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[digitalradio] MMVARI Ver. 0.42 Beta Released

2007-01-16 Thread Andrew O'Brien
-- Forwarded message -- From: ve5kc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Jan 16, 2007 6:36 AM Subject: [MMVARI] MMVARI Ver. 0.42 Beta Released To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi guys.. The new version is now available from the MM Hamsoft website. MMVARI Ver. 0.42 Beta has only minor changes. The main

Re: [digitalradio] Re: HF Packet BBS?

2007-01-16 Thread KV9U
It is too bad that packet could not have advanced with new technology to make it work well on HF. In order for it to be able to work under many conditions, it needed to have the agility to change baud rates/packet sizes to match those conditions and it was really only designed for VHF and for

Re: [digitalradio] Re: HF Packet BBS?

2007-01-16 Thread Mark Milburn
My view would be that any change to the packet RADIO system to utilize the internet was a step in the direction of eliminating it altogether. The value of packet radio is the emphasis on the radio part. Once you say the system would be more useful if the end result was email, then why utilize

Re: [digitalradio] Re: HF Packet BBS?

2007-01-16 Thread Jose A. Amador
It seems I should state the part of the history I have lived. 1n 1991 I started with my C-64 and KPC-2 as user of several HF BBS's, on different frequencies, surfing the NETROM nodes, etc, until I settled as user of YV2AEH on 14095 LSB. It solved a problem I had not been told : stable mail

Re: [digitalradio] Re: HF Packet BBS?

2007-01-16 Thread KV9U
Well, the internet was reality and there was no way to stop it. The only way that radio amateurs could have prevented the linking to the internet would have been to making it illegal and I don't think many would support you on that. Radio by itself has a benefit. Primarily an emergency

Re: [digitalradio] Re: HF Packet BBS?

2007-01-16 Thread Jose A. Amador
KV9U wrote: E-mail is tremendously more useful than the hierarchical packet system because it works not just for hams, but for anyone with e-mail, which is ubiquitous in countries such as the U.S. What I wish for is a system that could do both. Most xNOS can do it. Say, GRINOS, TNOS,

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Pactor versus Olivia

2007-01-16 Thread Mark Miller
Rick, This is certainly lost on the Pactor III group. 73, Mark N5RFX having many small bandwidth users means more throughput for more users than one large bandwidth user at a time.

Re: [digitalradio] Re: HF Packet BBS?

2007-01-16 Thread Andrew O'Brien
Jose's comments have been helpful. I used VHF packet in the old days and also used the first satellite gateway on the east coast. run by my neighbour down the street! When I started this thread I had one goal in mind, a simple way that hams can send brief email without use of the Internet ,

Re: [digitalradio] Re: HF Packet BBS?

2007-01-16 Thread Steve Hajducek
Hi Andy, A system that implemented the ALE Data Block Message (DBM) ARQ protocol using the PC Sound Device Modem (PCSDM) which at a raw 125 baud with its deep interleaving providing a full 3x throughput on a good circuit where no ACK/NAK failures occurred would be much better. GTOR which

Re: [digitalradio] Re: HF Packet BBS?

2007-01-16 Thread KV9U
When you are using xNOS aren't you also needing to be using TCP/IP with considerable overhead? From what I have understood, using xNOS on a 1200 baud system is not really practical although at 9600 baud it is OK. Having said that, I know that JNOS2 now supports both HF and VHF. Unfortunately,

Re: [digitalradio] Re: HF Packet BBS?

2007-01-16 Thread KV9U
Steve and group, The part of ALE that has this ARQ mode sounds pretty good. Is it fair to say that the 8 tone modulation is actually closer to what Pactor 3 uses? The speed is a bit fast for many HF conditions but it has FEC as well as ARQ so like Pactor, is that why it tends to overcome some

[digitalradio] 110 baud packet testing

2007-01-16 Thread Bill McLaughlin
Hi all, on 3.5935 - AF 1500 - beaconing in 110 baud packet mode... 73 Bill N9DSJ

[digitalradio] MFSK with pictures??

2007-01-16 Thread Vince - KB9SJT
What software is available that will do MFSK with pictures, aside from Multipsk or Mix-W. Does the newer version of Stream have it? Thanks 73's Vince - KB9SJT

Re: [digitalradio] Re: HF Packet BBS?

2007-01-16 Thread kd4e
Mark Milburn wrote: Hi Rick.. You understand it exactly right. There are a few HF users, but most of the product of our efforts are VHF stations running bulletin boards who receive the messages by VHF nodes which are part of the HF packet station setup. We're just a bunch of stubborn

Re: [digitalradio] Re: HF Packet BBS?

2007-01-16 Thread John Bradley
I agree with Bill, there is a need for a short haul message system such as winlink, or a 300baud system which could work into an internet gateway For example, an area hit with tornado or other natural disaster which would disable the internet in the immediate area. This should work on HF since

Re: [digitalradio] Comparsion Between CW and Digital Modes

2007-01-16 Thread John Bradley
look at OLIVIA, have worked QRP stations on 80M out 1000 miles John VE5MU - Original Message - From: jeffnjr484 To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 6:54 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Comparsion Between CW and Digital Modes Im wondering does

[digitalradio] Ham Radio Deluxe and MMVARI

2007-01-16 Thread Andrew O'Brien
I returned to playing around with Ham Radio Deluxe and MMVARI tonight. With the specially designed HRDPTT file, they work together quite well. This gives you the full rig control beauty of HRD and the PSK, RTTY, MFSK16 modes within MMVARI. I assume I am correct in deducing that the two in

Re: [digitalradio] Comparsion Between CW and Digital Modes

2007-01-16 Thread ve3fwf
My view is that PSK31 is the most efficient from a spectrum usage and power usage point of view. Other modes have better error correction facilities but occupy more bandwidth. Olivia does a very good job copying signals that you can barely hear or see on the waterfall. For most people, 20 to 25

Re: [digitalradio] Re: HF Packet BBS?

2007-01-16 Thread Steve Hajducek
Hi Rick, The U.S. Declaration of Independence of late has become a popular MARS EXERCISE test message in testing MARS-ALE and with ALE DBM ARQ, that as the body of the message along with the standard MARS message header and tail takes just over 6 minutes if there are no ACK/NAK failures

[digitalradio] Are ham software authors afraid of ALE and associated protocols?

2007-01-16 Thread expeditionradio
KV9U [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried to find more information on the specifications but did not find any. I would not consider this mode to be legal on amateur radio frequencies until it has an easy to access specification as required by the FCC. This really should be detailed on the