Re: [digitalradio] Gray Areas of USA Ham Radio Regulations and Rules

2007-03-20 Thread Dave Ingram
Danny Douglas wrote: I certainly have MY doubts that many hams would live the goodie life if there were no regulations. Just take a look where there ARE regulations; the US highways, and see how many Americans pay attention to the law. Yes, the majority would try to do so, but the minority,

[digitalradio] Re: Gray Areas of USA Ham Radio Regulations and Rules

2007-03-20 Thread Brad
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Dave Ingram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Australia's restrictions on methods of operating rather than modes of operating are frustrating though. No phone patches, IRLP only recently etc. 73s, Dave. Dave, we can run phone patches here, that was

[digitalradio] Re: MPSK vs OFDM vs MFSK for HF High Speed Data

2007-03-20 Thread cesco12342000
So using multimulticarrier soundmodem with a YaeComWood + 1kW PA will only heat your ham shack without other useful effect. Negative. The grounded-grid PA's have no negative effect on SNR if tuned right (tuned for peak power). Those PA's have better lineariy than the 100W push-pull

Re: [digitalradio] Gray Areas of USA Ham Radio Regulations and Rules

2007-03-20 Thread Danny Douglas
I was trying to do some RTTY QSOs last night, on 40, and everytime I found a clear freq, started transmitting a CQ, some South American QRM on SSB came up right on top of me. Tuning around I found at least a dozen Spanish QSOs between 7.050 and 7.01. They are authorized there, and be damn if

Re: [digitalradio] legal Mode guidelines

2007-03-20 Thread kv9u
You really had me going with the length of time it takes to get an STA. Glad to hear it is of a more reasonable time. I do wish they would allow longer STA testing periods, but I quite agree that since they will likely allow any reasonable experiment, you are fairly safe in getting the

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Gray Areas of Ham Radio Regulations and Rules

2007-03-20 Thread kv9u
Yes, Chris, But that is only in the text data sub bands. The voice/image/fax areas would allow it as long as it is a published protocol. Do you think that it is unreasonable to have some kind of published protocol? If it had the published protocol, would you be opposed to using it on the HF

[digitalradio] Gray areas of US ham Regs

2007-03-20 Thread John Bradley
Danny wrote: Less QRM from stateside stations above 7.1, and to keep stateside stations from calling them. They were NOT trying to DX, so any place above 7.1 would have worked (of course avoiding short wave broadcast). I don't know how many times on SSB , while having a chat with a friend, I

[digitalradio] Re: Gray Areas of Ham Radio Regulations and Rules

2007-03-20 Thread jhaynesatalumni
The cross-cultural part of this discussion reminded me of a broadcast by the late Alistair Cooke. He had just read a book by a U.S. lawyer, who asserted that the thicket of regulations in the U.S. covering every aspect of the law had begun with the Johnson administration and the War on Poverty.

[digitalradio] 30M 141A Beacon

2007-03-20 Thread John Bradley
Beaconing at VFO 10137.5 (+1625 hz) , 30 seconds, mode 141A, 30M is the only band open up here today this at 1630Z... John VE5MU

Re: [digitalradio] Gray areas of US ham Regs

2007-03-20 Thread Danny Douglas
I know that John, and its pretty sad. I had the same problem in Hong Kong when I called DX. Japan thought they were DX, but I didnt even count the cards from there, I just weighed them by the pound. Even here in Virginia, I can call CQ DX and more than likely have at least one or two

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Gray Areas of Ham Radio Regulations and Rules

2007-03-20 Thread Danny Douglas
I had always heard ( and believed) that our law here was patterned after English Commo Law - until I lived in England for 6 plus years. No Way Jose. Things were done totally different between the two, and then you throw in the English Colony of Hong Kong, and it was even more confusing. I got

RE: [digitalradio] Gray areas of US ham Regs

2007-03-20 Thread DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA
HumDXing is the hobby of tuning in and identifying distant radio signals, or making two way radio contact with distant stations in amateur radio. The term DX gets its name the CW abbreviation DX, for distance or distant. Distant 1 a : separated in space : AWAY a mile distant b : situated

[digitalradio] 7050kHz-7100kHz SSB vs Digi Data/Texting

2007-03-20 Thread expeditionradio
Danny Douglas N7DC wrote: I was trying to do some RTTY QSOs last night, ... some South American QRM on SSB came up right on top of me. Tuning around I found at least a dozen Spanish QSOs between 7.050 and 7.01. ... Now, I know the rest of the world HAS to use that portion for SSB,

[digitalradio] Re: CQ CH?

2007-03-20 Thread wb0m
CQ County Hunters. Dave wrote: What is CQ CH? I'm used to seeing CQ WY, or CQ ID, or even CQ KL7, but CH has me puzzled. Just heard it on PSK31 on 30 meters. Tnx es 73 Dave KB3MOW

[digitalradio] Re: 30M 141A Beacon

2007-03-20 Thread expeditionradio
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, John Bradley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Beaconing at VFO 10137.5 (+1625 hz) , 30 seconds, mode 141A, 30M is the only band open up here today this at 1630Z... John VE5MU Hi John, My ALE is running (including 10MHz) but it only scans the ALE

[digitalradio] Re: Getting RFSM2400 Approved for US Hams

2007-03-20 Thread Bill McLaughlin
Hi John, No problem; I would be happy to help work towards an STA for RFSM2400, if that is indeed a worthy goal. Think part of the issue is that due to our position in the sunspot cycle *usable* bandwidth for experimentation, at least in the evenings in North America, is very limited. Would

[digitalradio] Re: Getting RFSM2400 Approved for US Hams

2007-03-20 Thread expeditionradio
Bill N9DSJ wrote: I would be happy to help work towards an STA for RFSM2400, if that is indeed a worthy goal. Think part of the issue is that due to our position in the sunspot cycle *usable* bandwidth for experimentation, at least in the evenings in North America, is very limited.

[digitalradio] Bonnie KQ6XA

2007-03-20 Thread Gilles Paré
Thanks, Bonnie, for the answer you gave abt 40 meters. I learned a lot and I agree. Gilles ve2ft -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.15/728 - Release Date: 2007-03-20 08:07 attachment: Notebook.jpg

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Getting RFSM2400 Approved for US Hams

2007-03-20 Thread kd4e
Go for it! Better to get started with the bureaucracy and later withdraw the request than to wait and wait for a solution from another direction only to lose time. Spectrum availability on 80M in the evening will vary depending on where you are located. There is heavy local activity on 80M

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Getting RFSM2400 Approved for US Hams

2007-03-20 Thread John Champa
OK. I'd be glad to helpif Bruce doesn't mind! (HI) I haven't done a search yet. Does anyone have a copy of the protocol? 73, John - K8OCL Original Message Follows From: kd4e [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL

Re: [digitalradio] Re: CQ CH?

2007-03-20 Thread Joe Serocki
Here Here! Even back in the day when I ran RTTY on a HW-101 (really) people on digital modes were more polite, less antagonistic, and in my humble opinion, had better operating practices. CW came second, and phone a LONG third. Want to reinforce this? Listen to the loonies on 75 Phone, 14.275,

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Getting RFSM2400 Approved for US Hams

2007-03-20 Thread John Champa
Found this, but there not much activity yet... http://www.eham.net/forums/Digital/3369 Original Message Follows From: kd4e [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re:

[digitalradio] Re: CQ CH?

2007-03-20 Thread Bill McLaughlin
I can do a sked :) 73, Bill N9DSJ --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Joe Serocki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: {snipped} TRY to find someone on any rant on a digital mode. {end snip}

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Getting RFSM2400 Approved for US Hams

2007-03-20 Thread John Champa
Bill, Well, I was not planning to go for an STA. I don't think it is needed IMHO, publication and an ARRL legal review will be sufficient. John K8OCL Original Message Follows From: Bill McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com

[digitalradio] Fw: Fwd: (CARMA) Fire: Unintelligibility of Digital Radio Transmissions

2007-03-20 Thread Mark Thompson
In a message dated 3/20/2007 7:00:50 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: IAFC MEMBER ALERT: FOR IMMEDIATE REVIEW Contact: IAFC Communications Department www.iafc.org Common Fireground Noise May Cause Unintelligibility of Digital Radio Transmissions Fairfax, Va., Mar.

[digitalradio] Re: Getting RFSM2400 Approved for US Hams

2007-03-20 Thread expeditionradio
Bonnie, I wasn't going to go after an STA, just an ARRL legal review. John Hi John, That may be premature, because the RFSM is still under development, going through changes as we speak. The MIL STD 188-110 standard and FS-1052 that RFSM uses, is printed by the US Govt, for general

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Getting RFSM2400 Approved for US Hams

2007-03-20 Thread John Champa
Roger! I will await your posting on HFLINK. Original Message Follows From: expeditionradio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Getting RFSM2400 Approved for US Hams Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 02:28:10 -

Re: [digitalradio] Gray areas of US ham Regs

2007-03-20 Thread Jose A. Amador
I would say it depends a lot on the ops and the bands. On 6, a common HF distance becomes DX, and on 2 meters, Puerto Rico, Baltimore, or even, Grand Cayman is DX. YMMV Jose, CO2JA - DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA wrote: HumDXing is the hobby of tuning in and identifying

Re: [digitalradio] 7050kHz-7100kHz SSB vs Digi Data/Texting

2007-03-20 Thread Jose A. Amador
Here in Cuba we do not have those freebanders, but sometimes I can hear them on 7000, 1, and even 14103 yesterday, with quite coarse language. Here in Havana we get quite strong QRM from the european broadcasters starting on 7105 since a bit earlier of sunset until sunrise in Europe,