[freenet-dev] usability testing

2009-06-16 Thread Zero3
Matthew Toseland skrev: > On Sunday 14 June 2009 14:24:39 Zero3 wrote: >> a) On the front page of the website: A "What is Freenet?" teaser linking >> to the "What is Freenet?" page would be cool. Confusedly started to read >> the news item instead. (She should have spotted the "News" headline,

[freenet-dev] Non-english windows users: does it pick up your language or do you need to set it?

2009-06-16 Thread bo-le
Am Dienstag, 16. Juni 2009 21:40:53 schrieb Zero3: > Matthew Toseland skrev: > > On Sunday 14 June 2009 13:11:40 Zero3 wrote: > >> Matthew Toseland skrev: > >>> Does the new windows installer set up Freenet to use the correct > >>> language? Obviously it asks you, but after that does the node use

[freenet-dev] About the website

2009-06-16 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
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[freenet-dev] Beta of Windows tray icon + update.cmd updating

2009-06-16 Thread Juiceman
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Matthew Toseland wrote: > On Wednesday 17 June 2009 00:48:44 Juiceman wrote: >> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 7:16 PM, Matthew >> Toseland wrote: >> > On Tuesday 16 June 2009 23:16:58 Zero3 wrote: >> >> I've successfully (I think?) branched the master branch of >> >>

[freenet-dev] Non-english windows users: does it pick up your language or do you need to set it?

2009-06-16 Thread Zero3
Matthew Toseland skrev: > On Sunday 14 June 2009 13:11:40 Zero3 wrote: >> Matthew Toseland skrev: >>> Does the new windows installer set up Freenet to use the correct language? >>> Obviously it asks you, but after that does the node use the correct >>> language? And does it pick up the system

[freenet-dev] About the website

2009-06-16 Thread Matthew Toseland
e the normal web with Freenet. Given that some > new users are familiar with TOR, they may be expecting something like > it; best not to feed those assumptions. Okay: Freenet is free software which lets you anonymously share files, browse and publish "freesites" (web sit

[freenet-dev] Good screenshots needed

2009-06-16 Thread Ian Clarke
I've been doing quite a bit of work in my day job with people who have done a vast amount of testing of the effectiveness of different website designs. If I were to condense what I've learned into a single caveman sentence, it would be: "Big dense blocks of text: BAD, Pictures: GOOD"

[freenet-dev] The new blue gradient website background

2009-06-16 Thread Ian Clarke
We desperately need someone to take ownership of the website, and particularly its design. This person doesn't need to be Pablo Picasso, but they do need some aesthetic sensibilities. Any volunteers? Ian. On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Daniel Cheng wrote: >

[freenet-dev] Bulk vs realtime transfer flag

2009-06-16 Thread Matthew Toseland
and that leads to the > question of how the node sets the maximum bucket size of a node (the > number of allowable concurrent requests), which could be a constant or > tend to be less towards 'leaf' nodes. Yes, this is something like I have been thinking for token passing. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 835 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20090616/bdade042/attachment.pgp>

[freenet-dev] Beta of Windows tray icon + update.cmd updating

2009-06-16 Thread Juiceman
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 7:16 PM, Matthew Toseland wrote: > On Tuesday 16 June 2009 23:16:58 Zero3 wrote: >> I've successfully (I think?) branched the master branch of >> wininstaller-staging at github to a new beta branch. This branch now >> contains the upcoming Windows tray icon. >> >> Please

[freenet-dev] usability testing

2009-06-16 Thread Matthew Toseland
be slow for a while." ??? How is this FUD? Users don't read, and have unrealistic expectations, so it is IMHO essential to tell them, while we have less than 10 peers, that Freenet may be slow for a while. Several times when I have done test installs this hasn't even shown up since it has reached 10 peers before showing the browse page! -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 835 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20090616/c00b8fea/attachment.pgp>

[freenet-dev] Good screenshots needed

2009-06-16 Thread Evan Daniel
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Matthew Toseland wrote: > We need some (3?) screenshots. These must be legal, look reasonably good both > in full and when thumbnailed to a reasonable size so we can put them on the > homepage. > > Alternatively, please explain why it would be bad to replace the

[freenet-dev] Non-english windows users: does it pick up your language or do you need to set it?

2009-06-16 Thread Matthew Toseland
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[freenet-dev] About the website

2009-06-16 Thread Matthew Toseland
to block it, and does not rely on tunneling to the "free world". Sounds good? Try it!' -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 835 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20090616/a7cc558b/attachment.pgp>

[freenet-dev] need graphic design help

2009-06-16 Thread Ian Clarke
Ok, we need some help with the website, surely someone out there knows their way around Gimp, or Adobe Illustrator or something, or has a friend that does? Highest priorities: - Fix the logo on the website - it should be "Freenet", not "FreeNet" - Create a decent "Get Freenet" button, something

[freenet-dev] usability testing

2009-06-16 Thread Evan Daniel
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Matthew Toseland wrote: >> e) On the "Download page": No idea what a "node reference" is. (Could be >> rephrased or explained better) > > That's why it's in quotes, and the "Add a friend" page does explain it. Do > you have any suggestion as to how to improve the

[freenet-dev] About the website

2009-06-16 Thread Evan Daniel
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Matthew Toseland wrote: > On Tuesday 16 June 2009 03:18:47 Evan Daniel wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 7:14 PM, Matthew >> Toseland wrote: >> > I have done the first phase of deploying this, after discussions with Ian. >> > We use the new background and the new

[freenet-dev] Bulk vs realtime transfer flag

2009-06-16 Thread Robert Hailey
On Jun 13, 2009, at 12:32 PM, Matthew Toseland wrote: > We might want to wait until we have finished with the opennet > connection limit changes, but IMHO this is a good idea too. > > Basically, requests would have a flag, which is either bulk or > realtime. > > Currently, we only allow new

[freenet-dev] About the website

2009-06-16 Thread Clément
On Tuesday 16 June 2009 01:14:24 Matthew Toseland wrote: > On Monday 01 June 2009 01:24:24 Cl?ment wrote: > > [...] > > I have done the first phase of deploying this, after discussions with Ian. > We use the new background and the new logo, but we waste a lot of space on > the top "line" with

[freenet-dev] Win Installer it_IT l10n 090611

2009-06-16 Thread Zero3
Luke771 skrev: >> Whoa - that's too short! I placed the "[*]" to let you know where the >> max was, but now your translation is over a line less than max (= >> leaving a blank line in the GUI). Can you add a few words again? ;) >> > > LOL, OK, make that: > > "Freenet Installer has detected

Re: [freenet-dev] About the website

2009-06-16 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Tuesday 16 June 2009 03:18:47 Evan Daniel wrote: On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 7:14 PM, Matthew Toselandt...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote: I have done the first phase of deploying this, after discussions with Ian. We use the new background and the new logo, but we waste a lot of space on the

Re: [freenet-dev] Non-english windows users: does it pick up your language or do you need to set it?

2009-06-16 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Sunday 14 June 2009 13:11:40 Zero3 wrote: Matthew Toseland skrev: Does the new windows installer set up Freenet to use the correct language? Obviously it asks you, but after that does the node use the correct language? And does it pick up the system locale in the first place? IIRC

Re: [freenet-dev] About the website

2009-06-16 Thread Evan Daniel
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Matthew Toselandt...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote: On Tuesday 16 June 2009 03:18:47 Evan Daniel wrote: On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 7:14 PM, Matthew Toselandt...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote: I have done the first phase of deploying this, after discussions with Ian.

Re: [freenet-dev] usability testing

2009-06-16 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Sunday 14 June 2009 14:24:39 Zero3 wrote: Ian Clarke skrev: Its that time again. Grab your girlfriends, boyfriends, flatmates, friends etc, sit them down in front of a computer, and ask them to install and use Freenet. Take careful note of anywhere they get stuck and either report it

Re: [freenet-dev] Bulk vs realtime transfer flag

2009-06-16 Thread Robert Hailey
On Jun 13, 2009, at 12:32 PM, Matthew Toseland wrote: We might want to wait until we have finished with the opennet connection limit changes, but IMHO this is a good idea too. Basically, requests would have a flag, which is either bulk or realtime. Currently, we only allow new

Re: [freenet-dev] usability testing

2009-06-16 Thread Evan Daniel
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Matthew Toselandt...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote: e) On the Download page: No idea what a node reference is. (Could be rephrased or explained better) That's why it's in quotes, and the Add a friend page does explain it. Do you have any suggestion as to how to

Re: [freenet-dev] Bulk vs realtime transfer flag

2009-06-16 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Tuesday 16 June 2009 19:53:48 Robert Hailey wrote: On Jun 13, 2009, at 12:32 PM, Matthew Toseland wrote: We might want to wait until we have finished with the opennet connection limit changes, but IMHO this is a good idea too. Basically, requests would have a flag, which is

Re: [freenet-dev] Non-english windows users: does it pick up your language or do you need to set it?

2009-06-16 Thread Zero3
Matthew Toseland skrev: On Sunday 14 June 2009 13:11:40 Zero3 wrote: Matthew Toseland skrev: Does the new windows installer set up Freenet to use the correct language? Obviously it asks you, but after that does the node use the correct language? And does it pick up the system locale in the

Re: [freenet-dev] Non-english windows users: does it pick up your language or do you need to set it?

2009-06-16 Thread bo-le
Am Dienstag, 16. Juni 2009 21:40:53 schrieb Zero3: Matthew Toseland skrev: On Sunday 14 June 2009 13:11:40 Zero3 wrote: Matthew Toseland skrev: Does the new windows installer set up Freenet to use the correct language? Obviously it asks you, but after that does the node use the correct

Re: [freenet-dev] About the website

2009-06-16 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Dienstag, 16. Juni 2009 19:52:32 schrieb Matthew Toseland: Okay. The homepage now says: ' Freenet is free software which lets you anonymously share files, browse and publish web sites, and chat on forums, without fear of censorship. Users are anonymous, and Freenet is entirely

Re: [freenet-dev] About the website

2009-06-16 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Tuesday 16 June 2009 19:12:52 Evan Daniel wrote: On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Matthew Toselandt...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote: On Tuesday 16 June 2009 03:18:47 Evan Daniel wrote: On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 7:14 PM, Matthew Toselandt...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote: I have done the

Re: [freenet-dev] usability testing

2009-06-16 Thread Zero3
Matthew Toseland skrev: On Sunday 14 June 2009 14:24:39 Zero3 wrote: a) On the front page of the website: A What is Freenet? teaser linking to the What is Freenet? page would be cool. Confusedly started to read the news item instead. (She should have spotted the News headline, but I agree

Re: [freenet-dev] Non-english windows users: does it pick up your language or do you need to set it?

2009-06-16 Thread Zero3
bo-le skrev: Am Dienstag, 16. Juni 2009 21:40:53 schrieb Zero3: Matthew Toseland skrev: On Sunday 14 June 2009 13:11:40 Zero3 wrote: Matthew Toseland skrev: This value is also passed on to the node via node.l10n=Deutsch (example for German) in freenet.ini. (I don't think that specifying a

[freenet-dev] website feedback

2009-06-16 Thread Ian Clarke
Some notes on the website from a friend of mine who does usability work: i'd remove the cup image from the store because it becomes the most prominent element on the page next to the logo itself. I'd make the what is freenet bolder and at the top. maybe even pull it out as a quote FREENET --

[freenet-dev] Beta of Windows tray icon + update.cmd updating

2009-06-16 Thread Zero3
I've successfully (I think?) branched the master branch of wininstaller-staging at github to a new beta branch. This branch now contains the upcoming Windows tray icon. Please feel free to test. Even small fixes like spelling and grammar is more than welcome (because mine suck ;)). Source:

Re: [freenet-dev] website feedback

2009-06-16 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Tuesday 16 June 2009 22:38:26 Ian Clarke wrote: Some notes on the website from a friend of mine who does usability work: i'd remove the cup image from the store because it becomes the most prominent element on the page next to the logo itself. Agreed, current plan is to make the menu

[freenet-dev] Suggestion: Link to bugs needing feedback on the website

2009-06-16 Thread Zero3
In the bugtracker we have a long list of bugs that require user/community feedback. Right now, nobody seems to notice that. I suggest we somehow promote this need for feedback to the website. Possible solution: A How can I help? page with a link to:

Re: [freenet-dev] Beta of Windows tray icon + update.cmd updating

2009-06-16 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Tuesday 16 June 2009 23:16:58 Zero3 wrote: I've successfully (I think?) branched the master branch of wininstaller-staging at github to a new beta branch. This branch now contains the upcoming Windows tray icon. Please feel free to test. Even small fixes like spelling and grammar is

[freenet-dev] need graphic design help

2009-06-16 Thread Ian Clarke
Ok, we need some help with the website, surely someone out there knows their way around Gimp, or Adobe Illustrator or something, or has a friend that does? Highest priorities: - Fix the logo on the website - it should be Freenet, not FreeNet - Create a decent Get Freenet button, something

Re: [freenet-dev] About the website

2009-06-16 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Monday 01 June 2009 01:24:24 Clément wrote: Hello all, about three weeks ago I had a HCI webproject to do. The subject was : improve an existant website (well, I'm not 100% sure that it was the subject, but that what we've done) I convinced the three other people who worked with me

[freenet-dev] Good screenshots needed

2009-06-16 Thread Matthew Toseland
We need some (3?) screenshots. These must be legal, look reasonably good both in full and when thumbnailed to a reasonable size so we can put them on the homepage. Alternatively, please explain why it would be bad to replace the news on the homepage with a few screenshots. signature.asc

Re: [freenet-dev] Good screenshots needed

2009-06-16 Thread Evan Daniel
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Matthew Toselandt...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote: We need some (3?) screenshots. These must be legal, look reasonably good both in full and when thumbnailed to a reasonable size so we can put them on the homepage. Alternatively, please explain why it would be

Re: [freenet-dev] Beta of Windows tray icon + update.cmd updating

2009-06-16 Thread Juiceman
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 7:16 PM, Matthew Toselandt...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote: On Tuesday 16 June 2009 23:16:58 Zero3 wrote: I've successfully (I think?) branched the master branch of wininstaller-staging at github to a new beta branch. This branch now contains the upcoming Windows tray

Re: [freenet-dev] usability testing

2009-06-16 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Tuesday 16 June 2009 21:53:09 Zero3 wrote: Matthew Toseland skrev: On Sunday 14 June 2009 14:24:39 Zero3 wrote: a) On the front page of the website: A What is Freenet? teaser linking to the What is Freenet? page would be cool. Confusedly started to read the news item instead. (She

Re: [freenet-dev] Beta of Windows tray icon + update.cmd updating

2009-06-16 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Wednesday 17 June 2009 00:48:44 Juiceman wrote: On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 7:16 PM, Matthew Toselandt...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote: On Tuesday 16 June 2009 23:16:58 Zero3 wrote: I've successfully (I think?) branched the master branch of wininstaller-staging at github to a new beta branch.

Re: [freenet-dev] website feedback

2009-06-16 Thread Clément
On Wednesday 17 June 2009 00:32:05 Matthew Toseland wrote: On Tuesday 16 June 2009 22:38:26 Ian Clarke wrote: Some notes on the website from a friend of mine who does usability work: i'd remove the cup image from the store because it becomes the most prominent element on the page next to

Re: [freenet-dev] need graphic design help

2009-06-16 Thread Clément
On Wednesday 17 June 2009 01:18:28 Ian Clarke wrote: Ok, we need some help with the website, surely someone out there knows their way around Gimp, or Adobe Illustrator or something, or has a friend that does? Highest priorities: - Fix the logo on the website - it should be Freenet, not

[freenet-dev] The new blue gradient website background

2009-06-16 Thread Daniel Cheng
Just a quick notes: Blue Gradient background won't work, because: -- BLUE have low contrast with the black text -- our rabbit logo is blue, even lower contrast -- the website ian suggested ( getfirefox/ jquery) and other well-design webpage does NOT use gradient

Re: [freenet-dev] need graphic design help

2009-06-16 Thread Gerard Krol
Clément wrote: On Wednesday 17 June 2009 01:18:28 Ian Clarke wrote: Ok, we need some help with the website, surely someone out there knows their way around Gimp, or Adobe Illustrator or something, or has a friend that does? Highest priorities: - Fix the logo on the website - it should be

Re: [freenet-dev] The new blue gradient website background

2009-06-16 Thread Clément
On Wednesday 17 June 2009 02:06:06 Daniel Cheng wrote: Just a quick notes: Blue Gradient background won't work, because: -- BLUE have low contrast with the black text I disagree here : black text on light blue have a good contrast. -- our rabbit logo is blue, even lower contrast

Re: [freenet-dev] The new blue gradient website background

2009-06-16 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Am Mittwoch, 17. Juni 2009 02:06:06 schrieb Daniel Cheng: Blue Gradient background won't work, because: But it looked very nice to me, and I could read the text quite well... --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- - singing a part of the history of free

Re: [freenet-dev] Beta of Windows tray icon + update.cmd updating

2009-06-16 Thread Juiceman
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Matthew Toselandt...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote: On Wednesday 17 June 2009 00:48:44 Juiceman wrote: On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 7:16 PM, Matthew Toselandt...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote: On Tuesday 16 June 2009 23:16:58 Zero3 wrote: I've successfully (I think?)

Re: [freenet-dev] The new blue gradient website background

2009-06-16 Thread Ian Clarke
We desperately need someone to take ownership of the website, and particularly its design. This person doesn't need to be Pablo Picasso, but they do need some aesthetic sensibilities. Any volunteers? Ian. On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Daniel Chengj16sdiz+free...@gmail.com wrote: Just a

Re: [freenet-dev] Good screenshots needed

2009-06-16 Thread Ian Clarke
I've been doing quite a bit of work in my day job with people who have done a vast amount of testing of the effectiveness of different website designs. If I were to condense what I've learned into a single caveman sentence, it would be: Big dense blocks of text: BAD, Pictures: GOOD

Re: [freenet-dev] About the website

2009-06-16 Thread Luke771
Matthew Toseland wrote: On Tuesday 16 June 2009 03:18:47 Evan Daniel wrote: On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 7:14 PM, Matthew Toselandt...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote: I have done the first phase of deploying this, after discussions with Ian. We use the new background and the new logo, but

Re: [freenet-dev] About the website

2009-06-16 Thread Luke771
Evan Daniel wrote: On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Matthew Toselandt...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote: On Tuesday 16 June 2009 03:18:47 Evan Daniel wrote: On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 7:14 PM, Matthew Toselandt...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote: I have done the first phase of