Re: [digitalradio] ALE with MULTIPSK

2007-02-21 Thread KV9U
It seems like there are a rather large number of frequencies on each band for this mode. I could see perhaps one watering hole for ALE, particularly since it is such a wide band mode. One ALE signal will take up as much as all the PSK31 signals on a given band and probably even more than that

[digitalradio] Re: ALE with MULTIPSK

2007-02-21 Thread expeditionradio
Hi Rick, There is presently an appropriate number of frequencies for ALE in the international channel list. We originally started with more channels, and for a while we tried using less channels. Now it is just right for the present situation. Keep in mind that the frequencies are coordinated

RE: [digitalradio] Re: DEX vs. MT-63

2007-02-21 Thread DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA
Coding Coding ModeBaud Speed Correction Convolution Interleaving SNR (in dB) Bandwidth DominoEx11 10.766 77 WPM No No Not Stated Not Stated 194 Hz DominoEx22 21.533 154 WPM No

Re: [digitalradio] Test in Packet

2007-02-21 Thread Jose A. Amador
Miroslav Skoric (YT7MPB) wrote: Hello to all, I plan to make some test with JNOS or other derivatives and wonder what versions of *NOS might be ok for my old 80286 PC AT (12 MHz CPU, 1MB RAM, cca 10MB free space on HDD). That old comp I use now to telnet to my Pentium box running

[digitalradio] ALE with MULTIPSK + Tests of the MIL-STD-188-141A mode (ALE) and new modes Unproto and ARQ FAE

2007-02-21 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello to all, As said by Bonnie, Multipsk proposes now some basic ALE functions, but not in the official version (which is still 4.1.2). For instance, it is only under a test version. For the Hams interested by testing ALE, Unproto or ARQ FAE, here is the original test message. 73 Patrick

Re: [digitalradio] ALE with MULTIPSK + Tests of the MIL-STD-188-141A mode (ALE) and new modes Unproto and ARQ FAE

2007-02-21 Thread Steve Hajducek
Hello All, Patrick is to be commended on his efforts to date with regard to adding ALE capabilities to MultiPSK in support of Amateur Radio application single channel. I have been using his new a bit for the past two days and I find his new ARQ FAE protocol which is based on the DTM ARQ

Re: [digitalradio] ALE with MULTIPSK + Tests of the MIL-STD-188-141A mode (ALE) and new modes Unproto and ARQ FAE

2007-02-21 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Steve, TKS for your comment about ARQ FAE. Yes it is a mix of DTM ARQ (for the limited frames adjusted as needed by the number of characters to send), the DBM ARQ (for the interleaved way to mix bits, before correction by the Golay decoding, which permits to gain perhaps 2 dB on the

[digitalradio] 141A and ALE (multipsk)

2007-02-21 Thread John Bradley
have been on 14109.5 with Terry, VE5TLW on and off all day , trying to get ARQ FAE to work... finally had success, and it was something simple, I had VOX delay on, and when my data stream ended, the TX stayed on for that split second longer, partly covering up the response from the other

Re: [digitalradio] 141A and ALE (multipsk)

2007-02-21 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello John, TKS for info. I had VOX delay on, and when my data stream ended, the TX stayed on for that split second longer, partly covering up the response Yes VOX is too slow. ARQ FAE seems Pactor as frames are short (but not so short as in Pactor) and the exchange fast. The RX/TX switching

Re: [digitalradio] 141A and ALE (multipsk)

2007-02-21 Thread John Bradley
It does work fine on my TS480SAT, using VOX but with the VOX delay off looking forward to trying it over some distance John - Original Message - From: Patrick Lindecker To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007

[digitalradio] ALE and 141A

2007-02-21 Thread John Bradley
as of 0300Z beaconing on 3587.50 and ready to try 141A , the new multiPSK mode . tried locally earlier and works like a charm John VE5MU ps : have 24/7 toll free phone anywhere in North America so if you want to talk thru this , email me a phone number and will help you set it up jb

[digitalradio] Re: ALE and 141A

2007-02-21 Thread Bill McLaughlin
Hi John, It worked really well despite me being a moron! Sorry to cut it short due to work looming soon. Copied you and VE5TLW fine once I sorted things outARQ FAE is most interesting! thanks again, 73, Bill N9DSJ --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, John Bradley [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ALE and 141A

2007-02-21 Thread John Bradley
no problem as i said I have a toll free here anywhere in North America so can walk u thru it sigs not real strong... but it is a great mode, Terry and I were fooling with this earlier today and got it working between us tnx fer the try John - Original Message - From:

[digitalradio] ARQ FAE

2007-02-21 Thread John Bradley
patrick ... managed to connect briefly on noisy conditions with N9DSJ, and using long frames. would have worked better with short frames but is great working under very marginal condx... looking forward to more experiments hi hi are you going to try 20m this weekend ? John VE5MU

[digitalradio] Re: ALE and 141A

2007-02-21 Thread Bill McLaughlin
Was fun...despite decades of reading raw packets on ax.25 and NOS, setting display of messages only under options made it alot easier later on. In spite my meger 15 watts and Pactor qrm it worked surprisingly well; obviously a mode worthy of more experimentation. Thanks John and Patrick