a new version, or there has been a rebuild since the 26th? In this case my script will detect a new build in either dist-f14-updates-candidate or

Re: Chain builds for non-rawhide

2010-10-07 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/5/10 2:30 PM, Mamoru Tasaka wrote: Well, how about creating dist-f14-for-chainbuild build target and allow people to tag or untag build as/from that tag freely? For example currently

Re: Yubikeys are now supported

2010-10-07 Thread Mike McLean
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Paul Wouters p...@xelerance.com wrote: I have one and I've played with it in fedora. There is however an important catch. The server and the yubikey share the same AES symmetric key. This means that if the yubikey is used for multiple sites by one user, that user

Re: Yubikeys are now supported

2010-10-07 Thread Garrett Holmstrom
On 10/7/2010 12:04, Mike McGrath wrote: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastruture/Yubikey ^^ Typo alert! ;) -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Yubikeys are now supported

2010-10-07 Thread Paul Wouters
On Thu, 7 Oct 2010, Mike McLean wrote: I guess in a way it is like using the same password, but people might not be thinking of that when they have a device on them that they use. Wow, that's a serious weakness. Are we sure about this?

Re: Yubikeys are now supported

2010-10-07 Thread Mike McGrath
On Thu, 7 Oct 2010, Paul Wouters wrote: On Thu, 7 Oct 2010, Mike McGrath wrote: We also decided to allow yubikeys as an authentication option for the larger community to some hosts and services like fedorapeople.org or https://admin.fedoraproject.org/community/. When asked for a

Re: Yubikeys are now supported

2010-10-07 Thread Ricky Zhou
On 2010-10-07 07:25:47 PM, Mike McLean wrote: On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Paul Wouters p...@xelerance.com wrote: I have one and I've played with it in fedora. There is however an important catch. The server and the yubikey share the same AES symmetric key. This means that if the

Re: Yubikeys are now supported

2010-10-07 Thread Mike McGrath
On Thu, 7 Oct 2010, Ricky Zhou wrote: On 2010-10-07 07:25:47 PM, Mike McLean wrote: On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Paul Wouters p...@xelerance.com wrote: I have one and I've played with it in fedora. There is however an important catch. The server and the yubikey share the same AES

Re: Yubikeys are now supported

2010-10-07 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 08:54:12PM -0400, Paul Wouters wrote: I have one and I've played with it in fedora. There is however an important catch. The server and the yubikey share the same AES symmetric key. This means that if the yubikey is used for multiple sites by one user, that user is

Re: Yubikeys are now supported

2010-10-07 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 11:30:43PM -0400, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: The newer yubikey hardware has provision for two AES keys but I'm not sure how that works and whether it actually allows you to use separate keys with separate servers. Someone will need to look into this. Yes, separate keys --

systemd service timeout with kdump

2010-10-07 Thread Jon Masters
Folks, It would seem that systemd employs some kind of arbitrary timeout (30 seconds?) by default and will log operation timed out. Terminating if things take longer than this time to start up. I would like to know how to increase this timeout, or to (preferably) disable it entirely. Certain

[Bug 640752] Broken dependency: perl-Test-Simple-tests-0.94-2.fc14.noarch requires perl-Test-Simple = 0:0.94-2.fc14

2010-10-07 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=640752 Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added

File Catalyst-Engine-Apache-1.16.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by iarnell

2010-10-07 Thread Iain Arnell
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Catalyst-Engine-Apache: 7a7241dadd7c0eb28ce10aeb90c9944e Catalyst-Engine-Apache-1.16.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-Catalyst-Engine-Apache] update to 1.16

2010-10-07 Thread Iain Arnell
commit 8142ca35f9b8dec6c9971241ed0a427b16620888 Author: Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com Date: Thu Oct 7 18:38:56 2010 +0200 update to 1.16 .gitignore |1 + perl-Catalyst-Engine-Apache.spec | 37 - sources

File Clipboard-0.11.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by iarnell

2010-10-07 Thread Iain Arnell
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Clipboard: 817e33acc9005b5f0da22bcca2827e7d Clipboard-0.11.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-Clipboard] update to 0.11

2010-10-07 Thread Iain Arnell
commit 9facc87310f1ab7522c4f8788306b6a5296cce08 Author: Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com Date: Thu Oct 7 18:45:52 2010 +0200 update to 0.11 .gitignore |1 + perl-Clipboard.spec | 14 +- sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 11 insertions(+), 6

Yubikeys are now supported

2010-10-07 Thread Mike McGrath
The Fedora Infrastructure team is happy to announce support for the hardware key authentication device, the yubikey. Users will be able to use their own yubikeys to access some Fedora services, like fedorapeople.org or some web services. Why have we done this? The main purpose was to provide