Re: [freenet-dev] Proposal for a democratic process to efficiently allocate resources (including the $25k)

On Tuesday, August 02, 2016 08:16:15 PM Florent Daigniere wrote: > This has been started three months ago now... and there hasn't been any > visible progress (nothing on this mailing list) for the last two. > What's up? > > It really makes the project look bad. Ian was too busy to finish it for

Re: [freenet-dev] Proposal for a democratic process to efficiently allocate resources (including the $25k)

On Tue, 2016-05-03 at 18:58 +, Ian Clarke wrote: > I've written a proposal for how we can do this, based on my learnings > over a > decade and a half of managing software projects (mostly commercial). > Feedback from the core team has been positive so-far, with the main > objection > being

Re: [freenet-dev] Proposal for a democratic process to efficiently allocate resources (including the $25k)

On 06/05/16 00:10, x...@freenetproject.org wrote: > On Friday, May 06, 2016 12:33:12 AM x...@freenetproject.org wrote: >> At the current exchange rate, it would be 23.6 hours/week. >> This is the average of what I had delivered during the past few months of >> work. In other words, the $27500 was

Re: [freenet-dev] Proposal for a democratic process to efficiently allocate resources (including the $25k)

On Thursday, May 05, 2016 11:51:17 PM Ian Clarke wrote: > So can I assume that, since the conversation went off on some weird tangent, > that everyone is comfortable with my proposal? Sorry, I don't want to block the procedure, was merely trying to help Arne with the numbers he didn't have. I

Re: [freenet-dev] Proposal for a democratic process to efficiently allocate resources (including the $25k)

So can I assume that, since the conversation went off on some weird tangent, that everyone is comfortable with my proposal? On Thu, May 5, 2016 6:35 PM, x...@freenetproject.org wrote: On Friday, May 06, 2016 01:27:29 AM Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Freitag, 6. Mai 2016, 00:33:12 schrieb

Re: [freenet-dev] Proposal for a democratic process to efficiently allocate resources (including the $25k)

On Friday, May 06, 2016 01:27:29 AM Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Freitag, 6. Mai 2016, 00:33:12 schrieb x...@freenetproject.org: > > You wouldn't have needed to blindguess them manually > > It wasn’t blindguessing. It was giving the numbers how Freenet can hire > peoplel without forcing them

[freenet-dev] Proposal for a democratic process to efficiently allocate resources (including the $25k)

Arne Babenhauserheide writes: > xor at freenetproject.org writes: > >> On Tuesday, May 03, 2016 10:03:03 PM Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: >>> As cost-metric I would suggest using full-time person-weeks. Reasons: >>> >>> - We have money for ~20 of these. That’s a number we can easily handle.

Re: [freenet-dev] Proposal for a democratic process to efficiently allocate resources (including the $25k)

Arne Babenhauserheide writes: > x...@freenetproject.org writes: > >> On Tuesday, May 03, 2016 10:03:03 PM Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: >>> As cost-metric I would suggest using full-time person-weeks. Reasons: >>> >>> - We have money for ~20 of these. That’s a number we can easily handle. >>> -

Re: [freenet-dev] Proposal for a democratic process to efficiently allocate resources (including the $25k)

On Wed, May 4, 2016 1:45 PM, Arne Babenhauserheide arne_...@web.de wrote: Ian Clarke writes:> Well, one important component of the allocation process is to start with an even > allocation of points between all tasks, Did I overlook that in the description? Yes you did, from my proposal:

Re: [freenet-dev] Proposal for a democratic process to efficiently allocate resources (including the $25k)

x...@freenetproject.org writes: > On Tuesday, May 03, 2016 10:03:03 PM Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: >> As cost-metric I would suggest using full-time person-weeks. Reasons: >> >> - We have money for ~20 of these. That’s a number we can easily handle. >> - Cost is very different from salary (by

Re: [freenet-dev] Proposal for a democratic process to efficiently allocate resources (including the $25k)

Ian Clarke writes: > Well, one important component of the allocation process is to start with an > even > allocation of points between all tasks, Did I overlook that in the description? > As cost-metric I would suggest using full-time person-weeks. > > The problem is that some things we could

Re: [freenet-dev] Proposal for a democratic process to efficiently allocate resources (including the $25k)

On Wednesday, May 04, 2016 12:40:38 AM x...@freenetproject.org wrote: > It might also be OK to have this be less than 25% until we have satisfied > our users with major new features being released. Nevermind, I am probably wrong with "less than 25%": I had only thought of the "code quality" part,

Re: [freenet-dev] Proposal for a democratic process to efficiently allocate resources (including the $25k)

On Tuesday, May 03, 2016 08:14:18 PM Ian Clarke wrote: > I agree that we can't be too granular with these tasks, if there are too > many then people will have trouble allocating intelligently between them. > However, I don't agree that if a task is less than a week's work that we > should

Re: [freenet-dev] Proposal for a democratic process to efficiently allocate resources (including the $25k)

On Tuesday, May 03, 2016 10:03:03 PM Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > As cost-metric I would suggest using full-time person-weeks. Reasons: > > - We have money for ~20 of these. That’s a number we can easily handle. > - Cost is very different from salary (by roughly factor 2). Time isn’t. Our

Re: [freenet-dev] Proposal for a democratic process to efficiently allocate resources (including the $25k)

On Tue, May 3, 2016 3:03 PM, Arne Babenhauserheide arne_...@web.de wrote:The intro shows values from 1 to 100, the later description uses 1 to 1000. Oops, fixed. I do not think 1000 points are useful in terms of limited volunteer time resources. How about making it 20? This then requires

Re: [freenet-dev] Proposal for a democratic process to efficiently allocate resources (including the $25k)

Ian Clarke writes: > I've written a proposal for how we can do this, based on my learnings over a > decade and a half of managing software projects (mostly commercial). > Feedback from the core team has been positive so-far, with the main objection > being that it may be too elaborate for our

Re: [freenet-dev] Proposal for a democratic process to efficiently allocate resources (including the $25k)

On Tue, May 3, 2016 2:14 PM, Michael Grube michael.gr...@gmail.com wrote: I think it can be implemented easily enough with intelligent use of Google Docs and a little bit of elbow grease, which I'm ok with providing if others can help.

Re: [freenet-dev] Proposal for a democratic process to efficiently allocate resources (including the $25k)

On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 2:58 PM, Ian Clarke wrote: > I've written a proposal for how we can do this, based on my learnings over > a > decade and a half of managing software projects (mostly commercial). > Feedback from the core team has been positive so-far, with the main

Re: [freenet-dev] Proposal for a democratic process to efficiently allocate resources (including the $25k)

I've changed my mind to support this! :) The 6 months of fundraising difficulties have left me in a state of very very high fear that the project may fail. My anxiety has lifted me into a state of perhaps somehow insane fear that a re-discussion of the project's goals could cause a failure as

[freenet-dev] Proposal for a democratic process to efficiently allocate resources (including the $25k)

I've written a proposal for how we can do this, based on my learnings over a decade and a half of managing software projects (mostly commercial). Feedback from the core team has been positive so-far, with the main objection being that it may be too elaborate for our needs. I think it can be