Re: Collaboration Bug Triage Notes

2008-08-04 Thread Guillaume Desmottes
Le vendredi 01 août 2008 à 17:43 -0400, Greg Smith a écrit : Hi All, Hi, Also: I recorded this URL but forgot what it refers to :-( http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:Z1ajb0I4Aj8J:wiki.laptop.org/go/XMPP_Extensions+olpc+shared+rosterhl=cyct=clnkcd=1 This is a page explaining the XMPP

Re: [Server-devel] questions: lease/activation, deploying .xo/.xol, register XOs

2008-08-04 Thread Martin Langhoff
Welcome to the list! On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 6:44 PM, Christian Schmitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. How can I activate XOs with the XS? Where do I have to put the lease files? I am working on that :-) hopefully the xs-0.4 release in a couple of weeks will have a lease server. Keep an eye on the

Re: Network, neighborhood view, and the emulator.

2008-08-04 Thread Guillaume Desmottes
Le samedi 02 août 2008 à 15:18 -0400, Ton van Overbeek a écrit : On 8/2/08, Alejandro Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, is it possible to browse the neighborhood witn the OLPC emulator (on qemu) to discover other XOs and emulated XOs? (over a wi-fi network) My first attempt

Re: The tedium of erasing journal entries

2008-08-04 Thread Martin Dengler
On Sun, Aug 03, 2008 at 11:02:17PM -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote: On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 7:55 PM, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Clearly, nobody is dogfooding. (me too, +1, kkthxbye) That'd be a great start. I happen to think that Sugar's python files should be kept in the journal.

[Server-devel] Wiki and trac updates

2008-08-04 Thread Martin Langhoff
Last week I updated the wiki quite a bit - at Greg Smith's request - though not as much as wanted to. Not enough time - but do check the intro blurb, rewoked roadmap, get involved links, etc. Bring your mouse over here... http://wiki.laptop.org/go/School_server and *click!* On the what's

Re: [sugar] How do I connect to a Jabber server ?

2008-08-04 Thread Morgan Collett
Hi Mikus On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 04:10, Mikus Grinbergs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eben wrote: There has been lots of confusion about the difference between mesh and APs. They're really not the same at all, apart from the fact that they both depend on the radio. The new design no longer treats

Re: [sugar] Proposal: Activity developers mailing list

2008-08-04 Thread Morgan Collett
Thanks Martin and Albert for your dissenting opinions. They are valuable. On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 13:36, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 9:47 PM, Morgan Collett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am happy to take on making this communication happen but I really think

Re: Proposal: Activity developers mailing list

2008-08-04 Thread Morgan Collett
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 15:23, Morgan Collett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've raised the idea a couple of times to have a mailing list specifically for activity developers, which would be uncluttered by all the traffic on the devel and even sugar lists. That would hopefully have the result that

Re: A (very) brief tour of the OLPC 802.11s device class in NM r3246

2008-08-04 Thread Martin Dengler
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 11:11:13PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: Sjoerd and I started dissecting our NM-0.6 divergence so that we can begin porting that necessary pieces of that divergence to NM-0.7. Several highlights from our reading of two important files follow. NM-specific terminology is

Re: Collaboration Requirements

2008-08-04 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Edward, I have not included the case of multiple schools interacting together. This is focused on the first step which covers scale, network config and basic collaboration within a single school. I created a new page called collaboration requirements phase 2 linked from 9.1.0 page:

Re: Collaboration Requirements

2008-08-04 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Martin, OK, I can use RFC style language instead of my must and should definitions if that helps us communicate better. I'm not up to full RFC format but I can try to get as close as needed. I don't see must/should/nice to have defined in this link: ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc2223.txt

Re: [sugar] Proposal: Activity developers mailing list

2008-08-04 Thread ffm
Morgan Collett wrote: On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 15:23, Morgan Collett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've raised the idea a couple of times to have a mailing list specifically for activity developers, which would be uncluttered by all the traffic on the devel and even sugar lists. That would

Re: Collaboration Requirements

2008-08-04 Thread Morgan Collett
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 15:43, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Martin, OK, I can use RFC style language instead of my must and should definitions if that helps us communicate better. I'm not up to full RFC format but I can try to get as close as needed. I don't see must/should/nice to

Re: The tedium of erasing journal entries

2008-08-04 Thread Gary C Martin
On 4 Aug 2008, at 04:02, Albert Cahalan wrote: On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 7:55 PM, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is rather unfair. I take it you've just filled up all available space and jffs2 is now thrashing (as would happen on almost any file system)? df -m . reports

Fonts on the XO

2008-08-04 Thread shivaprasad javali
Hi, I had been struggling with trying to add fonts to my application on the XO for weeks now and I was not able to add the fonts and use xset to set up font path for the XServer. Then I found this OLPC bug report http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/5775 about the same bug . I have been experiencing

Re: [sugar] How do I connect to a Jabber server ?

2008-08-04 Thread Martin Dengler
On Sat, Aug 02, 2008 at 10:10:09PM -0400, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: Eben wrote: There has been lots of confusion about the difference between mesh and APs. They're really not the same at all, apart from the fact that they both depend on the radio. The new design no longer treats the mesh

Re: [sugar] How do I connect to a Jabber server ?

2008-08-04 Thread Morgan Collett
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 16:42, Martin Dengler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Aug 02, 2008 at 10:10:09PM -0400, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: p.s. These may be written down somewhere - but I've not been able to find explanations for how to move a connection : It Just Happens - Network Manager

Re: The tedium of erasing journal entries

2008-08-04 Thread Eben Eliason
A conglomeration of responses follow... Also, as a prologue, I will refer occasionally to the designs on the wiki [1], and in particular the 6th slide [2] with respect to the deletion issue. It's also prudent to note the initial description of the Journal [3] which remains, in nearly all

Re: video bleeds through somewhat between sessions

2008-08-04 Thread Jordan Crouse
On 02/08/08 18:53 -0400, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: It is the video chip's feature that it can display a video overlay over the RGB bitmap. The pixels where the overlay can be seen is defined by a colorkey (what was 0xFF00FF in the example), or the alpha component of the display RGB bitmap

Collaboration meeting notes

2008-08-04 Thread Greg Smith
Greg, Gary, Guillaume Desmottes, Sjoerd, Daf, Homunq, Michael met in IRC at 10AM US ET August, 4. Next meeting tomorrow, Tuesday 10AM US ET. freenode.net #olpc-meeting. May need to meet every day at that time until we go through the whole list. Will pick up triage of this list after ID 4045.

Reminder: Tuesday Release Wednesday Software Meetings -- 2:00 PM in #olpc-meeting on irc.freenode.org

2008-08-04 Thread Michael Stone
Dear world, Bring your burning release questions tomorrow and your status updates on Wednesday at the usual time and place. Please reply to this thread in advance if you have specific issues you'd like to discuss. Thanks, Michael ___ Devel mailing

Re: [sugar] Question about clipboard service

2008-08-04 Thread Eben Eliason
There is a fairly comprehensive specification [1] for the clipboard on the wiki. Most importantly it discusses the use of titles, icons, colors, and previews, which are the 4 elements of clippings that we need to support in various combination to make the clipboard successful. This spec isn't

Faster - how do I bypass look, ma - no hands ??

2008-08-04 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
Tried latest Faster -- is the small 'rodent' supposed to be cute ? Encountered at least two hurdles. Would someone please answer for me: 1) The control panel let me get into xfce. But HOW is one supposed to get back from xfce to Sugar? I did not see anything like a 'Control

Re: [sugar] Faster - how do I bypass look, ma - no hands ??

2008-08-04 Thread Eben Eliason
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Mikus Grinbergs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tried latest Faster -- is the small 'rodent' supposed to be cute ? ?? Encountered at least two hurdles. Would someone please answer for me: 1) The control panel let me get into xfce. But HOW is one supposed to

Re: [sugar] Faster - how do I bypass look, ma - no hands ??

2008-08-04 Thread pgf
eben wrote: On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Mikus Grinbergs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tried latest Faster -- is the small 'rodent' supposed to be cute ? ?? i believe mikus is referring to the XFCE, uh, mascot: http://www.xfce.org/images/about/screenshots/4.2-5.jpg

Re: Collaboration Requirements

2008-08-04 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 1:35 AM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have not included the case of multiple schools interacting together. This is focused on the first step which covers scale, network config and basic collaboration within a single school. To expand on this -- I had not seen

Re: The tedium of erasing journal entries

2008-08-04 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 18:03 -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote: Aaron Konstam writes: Someone in a recent message suggested that people should learn to routinely erase Journal entries to prevent the NAND from filling up. Unless I have missed something that is a very tedious task to lay on

Re: sticking ctrl and alt keys cont...

2008-08-04 Thread S Page
Chris Marshall wrote: ...That isn't so good if the problem is not in the keyboard mechanism but in the EC, timings tolerances somewhere... My only stuck key experience was recently on build 708 (8.1.1 candidate). I pressed a bunch of keys along with the power button trying to come out of

Re: [sugar] Proposal: Activity developers mailing list

2008-08-04 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 12:45 AM, Morgan Collett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my experience the activity developer community has lost many participants already. Perhaps they weren't going to stay anyway, beyond an initial ... I personally found the best approach was to follow all communication

Re: video bleeds through somewhat between sessions

2008-08-04 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
When I am looking at the (full-screen) video output, if what I see involves a 'video overlay' -- that's fine with me. But when I switch away from the 'session' displaying the video output, I don't want interference to what I'm currently looking at (whether that interference comes from a

Re: [sugar] How do I connect to a Jabber server ?

2008-08-04 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
My _wish_ is simple: I want a chance to contact (for Chat, or for collaboration) another XO at a different location. Basically, for me to initiate that, that other XO's icon needs to be shown in my Neighborhood view. Currently, only icons from the LOCAL mesh to which I am connected will

missing shared library aliases

2008-08-04 Thread Brian Harvey
I'm trying to build a static wxWidgets library on the XO (for use with the ucblogo project), and it works, except that certain shared libraries are (at least on my XO) missing aliases that exist on my office Linux PC. For example, I have a file named /usr/lib/libXxf86vm.so.1 but the linker

Re: [sugar] How do I connect to a Jabber server ?

2008-08-04 Thread Gary C Martin
On 4 Aug 2008, at 23:40, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: My _wish_ is simple: I want a chance to contact (for Chat, or for collaboration) another XO at a different location. Basically, for me to initiate that, that other XO's icon needs to be shown in my Neighborhood view. Currently, only icons

Re: Faster - how do I bypass look, ma - no hands ??

2008-08-04 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi Mikus, just to clarify: you are playing with *alpha*, *proof-of-concept* software that Scott is spinning just to test the waters. I am not sure if you are kidding, but your email sounds pretty short-tempered. Open mind, a sense of humour and a where can I help attitude welcome when looking at

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2008-08-04 Thread Brian Harvey
~s missing shared library aliases I'm trying to build a static wxWidgets library on the XO (for use with the ucblogo project), and it works, except that certain shared libraries are (at least on my XO) missing aliases that exist on my office Linux PC. For example, I have a file named

New joyride build 2253

2008-08-04 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2253 Changes in build 2253 from build: 2246 Size delta: -0.13M -rainbow 0.7.18-1.fc9 +rainbow 0.7.19-1.fc9 -cerebro 2.9.8-1.olpc3 +cerebro 2.9.10-1.olpc3 -kernel 2.6.25-20080801.1.olpc.4cb5af5103d70b9 +kernel

New faster build 2253

2008-08-04 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/faster/build2253 Changes in build 2253 from build: 2250 Size delta: -0.13M -rainbow 0.7.18-1.fc9 +rainbow 0.7.19-1.fc9 -cerebro 2.9.8-1.olpc3 +cerebro 2.9.10-1.olpc3 -kernel 2.6.25-20080801.1.olpc.4cb5af5103d70b9 +kernel

[Server-devel] questions: lease/activation, deploying .xo/.xol, register XOs

2008-08-04 Thread Christian Schmitt
Hi, i just started to do some testing with the XS for our project in Ethiopa. I have some questions concerning the features (which weren't solved for me studying the wiki): 1. How can I activate XOs with the XS? Where do I have to put the lease files? 2. We like to do software updates

[Server-devel] Time for another Server-Devel Meeting IRC or Skype?

2008-08-04 Thread Bryan Berry
Martin, We are putting a lot of work into the XS here in Nepal after a long absence. David Van Assche is now w/ OLE nepal full-time in Kathmandu working on the XS. We want to make sure we are moving in the same direction and not waste anyone's time. How about an IRC or Skype meeting open to all

[Server-devel] [Fwd: Re: Using XO HW with an XS image]

2008-08-04 Thread Tyler Williams
forwarding for anyone interested... Original Message Subject:Re: [Server-devel] Using XO HW with an XS image Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 23:33:40 +1200 From: Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tyler Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL

[Server-devel] F9 timeframe?

2008-08-04 Thread Berkowitz Andrew (Project Connect)
Martin, When do you expect that we'll move the XS to Fedora 9? Thank you. Andrew Berkowitz DOE 2 MetroTech Center, Suite 3900 Brooklyn, NY 11201 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 718-935-5471 ___ Server-devel mailing list

Re: [Server-devel] DNS Connectivity Issues

2008-08-04 Thread Tarun Pondicherry
Hi Glen, Is there an IP I can use to ssh to the server while the dns issues are resolved? Thanks, Tarun Glen Roberts wrote: Today just after noon (edt) our Qwest internet connection (not the one the EDU server is on) went down. I was in the middle of upgrading the DNS servers so it

Re: [Server-devel] F9 timeframe?

2008-08-04 Thread Martin Langhoff
2008/8/5 Berkowitz Andrew (Project Connect) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: When do you expect that we'll move the XS to Fedora 9? Good question. The main holdup is the network configuration scripting we have. The XS configures its NICs and USB-connected antennae and general networking setup in fairly

Re: [Server-devel] Time for another Server-Devel Meeting IRC or Skype?

2008-08-04 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 9:17 PM, Bryan Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are putting a lot of work into the XS here in Nepal after a long absence. Cool - David Van Assche is now w/ OLE nepal full-time in Kathmandu working on the XS. We want to make sure we are moving in the same direction and

Re: [Server-devel] F9 timeframe?

2008-08-04 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/8/5 Berkowitz Andrew (Project Connect) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: When do you expect that we'll move the XS to Fedora 9? Good question. The main holdup is the network configuration scripting we have. BTW, this is the query

[Server-devel] Understanding the network scripts on F7-based XS

2008-08-04 Thread Martin Langhoff
Our current network migration scripts are reportedly build on interfaces that are F7 specific. To reimplement them on F9, we need to understand what they do. Jerry is knowledgeable in F9's networking and has offered help with the port. The first step is to understand what the current scripts do -