> On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 06:32:04PM -0800, Ian Clarke wrote:
> > > Doing this ourselves is a waste of time. We'd be better off with a
> > > second-generation IP protocol like SCTP or RUDP. The former is a TCP
> > > replacement, the latter is a reliable UDP protocol layered over standard
> >
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 06:32:04PM -0800, Ian Clarke wrote:
Doing this ourselves is a waste of time. We'd be better off with a
second-generation IP protocol like SCTP or RUDP. The former is a TCP
replacement, the latter is a reliable UDP protocol layered over standard
UDP.
> We should think about how difficult it would be to allow the various
> non-streaming messages (ie. the messages that do not contain a stream of
> data) to be transmitted via UDP, as opposed to TCP.
>
> Clearly, this would require thought about how we can achieve the same
> crypto goals in a
We should think about how difficult it would be to allow the various
non-streaming messages (ie. the messages that do not contain a stream of
data) to be transmitted via UDP, as opposed to TCP.
Clearly, this would require thought about how we can achieve the same
crypto goals in a UDP
On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 14:22, Ian Clarke wrote:
> > I have some questions about the cryptography used. First, which
> > specific algorithms are used?
>
> We use SHA1, AES, and Twofish in various different ways, take a look at
> the papers section of our website for some descriptions of how these
On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 14:22, Ian Clarke wrote:
I have some questions about the cryptography used. First, which
specific algorithms are used?
We use SHA1, AES, and Twofish in various different ways, take a look at
the papers section of our website for some descriptions of how these are
Aren't CHKs already using SHA?
In any case, most crypotographers seem to be shying away from MD5 more
and more. I know SHA was developed by a three-letter agency, and is
therefore the spawn of Satan, but it also works pretty well.
On Sat, 2003-01-18 at 15:50, Gianni Johansson wrote:
> I am
Aren't CHKs already using SHA?
In any case, most crypotographers seem to be shying away from MD5 more
and more. I know SHA was developed by a three-letter agency, and is
therefore the spawn of Satan, but it also works pretty well.
On Sat, 2003-01-18 at 15:50, Gianni Johansson wrote:
I am
eve native IPv6 requires entirely different classes
in the Java API.
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On Friday 01 November 2002 22:01, fish wrote:
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> > I know CHKs aren't supposed to have metadata attached with them, but I
>
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On Friday 01 November 2002 19:44, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> Timm Murray (hardburn at runbox.com) wrote:
> > (rawfcp.pl is just a little Perl script I wrote to send the 0x0002 at
> > the beginning of an FCP connection so I can se
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> On Sat, 2002-11-02 at 01:17, Timm Murray wrote:
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> > I know CHKs aren't supposed to have metadata attach
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On Friday 01 November 2002 19:51, Chris Dennis wrote:
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I know CHKs aren't supposed to have metadata attached with them,
Where did this rule come
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On Friday 01 November 2002 19:44, Greg Wooledge wrote:
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(rawfcp.pl is just a little Perl script I wrote to send the 0x0002 at
the beginning of an FCP connection so I can send FCP manually).
bash-2.05a
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On Friday 01 November 2002 22:01, fish wrote:
On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, Timm Murray wrote:
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got different values when I tried
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Those multiple instances are just threads. Just the JVM alone has a few
threads of its own. 111 sounds a bit excessive, though.
On Wednesday 09 October 2002 17:53, Michael Wiktowy wrote:
I have found on recent 0.5 pre-releases (including pre2)
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On Sunday 08 September 2002 19:53, dar-gon at mchsi.com wrote:
> On 8 Sep 2002 at 15:27, Ian Clarke wrote:
> > On Sun, Sep 08, 2002 at 11:12:56PM +0200, Oskar Sandberg wrote:
> > > While on the
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If we wanted to go that far, we wouldn't need FProxy in the first place.
FProxy is there because it makes the browser take care of all the messy GUI
stuff. It kinda goes along with the idea of making a web browser a
*platform*, not just a way of
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On Saturday 07 September 2002 23:47, Dan Merillat wrote:
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> Here's the anonymity risks:
>
> 1) Image/somethingwedontrecognize <-- IE, netscape like to load "plugins"
> for things it dosn't recognize. Someone could compromise the download
> server
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On Saturday 07 September 2002 23:47, Dan Merillat wrote:
Here's the anonymity risks:
1) Image/somethingwedontrecognize -- IE, netscape like to load plugins
for things it dosn't recognize. Someone could compromise the download
server for
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If we wanted to go that far, we wouldn't need FProxy in the first place.
FProxy is there because it makes the browser take care of all the messy GUI
stuff. It kinda goes along with the idea of making a web browser a
*platform*, not just a way of
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On Sunday 08 September 2002 19:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 8 Sep 2002 at 15:27, Ian Clarke wrote:
On Sun, Sep 08, 2002 at 11:12:56PM +0200, Oskar Sandberg wrote:
While on the subject, I
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On Friday 06 September 2002 19:19, William_dw -- Sqlcoders wrote:
> > > >As a final thought, couldn't we just work around deficiencies like
> > > >that? What happens if you send "text/x-really-plain" instead?
> > > >
> > > >--
> > > >Robbe
> > >
> > >
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On Friday 06 September 2002 17:51, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 06, 2002 at 09:43:47PM +0200, Robert Bihlmeyer wrote:
> > Travis Bemann writes:
> > > I think that a good compromise would be to put up a warning page
> > > where the user has
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On Friday 06 September 2002 16:02, William_dw -- Sqlcoders wrote:
> >-Original Message-
>
> From: devl-admin at freenetproject.org
>
> >[mailto:devl-admin at freenetproject.org]On Behalf Of Robert Bihlmeyer
> >Sent: 06 September 2002 12:44
>
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On Friday 06 September 2002 17:51, Matthew Toseland wrote:
On Fri, Sep 06, 2002 at 09:43:47PM +0200, Robert Bihlmeyer wrote:
Travis Bemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I think that a good compromise would be to put up a warning page
where the
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On Friday 06 September 2002 19:19, William_dw -- Sqlcoders wrote:
As a final thought, couldn't we just work around deficiencies like
that? What happens if you send text/x-really-plain instead?
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As far as I've found IE
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> The problem with make is javac has a stupid startup time, so is best called
> with 30+ files at
> once. Make likes to call things sequentially. ant is designed to call javac
> once with
> all the filenames.
That's why I use Jikes :)
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The problem with make is javac has a stupid startup time, so is best called with 30+
files at
once. Make likes to call things sequentially. ant is designed to call javac once
with
all the filenames.
That's why I use Jikes :)
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On Sunday 01 September 2002 08:21, cofe-mail at hushmail.com wrote:
> As everybody seems keen on beefing up fproxy all of a sudden, here's a
> few suggestions for some little changes you all might like to consider,
>
> 1) Death to the evil browser
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On Sunday 01 September 2002 08:21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As everybody seems keen on beefing up fproxy all of a sudden, here's a
few suggestions for some little changes you all might like to consider,
1) Death to the evil browser cache.
For
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On Thursday 29 August 2002 15:17, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 11:59:50AM -0700, Ian Clarke wrote:
> > I would like to encourage those still using the Makefile and "make" to
> > switch to Ant (downloadable from
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On Thursday 29 August 2002 15:17, Matthew Toseland wrote:
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 11:59:50AM -0700, Ian Clarke wrote:
I would like to encourage those still using the Makefile and make to
switch to Ant (downloadable from
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On Saturday 17 August 2002 09:49, Phil Marlowe wrote:
> I've said it before, and I'll say it again: there should be a router
> function between 0.3 and 0.4, so users of the previous protocol aren't
> orphaned. Make it optional, so we're not obnoxious
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On Friday 31 May 2002 08:54, Ian Hawkins wrote:
Can't the list owner make it so that if a non-subscribed email posts to the
list, the post gets bounced?
They are.
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On Friday 31 May 2002 15:50, Ian Clarke wrote:
Does anyone know a way to convert postscript files to png format?
Gimp?
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On Wednesday 29 May 2002 14:13, Phil Marlowe wrote:
I'd like a quick and easy method of deriving the CHK key for a document,
other than reading the nodes' response to a successful insert.
Look at the GenerateCHK option in FCP.
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The way to fix it is to return to the inform.php script.
The point behind node announcements was to get rid of inform.php. That system
was *always* considered a short-term measure. If over-centrailzation of
nodes is the reason behind the
I installed a Freenet node on a Win2k server I'm setting up for a class. This
machine is
part of a private domain, but it has a public, static IP number. The Win
installer did this
automatically:
# The I.P. address of this node as seen by the public internet.
# This is needed in order for
> On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 05:11:45PM +0200, Tuomas Lukinmaa wrote:
>
> > Also diagnostic pages lack certain mandatory tags, like DOCTYPE
> > definition (doctypes are missing from nodepages too),
> > and , have missing tags or wrongly nested tags.
>
> I fixed most of these I think, except the
> What solutions if any are in the works for this.
> My new isp has dynamic address assignment
> combined with no stable dns name precicely
> to prevent people running any sort of node
> or server.
Address Resolution Keys are in the works, which would update Freenet with your
node's
current
> I was thinking about the caching function...instead of
> caching data as it travels across nodes (which
> counteracts routing), why not automatically insert
> data the more it is requested?
That would be overly aggressive and probably cause less popular data to fall
out more quickly.
Apprently the Java 1.4 API is getting a javax.imageio for just the sort of
purpase we want, though this (of course) doens't help stone-age Free
implementations of Java 1.1.
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> An uber-conservative person or organisation will weed out all unwanted
> keys anyway, regardless of wether a command to do this is included in
> the main distribution. Instead of removing the keys from the store,
> he/she/it will probably recode his/her/its node to prevent the requests
> for
> On Mon, Feb 04, 2002 at 09:36:56PM -0800, Ian Clarke wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 12:21:18AM -0500, Gianni Johansson wrote:
> > > I added a ClientDelete command to the node's FCP implementation to delete
> > > keys from the local data store. It takes the admin password and a list
> > >
> Hello,
> I am trying to insert a 0.4 DBR freesite with exactly 300 total
> files-(which was the limit for 0.3 Freeweb/Freenet.)
>
> I am using Freeweb 0.1.5 (latest version on website).
>
> Freeweb gives me the following error:
> ezFCPlib: URIerror: Reason=length cannot exceed 32768 bytes
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On Friday 18 January 2002 04:09, you wrote:
<>
> As always, I welcome your thoughts and comments.
> I think Freenet could be a wonderful system of cached system content and
> distribution. I'd love to upgrade Debian via freenet at some point.
You're
> Edgar Friendly writes:
>
> > "gnutella fan" writes:
> >
> > > [...] In addition if I want to share something and I am not worried
> > > about the content I could keep it on my computer and not have to worry
> > > about it being lost from the network if I dont refresh it.
> > >
> > No. The
<>
> To make it simple, I'd make two programs. One that just uploaded a single
> .tgz,
> and the other which just downloaded, and installed it.
"Web site in a tarball" comes up every once and a while. We really just need
someone
to come along and hammer out code to do it (and please document
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On Monday 14 January 2002 12:16, you wrote:
> I have a few questions that I have not been able to answer after reading
> much of the info on the freenet site.
>
> -Does freenet support multisource uploads/downloads?
>
> -The files that are mirrored,
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On Saturday 05 January 2002 18:34, you wrote:
> A modified version of the FCP spec (that is, with an item for Pending
> added, and with several smaller modifications) is now up under the
> devel public area at freenetproject.org. There is one problem
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On Wednesday 02 January 2002 00:46, you wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 12:54:16AM -0500, Tavin Cole wrote:
> > Changing the package name from Freenet has been brought up before. This
> > would be a good time to do that.
>
> I still don't really see
ady has done this. ?
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> I started thinking about freenet and private (NAT:ed) networks.
> Mojo Nation uses a relay service so that client behind NAT-gateways
> can participate in the network. Since more and more hosts connects
> to the internet that way I think such capabilities in fred would
> be a "Good Thing"(tm).
> On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 04:13:51PM +0000, Timm Murray wrote:
> > > Arrrgh. This is silly.
> > >
> > > The cycle is
> > >
> > > Design
> > > Implement
> > > Test
> > >
> > > Rinse and repeat.
> >
>
> Arrrgh. This is silly.
>
> The cycle is
>
> Design
> Implement
> Test
>
> Rinse and repeat.
No, that's what they teach you in pea-brained CS classes.
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> >> I'm not qualified from a java perspective,
> >> but boy does that sound good from a user perspective,
> >> freenet is actually becoming easy(ier) to use :)
> >
> >There is no need to be insulting.
>
> ?
> I think you might have picked up the wrong end of the stick somewhere along
> the way,
> I'm not qualified from a java perspective,
> but boy does that sound good from a user perspective,
> freenet is actually becoming easy(ier) to use :)
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> Are the javadoc files of Freenet's code posted on the website? I just
> compiled them off from the source code I just got off from CVS and I think
> they would be useful for people wanting to learn the internals of freenet.
Javadocs were up on the old version of the web site, but have since
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 04:21:22PM +0000, Timm Murray wrote:
> > This is getting really bloody annoying. Is there any way we can ban any
> > post that isn't 100%
> > text/text.
>
> So that we don't have to read anything that Ian, Adam, or Scott posts?
Oh thats
This is getting really bloody annoying. Is there any way we can ban any post
that isn't 100%
text/text.
> Receiver, InterScan (Internet email gateway) has detected virus(es) in the
> e-mail attachment. This email was deleted. This is only for your
> information, no action is required by
This is getting really bloody annoying. Is there any way we can any post that
isn't 100%
text/text.
> Receiver, InterScan (Internet email gateway) has detected virus(es) in the
> e-mail attachment. This email was deleted. This is only for your
> information, no action is required by you.
>
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> This would work if you have two nodes that are about as close to a given key,
> then you
> choose the one with the lowest ping times. I don't think this will happen in
> the real world
> very often.
Let me rephrase that. You would want to choose the one on the same subnet as
you are,
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "Timm Murray"
> > Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:31:46 GMT
> > To: devl at freenetproject.org
> > Subject: Re:[freenet-devl] Geographical routing
> >
> > I had a revelation last night: Gegraphical rou
> > You may dig as deep as you want, just don't even consider changing it
> > in any such manner.
>
> First, I don't have CVS access; second, I don't have a Java compiler;
> third, I don't know the Freenet internals; fourth, I don't know Java
> well. So don't worry. Even if I did make changes
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 09:19:48PM +, toad wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 10:05:59PM +0100, Oskar Sandberg wrote:
> < >
> > > - We figure out way to probe not only for all the IPs, but also for
> > > their netmasks and gateways, and reimplement part of IP routing to
> > > figure out
> In local.freenet, you wrote:
> > A cross-platform solution (though a kludgy one) would be to open up a
> > ServerSocket on
> > port n, then have a Socket open up a connection to localhost:n, then read
> > the IP with
> > Socket.getLocalAddress(). Will that work?
>
> No. How are you going
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 07:01:46PM +0100, Jan-Thomas Czornack wrote:
> > String hostname = InetAddress.getLocalHost().getHostName();
> > InetAddress[] ips = InetAddress.getAllByName(hostname);
> >
> > I used that long time ago, I hope it does what I think it should do...
> > (return some ip's,
<>
> It cannot be done cleanly as it was. The old code read the IP address
> off the socket every time it sent a message, but with self signed
> references in 0.4 that is not realistic. It also doesn't ring well with
> the support of multiple interfaces and protocol independence (the 0.3
> code
<>
> Oskar said in January that ARK = SSK@/. Is there any reason
> to use a counter?
How do you update the document without a counter? "True" updating (e.g.,
putting a
new document under the same SSK) has not yet been put into Freenet, and may not
be included for quite some time, if ever.
> In all, a release which documents known bugs, works enough to use it and
> track down any other bugs, would be smart and efficent, it would find most
> bugs quickly because of the relatively large userbase compared to the
> developers, and it would stop the forward momentum from stalling.
> Of
> At 15.39 09/11/01 +, you wrote:
> > > BTW wich is the position of Freenet Project Inc
> > > on releasing Freenet under GPL ?
> >
> >Freenet is under the GPL, allways has been.enet
>
> I am happy to have this confirmation; I obviously already found
> the license in the sources.
>
>
> BTW wich is the position of Freenet Project Inc
> on releasing Freenet under GPL ?
Freenet is under the GPL, allways has been.
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> Qt would therefore be an ideal development platform for a freenet client.
> Qt is NOT GPLd though which may cause problems if you are also making use of
> GPLd software.
Wait, you say it's ideal development platform for a Freenet client, but then
say Qt is NOT GPLd (for non-GNU/Linux
> > > It might be best to put pictures and such that appear on every page to be
> > > put in tarballs, while the individual pages are on their own (though
> > > preferably gziped). I can't think of a good excuse for not gzipping the
> > > individual pages, as long as clients support it
> On Thursday 25 October 2001 13:49, you wrote:
> > In local.freenet, you wrote:
> > > It occurred to me that there might be some benefit to inserting freesites
> > > as a single redundant splitfile containing an archive of the site. (Or
> > > two archives - one for the static portion and one for
> Hi,
>
> It occurred to me that there might be some benefit to inserting freesites as
> a single redundant splitfile containing an archive of the site. (Or two
> archives - one for the static portion and one for today's insert).
I've suggested this before. The only thing is that viewing
Hi,
It occurred to me that there might be some benefit to inserting freesites as
a single redundant splitfile containing an archive of the site. (Or two
archives - one for the static portion and one for today's insert).
I've suggested this before. The only thing is that viewing Freenet
On Thursday 25 October 2001 13:49, you wrote:
In local.freenet, you wrote:
It occurred to me that there might be some benefit to inserting freesites
as a single redundant splitfile containing an archive of the site. (Or
two archives - one for the static portion and one for today's
It might be best to put pictures and such that appear on every page to be
put in tarballs, while the individual pages are on their own (though
preferably gziped). I can't think of a good excuse for not gzipping the
individual pages, as long as clients support it transparently.
Can
> I had a packet catcher running while I was checkingo out a suspicion I
> had and I stumbled across some private addresses. Sure enough, my node
> was trying to connect to 192.168.0.1 -- 26 times in under a minute. What
> is being done to stop private addresses from polluting the routing
> > In the meantime, I or Sebastian will need to add code to the config program
> > to allow sizes > 2047 if the disk is NTFS/
>
> I thought the 2GB limit was due to the Java VM, as well as the OS.
> (i.e. If the OS allows it, the VM might not)
I think the Java standards specify that file sizes
> > This isn't a Freenet problem really, it's a problem with the Windows file
> system. Freenet 0.4 stores all data in a single file, but Windows can't
> make > a file larger then 2 GB (2048 MB). Note that this is the limit of a
> 32-bit signed integer. If Microsoft were to increase this to
> > This is exactly the reason I created the following wiki page:
> >
> > http://freenetproject.org/wiki/index.php?Internals
>
> This has been bugging me for a while now...
> Why does THIS still exist?
> http://freenet.netunify.com/1
There might still be some docs that haven't been moved
> I recently setup 0.4 (14102001 for Windows I think) and noticed that, where
> you put in the maximum size of of the store, it whouln't take anything above
> 2047M (0x7fff bytes). any possibility of scaling this by Ks or clusters
> or something to allow larger (20-30Gb) stores? I am runing
I recently setup 0.4 (14102001 for Windows I think) and noticed that, where
you put in the maximum size of of the store, it whouln't take anything above
2047M (0x7fff bytes). any possibility of scaling this by Ks or clusters
or something to allow larger (20-30Gb) stores? I am runing my
This is exactly the reason I created the following wiki page:
http://freenetproject.org/wiki/index.php?Internals
This has been bugging me for a while now...
Why does THIS still exist?
http://freenet.netunify.com/1
There might still be some docs that haven't been moved over to the
> > I see there a vicious circle coming up, which I don't really like.
> >
> > Mind, I am not against splitting per se, it might be appropriate for
> > *big* files, but why should my 386kb .gif be splitted in two parts?
>
> 386kb is pretty big for a GIF.
> What is it, animated?
If the
I see there a vicious circle coming up, which I don't really like.
Mind, I am not against splitting per se, it might be appropriate for
*big* files, but why should my 386kb .gif be splitted in two parts?
386kb is pretty big for a GIF.
What is it, animated?
If the stupidity of
> On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 03:59:16PM -0700, Scott G. Miller wrote:
> > You know that and I know that, but what the state of law will likely be is
> > that things are illegal if the NSA can't read them. So while a hash
> > function can be turned into a crypto algorithm, one will not be in trouble
On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 03:59:16PM -0700, Scott G. Miller wrote:
You know that and I know that, but what the state of law will likely be is
that things are illegal if the NSA can't read them. So while a hash
function can be turned into a crypto algorithm, one will not be in trouble
I belive that some have looked into it before, but there are licensing issues
to consider. If you can find a GPL-compatible version of JWS, go right ahead.
> Hello,
>
> I would very much like Freenet to support Java Web Start (JWS).
> At least I'd like to be able to distribute a JWS enabled
>
Freenet will simply go completely underground in such countries. It was
DESIGNED to work in oppressive countries, remember?
> Hi all,
>
> How is freenet going to work when encryption is outlawed worldwide? I am in
> Canada and they may be passing laws soon to outlaw true encryption for
>
On Wed, Sep 26, 2001 at 06:03:58PM +1200, David McNab wrote:
6) FTP - not supported yet - repositories of downloadable media files are
presently implemented as a loose network of inter-linked freesites - scope
exists for a freenet client to be implemented as a localhost FTP server,
which
Would that even be possible? Freenet basicly can't work at all without CHKs, and CHK
uses cryptographic hashes. Perhaps hashes wouldn't count?
Or we take a hint from Linux and separate the crypto from the main
distribution and let those that can provide encryption do so.
On Wed, Sep 26,
> From: "Scott G. Miller"
>
> >> What??!??!
> >> User-friendliness is "not really appropriate for our goals of freedom of
> >> information" ??!?
> >Of course user friendliness is. Being exactly like
> >Joe-Poorly-Designed-Filesharing-Network isn't.
>
> Point taken. Sorry for the
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