Re: [SailfishDevel] Zypper and PackageKit

2014-01-06 Thread Marcin M.
And is it possible to make packagekit show bytes (or x 10^n bytes) progress
just like apt or zypper?

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2014/1/4 Mikael Hermansson m...@7b4.se

 On Saturday 04 January 2014 20.07.52 Martin Grimme wrote:
  Hi,
 
  2014/1/4, Andrey Kozhevnikov coderusin...@gmail.com:
   afaik pakckagekit have easy queue management
 
  Yes, PackageKit can queue transactions, and it can be operated without
  root privileges (which zypper would require). Sailfish/Nemo uses
  zypper's libzypp as backend for PackageKit, however.
  AFAIK zypper doesn't come preinstalled on Sailfish, but can be installed.

 One reason for packagekit is is to make platform independent package
 manager
 pkcon working both for RPM, DEB maybe more

 its a freedesktop project see:

 http://www.packagekit.org/index.html




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Re: [SailfishDevel] Zypper and PackageKit

2014-01-06 Thread Andrey Kozhevnikov

http://www.packagekit.org/gtk-doc/Transaction.html


On 07.01.2014 00:09, Marcin M. wrote:
And is it possible to make packagekit show bytes (or x 10^n bytes) 
progress just like apt or zypper?


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2014/1/4 Mikael Hermansson m...@7b4.se mailto:m...@7b4.se

On Saturday 04 January 2014 20.07.52 tel:2014%2020.07.52 Martin
Grimme wrote:
 Hi,

 2014/1/4, Andrey Kozhevnikov coderusin...@gmail.com
mailto:coderusin...@gmail.com:
  afaik pakckagekit have easy queue management

 Yes, PackageKit can queue transactions, and it can be operated
without
 root privileges (which zypper would require). Sailfish/Nemo uses
 zypper's libzypp as backend for PackageKit, however.
 AFAIK zypper doesn't come preinstalled on Sailfish, but can be
installed.

One reason for packagekit is is to make platform independent
package manager
pkcon working both for RPM, DEB maybe more

its a freedesktop project see:

http://www.packagekit.org/index.html




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Re: [SailfishDevel] Zypper and PackageKit

2014-01-06 Thread Andrey Kozhevnikov

afaik zypper downloading via curl, and it displaying information you want.

On 07.01.2014 00:09, Marcin M. wrote:
And is it possible to make packagekit show bytes (or x 10^n bytes) 
progress just like apt or zypper?


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2014/1/4 Mikael Hermansson m...@7b4.se mailto:m...@7b4.se

On Saturday 04 January 2014 20.07.52 tel:2014%2020.07.52 Martin
Grimme wrote:
 Hi,

 2014/1/4, Andrey Kozhevnikov coderusin...@gmail.com
mailto:coderusin...@gmail.com:
  afaik pakckagekit have easy queue management

 Yes, PackageKit can queue transactions, and it can be operated
without
 root privileges (which zypper would require). Sailfish/Nemo uses
 zypper's libzypp as backend for PackageKit, however.
 AFAIK zypper doesn't come preinstalled on Sailfish, but can be
installed.

One reason for packagekit is is to make platform independent
package manager
pkcon working both for RPM, DEB maybe more

its a freedesktop project see:

http://www.packagekit.org/index.html




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Re: [SailfishDevel] Zypper and PackageKit

2014-01-06 Thread Andrey Kozhevnikov

so? pkcon providin same data which pk server sent :)

On 07.01.2014 00:23, Marcin M. wrote:
The manual is about the D-Bus service, and I meant the CLI interface - 
pkcon.


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2014/1/6 Andrey Kozhevnikov coderusin...@gmail.com 
mailto:coderusin...@gmail.com


afaik zypper downloading via curl, and it displaying information
you want.


On 07.01.2014 00:09, Marcin M. wrote:

And is it possible to make packagekit show bytes (or x 10^n
bytes) progress just like apt or zypper?

--
Marcin


2014/1/4 Mikael Hermansson m...@7b4.se mailto:m...@7b4.se

On Saturday 04 January 2014 20.07.52 tel:2014%2020.07.52
Martin Grimme wrote:
 Hi,

 2014/1/4, Andrey Kozhevnikov coderusin...@gmail.com
mailto:coderusin...@gmail.com:
  afaik pakckagekit have easy queue management

 Yes, PackageKit can queue transactions, and it can be
operated without
 root privileges (which zypper would require). Sailfish/Nemo
uses
 zypper's libzypp as backend for PackageKit, however.
 AFAIK zypper doesn't come preinstalled on Sailfish, but can
be installed.

One reason for packagekit is is to make platform
independent package manager
pkcon working both for RPM, DEB maybe more

its a freedesktop project see:

http://www.packagekit.org/index.html




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Re: [SailfishDevel] Zypper and PackageKit

2014-01-06 Thread Marcin M.
The manual is about the D-Bus service, and I meant the CLI interface -
pkcon.

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2014/1/6 Andrey Kozhevnikov coderusin...@gmail.com

  afaik zypper downloading via curl, and it displaying information you want.


 On 07.01.2014 00:09, Marcin M. wrote:

 And is it possible to make packagekit show bytes (or x 10^n bytes)
 progress just like apt or zypper?

  --
 Marcin


 2014/1/4 Mikael Hermansson m...@7b4.se

 On Saturday 04 January 2014 20.07.52 Martin Grimme wrote:
  Hi,
 
  2014/1/4, Andrey Kozhevnikov coderusin...@gmail.com:
   afaik pakckagekit have easy queue management
 
  Yes, PackageKit can queue transactions, and it can be operated without
  root privileges (which zypper would require). Sailfish/Nemo uses
  zypper's libzypp as backend for PackageKit, however.
  AFAIK zypper doesn't come preinstalled on Sailfish, but can be
 installed.

  One reason for packagekit is is to make platform independent package
 manager
 pkcon working both for RPM, DEB maybe more

 its a freedesktop project see:

 http://www.packagekit.org/index.html




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Re: [SailfishDevel] Zypper and PackageKit

2014-01-06 Thread Marcin M.
It does only:

Installing[=]
Waiting in queue  [=]
Starting  [=]
Refreshing software list  [=]
Querying  [=]
Resolving dependencies[=]
Installing packages   [=]
The following packages have to be installed:
 augeas-libs-1.0.0-1.1.1.i486Libraries for augeas
 zypper-1.8.3-1.1.3.i486Command line software manager using libzypp
Proceed with changes? [N/y] y

  [=]
Installing[=]
Waiting in queue  [=]
Waiting for authentication[=]
Waiting in queue  [=]
Starting  [=]
Refreshing software list  [=]
Querying  [=]
Resolving dependencies[=]
Installing packages   [=]
Downloading packages  [=]

And doesn't show in the geeky way as apt ;)

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2014/1/6 Andrey Kozhevnikov coderusin...@gmail.com

  so? pkcon providin same data which pk server sent :)


 On 07.01.2014 00:23, Marcin M. wrote:

 The manual is about the D-Bus service, and I meant the CLI interface -
 pkcon.

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 2014/1/6 Andrey Kozhevnikov coderusin...@gmail.com

  afaik zypper downloading via curl, and it displaying information you
 want.


 On 07.01.2014 00:09, Marcin M. wrote:

 And is it possible to make packagekit show bytes (or x 10^n bytes)
 progress just like apt or zypper?

  --
 Marcin


 2014/1/4 Mikael Hermansson m...@7b4.se

 On Saturday 04 January 2014 20.07.52 2014%2020.07.52 Martin Grimme
 wrote:
  Hi,
 
  2014/1/4, Andrey Kozhevnikov coderusin...@gmail.com:
   afaik pakckagekit have easy queue management
 
  Yes, PackageKit can queue transactions, and it can be operated without
  root privileges (which zypper would require). Sailfish/Nemo uses
  zypper's libzypp as backend for PackageKit, however.
  AFAIK zypper doesn't come preinstalled on Sailfish, but can be
 installed.

  One reason for packagekit is is to make platform independent package
 manager
 pkcon working both for RPM, DEB maybe more

 its a freedesktop project see:

 http://www.packagekit.org/index.html




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Re: [SailfishDevel] Zypper and PackageKit

2014-01-04 Thread Andrey Kozhevnikov

afaik pakckagekit have easy queue management

On 05.01.2014 00:40, Marcin M. wrote:

Hi,

I'm wondering, what are the advantages  disadvantages of Zypper vs 
PackageKit. Why has the latter been selected for Sailfish as default?


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Re: [SailfishDevel] Zypper and PackageKit

2014-01-04 Thread Martin Grimme
Hi,

2014/1/4, Andrey Kozhevnikov coderusin...@gmail.com:
 afaik pakckagekit have easy queue management

Yes, PackageKit can queue transactions, and it can be operated without
root privileges (which zypper would require). Sailfish/Nemo uses
zypper's libzypp as backend for PackageKit, however.
AFAIK zypper doesn't come preinstalled on Sailfish, but can be installed.


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Re: [SailfishDevel] Zypper and PackageKit

2014-01-04 Thread Mikael Hermansson
On Saturday 04 January 2014 20.07.52 Martin Grimme wrote:
 Hi,
 
 2014/1/4, Andrey Kozhevnikov coderusin...@gmail.com:
  afaik pakckagekit have easy queue management
 
 Yes, PackageKit can queue transactions, and it can be operated without
 root privileges (which zypper would require). Sailfish/Nemo uses
 zypper's libzypp as backend for PackageKit, however.
 AFAIK zypper doesn't come preinstalled on Sailfish, but can be installed.

One reason for packagekit is is to make platform independent package manager 
pkcon working both for RPM, DEB maybe more

its a freedesktop project see:

http://www.packagekit.org/index.html




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