Re: [freenet-dev] Ian et al: Poll conclusions

2016-12-08 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
x...@freenetproject.org writes: > On Tuesday, December 06, 2016 06:49:04 PM Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: >> It’s been over a week now, could you please post the data with or >> without the evaluation? > > I offered something like that at both the beginning and the end of my reply > to > Ian

Re: [freenet-dev] Ian et al: Poll conclusions

2016-12-06 Thread xor
On Tuesday, December 06, 2016 06:49:04 PM Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > It’s been over a week now, could you please post the data with or > without the evaluation? I offered something like that at both the beginning and the end of my reply to Ian the last week and got no "Yes, do it" from him.

Re: [freenet-dev] Ian et al: Poll conclusions

2016-12-06 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
Arne Babenhauserheide writes: > x...@freenetproject.org writes: >> There are some tough administrative decisions remaining to make about stage >> 3, >> namely which voters to exclude from stage 3 because they look like a sybil >> attack. > > I don’t like this

Re: [freenet-dev] Ian et al: Poll conclusions

2016-11-27 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
x...@freenetproject.org writes: > On Sunday, November 27, 2016 09:29:45 PM Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: >> x...@freenetproject.org writes: >> > There are some tough administrative decisions remaining to make about >> > stage 3, namely which voters to exclude from stage 3 because they look >> >

Re: [freenet-dev] Ian et al: Poll conclusions

2016-11-27 Thread xor
On Sunday, November 27, 2016 09:18:36 PM Matthew Toseland wrote: > On 27/11/16 21:08, x...@freenetproject.org wrote: > > That's OK, here's what happened: > > While most participants of the poll from IRC have been known in the > > community for years, 70% of the anonymous FMS participants created

Re: [freenet-dev] Ian et al: Poll conclusions

2016-11-27 Thread Matthew Toseland
On 27/11/16 21:08, x...@freenetproject.org wrote: > On Sunday, November 27, 2016 09:29:45 PM Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: >> x...@freenetproject.org writes: >>> There are some tough administrative decisions remaining to make about >>> stage 3, namely which voters to exclude from stage 3 because

Re: [freenet-dev] Ian et al: Poll conclusions

2016-11-27 Thread xor
On Sunday, November 27, 2016 09:29:45 PM Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > x...@freenetproject.org writes: > > There are some tough administrative decisions remaining to make about > > stage 3, namely which voters to exclude from stage 3 because they look > > like a sybil attack. > > I don’t like

Re: [freenet-dev] Ian et al: Poll conclusions

2016-11-27 Thread Arne Babenhauserheide
x...@freenetproject.org writes: > There are some tough administrative decisions remaining to make about stage > 3, > namely which voters to exclude from stage 3 because they look like a sybil > attack. I don’t like this behind-closed-doors-guessing-about-sybil. Instead, when I read the title,

Re: [freenet-dev] Ian et al: Poll conclusions

2016-11-27 Thread xor
On Sunday, November 27, 2016 06:48:38 PM Ian Clarke wrote: > On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 12:30 PM, x...@freenetproject.org > > First of all, I *am* completely willing to do these difficult decisions. > > > > Just not as a volunteer-looking-to-be-hired, the job decision has to > > happen first. > > So

Re: [freenet-dev] Ian et al: Poll conclusions

2016-11-27 Thread Ian Clarke
On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 12:30 PM, x...@freenetproject.org wrote:> I really don't understand how this could have been such a roadblock. If > there is obvious abuse then we just ignore that feedback. Why is this so > hard? It seems like you're looking for reasons to declare a democratic > process is

Re: [freenet-dev] Ian et al: Poll conclusions

2016-11-27 Thread xor
On Sunday, November 27, 2016 05:39:09 PM Ian Clarke wrote: > On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 11:18 AM, x...@freenetproject.org > wrote: > > Your initial goal with the poll was to prevent embezzlement of the funds. > > No, it was to choose priorities in a fair democratized way, as opposed to a > small number

Re: [freenet-dev] Ian et al: Poll conclusions

2016-11-27 Thread Ian Clarke
Your initial goal with the poll was to prevent embezzlement of the funds. No, it was to choose priorities in a fair democratized way, as opposed to a small number of people making all the decisions in a chat room that most people aren't part of (which resulted in what appears to be either

[freenet-dev] Ian et al: Poll conclusions

2016-11-27 Thread xor
Ian, this is inevitably gonna be longer than the length of mails you prefer, BUT: Its *main* goal is to fix the issue of you having to reply to even more, longer mails in the first place. So please read it, PLEASE :) Really, PLEASE read it :) - Your initial goal with the poll was to prevent