Hi Andy

Thank you for all the info about Joost/Venice. Sure, interacting with 
other users while watching TV might be useful, say, if a work group 
studies/edits a video together at distance - but then can't they use a 
chat in another window? Oh well, I guess it's a question of generation - 
maybe young people also enjoy actually chatting virtually while watching 
a film unfold.

But re:

Andy Carvin ha scritto:
> (...)It's much more
> immersive, with the video appearing borderless on your
> screen. All the navigation buttons are hidden or
> translucent, and only pop up into view when you move
> your mouse to the right corner. 

In Democracy 0.9.2 at least, you also have full-screen mode with 
translucent commands appearing when you move the mouse to the right 
corner. In Don McAllister's "SCO0064 - Democracy Player - Internet TV 
[Free Version]" tutorial http://www.videobomb.com/posts/show/7811, this 
is shown slightly after the half of the video

Btw, since this tutorial was posted, there have been a few minor changes 
in the Democracy interface, like the ashcans have been replaced by a 
"delete" link, but overall, it remains so far a good introduction, I 
think, so I "starred" it in videobomb, the interactive part of the 
Democracy project. And above all, Don McAllister was permitted by 
default to make it.

Another great feature of Democracy is that users are collaborating in 
translating the template into other languages. See 
<https://translations.launchpad.net/getdemocracy/trunk/+pots/getdemocracy>. 
Once I get the hang of the sliced up pages, I might dive in: it's the 
kind of online social interaction I enjoy (1). Does Joost plan to offer 
templates in several languages too? They'd have to pay the translators, 
though.

Conversedly,  I'm allergic to hype so  I'm allergic to Joost hype - you 
have been far more convincing, Andy. But it's not only that. It's in 
whose hands Joost will end in. Have you seen "Web 2.0 Podcast: A 
Conversation with Ross Levinsohn" 
<http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/network/2007/01/24/web-20-levinsohn.html>? 
   Joost wasn't mentioned, but as with You Tube, it seems that the 2 
main potential buyers for Joost will be Murdoch and Google. And if 
Murdoch wins this time, his influence, on political life too, will grow 
exponentially. And this. Anyone ready to make a 1984 video series for 
Joost? it would be great, full-screen. Oops, I forgot: Orwell's 1984 is 
under copyright and will be for a long while, thanks to the Sony Bono act.

Best

Claude

(1) Re online collaborative translation: I did a 70-page one with 
colleagues in Kinshasa last December. The pay was miserly, but it was a 
great experience. We used Google Docs because it autosaves regularly, 
and their only access to a computer was cybercafes where the line goes 
off unexpectedly, or they had to run away when street battles were 
coming too near. And I'd like to go further this way - also with textual 
transcription and captioning. Not at the slave-driving rates paid by 
http://castingwords.com/ (used by O'Reilly's show, for instance: that's 
how I found them), who outsource the transcriptions to "Turkers": see 
<http://turkers.proboards80.com/index.cgi?board=cwords&action=display&thread=1169641068>
 
or <http://tinyurl.com/2n4hnb>. But that's another story,
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