RE: [digitalradio] AX.25 vs Something New

2008-08-09 Thread Rud Merriam
://thehamnetwork.net/ -Original Message- From: Chuck Mayfield - AA5J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 7:12 AM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] AX.25 vs Something New Rud, I said It was in the Design http://wiki.seds.org/index.php/SEDSAT

Re: [digitalradio] AX.25 vs Something New

2008-08-08 Thread Rick W.
I have not heard of anyone doing this, but it sounds like it could be an improvement. Is anyone on the group experimenting with such proposals? 73, Rick, KV9U Chuck Mayfield - AA5J wrote: Bill Vodall WA7NWP wrote: Phil's paper is from many years ago but the reality is that there was no

Re: [digitalradio] AX.25 vs Something New

2008-08-08 Thread Chuck Mayfield - AA5J
Several modems on that link claim fx.25 compatibility; TNC-X comes to mind, but they all seem to have been developed for VHF/UHF use, so YMMV on HF. Chuck AA5J Rick W. wrote: I have not heard of anyone doing this, but it sounds like it could be an improvement. Is anyone on the group

Re: [digitalradio] AX.25 vs Something New

2008-08-08 Thread Jose A. Amador
As I understood in a quick reading, this is aiming at keeping the modem and adding intelligent redundancy, specially for beacons and telemetry. The older equipment just receives some more harmless digital rubbish, and could even receive the same packets with no improvements. Interesting,

RE: [digitalradio] AX.25 vs Something New

2008-08-08 Thread Rud Merriam
: Friday, August 08, 2008 3:47 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] AX.25 vs Something New Several modems on that link claim fx.25 compatibility; TNC-X comes to mind, but they all seem to have been developed for VHF/UHF use, so YMMV on HF. Chuck AA5J

Re: [digitalradio] AX.25 vs Something New

2008-08-07 Thread Jose A. Amador
Rud Merriam wrote: I suggest anyone interested in this topic start by reading http://citeseer.ist.psu.edu/cache/papers/cs/2504/http:zSzzSzpeople.qualcomm. com/karnz/papers/newlinkpaper.pdf/karn94toward.pdf by Phil Karn KA9Q. If anyone does not recognize his name or call then research him

Re: [digitalradio] AX.25 vs Something New

2008-08-07 Thread Bill Vodall WA7NWP
Phil's paper is from many years ago but the reality is that there was no further movement away from the legacy AX.25 equipment toward a new layer, much less toward a completely new protocol. There is some movement... Check out: FX.25 - Forward Error Correction Extension to AX.25 Link

Re: [digitalradio] AX.25 vs Something New

2008-08-07 Thread Chuck Mayfield - AA5J
Bill Vodall WA7NWP wrote: Phil's paper is from many years ago but the reality is that there was no further movement away from the legacy AX.25 equipment toward a new layer, much less toward a completely new protocol. There is some movement... Check out: FX.25 - Forward Error

[digitalradio] AX.25 vs Something New

2008-08-06 Thread Rud Merriam
I suggest anyone interested in this topic start by reading http://citeseer.ist.psu.edu/cache/papers/cs/2504/http:zSzzSzpeople.qualcomm. comzSzkarnzSzpaperszSznewlinkpaper.pdf/karn94toward.pdf by Phil Karn KA9Q. If anyone does not recognize his name or call then research him because he is an icon

Re: [digitalradio] AX.25 vs Something New

2008-08-06 Thread Chuck Mayfield - AA5J
Rud Merriam wrote: I suggest anyone interested in this topic start by reading http://citeseer.ist.psu.edu/cache/papers/cs/2504/http:zSzzSzpeople.qualcomm. http://citeseer.ist.psu.edu/cache/papers/cs/2504/http:zSzzSzpeople.qualcomm. comzSzkarnzSzpaperszSznewlinkpaper.pdf/karn94toward.pdf by

Re: [digitalradio] AX.25 vs Something New

2008-08-06 Thread Chuck Mayfield - AA5J
Rud Merriam wrote: You mention protocol layers. Which model do you want to use for discussion, OSI or the Internet model? Perhaps not a big question since layers 1 2 are the same but once we start moving up the stack they differ. I have a problem with the formatting on this

RE: [digitalradio] AX.25 vs Something New

2008-08-06 Thread Rud Merriam
://TheHamNetwork.net -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck Mayfield - AA5J Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 10:27 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] AX.25 vs Something New Rud Merriam wrote: I suggest