Re: [SailfishDevel] How to debug Julla
Hi Tony I initially had great problems upgrading my Jolla, installing stuff from the store, and even activating developer mode. After lots of hunting around, experimentation and measuring, I concluded that the problem was high latency in my home network, and the Jolla's poor tolerance for this. (Other similar devices could upgrade no problem). I stripped my home network down to the bare essentials, the latency issues vanished, and hey presto I could install developer mode, upgrade my Jolla etc. Maybe you have a similar issue? Chris Zitat von Tony tony.chend...@gmail.com: Hi, My Julla ?s system version is 1.0.0.5. I tried to upgrade the system , but system mentioned that is the newest version. Besides , I also tried to start using development mode. The system noticed that development package install failed. Do you know how to debug it ? tony.chend...@gmail.com ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] How to debug Julla
Hi Jonni In my case getting rid of the latency in my home network seemed to do the trick. Having got the latency down to normal levels, I was able to upgrade the phone, use the store, activate developer mode etc. without a hitch. Interestingly though, the phone is more than 1.5 mins behind real time. This raises the question, what is supposed to regulate time on a Jolla? Should not reasonably accurate time be available from the GSM signal? PkCon shows that ntpdate is available, but not ntpd (and given that the phone will not always have an active udp network, ntpd would probably not be much help anyway). grüsse Chris Zitat von Jonni Rainisto jonni.raini...@jolla.com: Few things to check: - date and clock is current. https connection will fail if clock is even a minute behind real time. - you haven't touched SSU button in developer mode, if you have then you need to switch your domain back to sales. If nothing else is helps then setting time and doing factory reset might do the trick as last resort. re, Jonni From: devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org [devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] on behalf of christopher.l...@thurweb.ch [christopher.l...@thurweb.ch] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:48 AM To: Sailfish OS Developers; Tony Cc: devel@lists.sailfishos.org Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] How to debug Julla Hi Tony I initially had great problems upgrading my Jolla, installing stuff from the store, and even activating developer mode. After lots of hunting around, experimentation and measuring, I concluded that the problem was high latency in my home network, and the Jolla's poor tolerance for this. (Other similar devices could upgrade no problem). I stripped my home network down to the bare essentials, the latency issues vanished, and hey presto I could install developer mode, upgrade my Jolla etc. Maybe you have a similar issue? Chris Zitat von Tony tony.chend...@gmail.com: Hi, My Julla ?s system version is 1.0.0.5. I tried to upgrade the system , but system mentioned that is the newest version. Besides , I also tried to start using development mode. The system noticed that development package install failed. Do you know how to debug it ? tony.chend...@gmail.com ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] How to debug Julla
Yes, usually you get accurate time from your GSM network depending on your operator. Sometimes users do start the phone without SIM attached, and in that case people can forget 1970 or some other wrong year in the device. In future updates there are improvements to automaticly fetch time also from ntp servers (don't remember if that was already included in 1.0.3.8). re, Jonni From: christopher.l...@thurweb.ch [christopher.l...@thurweb.ch] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 2:26 PM To: Sailfish OS Developers; Jonni Rainisto Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] How to debug Julla Hi Jonni In my case getting rid of the latency in my home network seemed to do the trick. Having got the latency down to normal levels, I was able to upgrade the phone, use the store, activate developer mode etc. without a hitch. Interestingly though, the phone is more than 1.5 mins behind real time. This raises the question, what is supposed to regulate time on a Jolla? Should not reasonably accurate time be available from the GSM signal? PkCon shows that ntpdate is available, but not ntpd (and given that the phone will not always have an active udp network, ntpd would probably not be much help anyway). grüsse Chris Zitat von Jonni Rainisto jonni.raini...@jolla.com: Few things to check: - date and clock is current. https connection will fail if clock is even a minute behind real time. - you haven't touched SSU button in developer mode, if you have then you need to switch your domain back to sales. If nothing else is helps then setting time and doing factory reset might do the trick as last resort. re, Jonni From: devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org [devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] on behalf of christopher.l...@thurweb.ch [christopher.l...@thurweb.ch] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:48 AM To: Sailfish OS Developers; Tony Cc: devel@lists.sailfishos.org Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] How to debug Julla Hi Tony I initially had great problems upgrading my Jolla, installing stuff from the store, and even activating developer mode. After lots of hunting around, experimentation and measuring, I concluded that the problem was high latency in my home network, and the Jolla's poor tolerance for this. (Other similar devices could upgrade no problem). I stripped my home network down to the bare essentials, the latency issues vanished, and hey presto I could install developer mode, upgrade my Jolla etc. Maybe you have a similar issue? Chris Zitat von Tony tony.chend...@gmail.com: Hi, My Julla ?s system version is 1.0.0.5. I tried to upgrade the system , but system mentioned that is the newest version. Besides , I also tried to start using development mode. The system noticed that development package install failed. Do you know how to debug it ? tony.chend...@gmail.com ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] How to debug Julla
Hi Jonni I have just found an option Automatic update under Settings/Time and Date. Selecting that has jumped the time to be within seconds of real time. Chris Zitat von Jonni Rainisto jonni.raini...@jolla.com: Yes, usually you get accurate time from your GSM network depending on your operator. Sometimes users do start the phone without SIM attached, and in that case people can forget 1970 or some other wrong year in the device. In future updates there are improvements to automaticly fetch time also from ntp servers (don't remember if that was already included in 1.0.3.8). re, Jonni From: christopher.l...@thurweb.ch [christopher.l...@thurweb.ch] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 2:26 PM To: Sailfish OS Developers; Jonni Rainisto Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] How to debug Julla Hi Jonni In my case getting rid of the latency in my home network seemed to do the trick. Having got the latency down to normal levels, I was able to upgrade the phone, use the store, activate developer mode etc. without a hitch. Interestingly though, the phone is more than 1.5 mins behind real time. This raises the question, what is supposed to regulate time on a Jolla? Should not reasonably accurate time be available from the GSM signal? PkCon shows that ntpdate is available, but not ntpd (and given that the phone will not always have an active udp network, ntpd would probably not be much help anyway). grüsse Chris Zitat von Jonni Rainisto jonni.raini...@jolla.com: Few things to check: - date and clock is current. https connection will fail if clock is even a minute behind real time. - you haven't touched SSU button in developer mode, if you have then you need to switch your domain back to sales. If nothing else is helps then setting time and doing factory reset might do the trick as last resort. re, Jonni From: devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org [devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] on behalf of christopher.l...@thurweb.ch [christopher.l...@thurweb.ch] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:48 AM To: Sailfish OS Developers; Tony Cc: devel@lists.sailfishos.org Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] How to debug Julla Hi Tony I initially had great problems upgrading my Jolla, installing stuff from the store, and even activating developer mode. After lots of hunting around, experimentation and measuring, I concluded that the problem was high latency in my home network, and the Jolla's poor tolerance for this. (Other similar devices could upgrade no problem). I stripped my home network down to the bare essentials, the latency issues vanished, and hey presto I could install developer mode, upgrade my Jolla etc. Maybe you have a similar issue? Chris Zitat von Tony tony.chend...@gmail.com: Hi, My Julla ?s system version is 1.0.0.5. I tried to upgrade the system , but system mentioned that is the newest version. Besides , I also tried to start using development mode. The system noticed that development package install failed. Do you know how to debug it ? tony.chend...@gmail.com ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] How to debug Julla
On Thu, 2014-02-27 at 14:41 +0800, Tony wrote: My Julla ’s system version is 1.0.0.5. I tried to upgrade the system , but First of all, it is Jolla system mentioned that is the newest version. Besides , I also tried to start using development mode. The system noticed that development package install failed. Feels a bit like a network connection problem. Does your network connection work ok otherwise ? Can you browse for example ? -- Kaj-Michael Lang mil...@tal.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] How to debug Julla
Hi, Here are instructions for updating: https://jolla.zendesk.com/entries/39296038-I-have-problems-with-my-Jolla-account-loading-applications-from-the-Jolla-store-and-or-getting-the-l Best Regards, Vesku On 02/27/2014 08:41 AM, Tony wrote: Hi, My Julla 's system version is 1.0.0.5. I tried to upgrade the system , but system mentioned that is the newest version. Besides , I also tried to start using development mode. The system noticed that development package install failed. Do you know how to debug it ? tony.chend...@gmail.com mailto:tony.chend...@gmail.com ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list -- Vesa-Matti Hartikainen Jolla Oy http://jolla.com p. +358 50 487 6067 ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] How to debug Julla
Kaj Not quite so. I think 1.0.3.8 Naamankajärvi is the latest! Kaj-Michael Lang kirjoitti Thu Feb 27 2014 09:20:07 GMT+0200 (EET): On Thu, 2014-02-27 at 14:41 +0800, Tony wrote: My Julla ’s system version is 1.0.0.5. I tried to upgrade the system , but First of all, it is Jolla system mentioned that is the newest version. Besides , I also tried to start using development mode. The system noticed that development package install failed. Feels a bit like a network connection problem. Does your network connection work ok otherwise ? Can you browse for example ? -- Kaj-Michael Lang mil...@tal.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing lis -- Lähetetty Simon Jollasta ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
