Robert,
The reason that radio amateurs discussing automatic operation would use
the term is primarily because that is the term used under Part 97. On
the other hand Part 97 does not reference the word unattended.
We need to insure we are talking the same language, and not substitute
It would seem that automatic is a word that provokes un-helpful
discussion. Since no meaningful discussion can be held without shared terms
and meanings, maybe we could consider the following definitions rather than
using the nebulous and diverse automatic:
Unattended: Cases where there is no
Bonnie if you are always this untrustworthy, i better remove the link to
your homepage from mine:
/- 1. It has an AUTOMATIC button. /
Which button is that? I must be blind, I have conducted more that 1500
QSO whith WSJT in various modes, and have never had a glimpse of such a
button...
/- 2.
expeditionradio wrote:
JT65a is certainly an automatic mode. It is as automatic as any other
automatic system. It perfectly fits the definitions of automatic in
both the strictest sense and in many other ways, figuratively,
literally and as used in RF communications:
It sounds like a
OZ1PIF/5Q2M, Peter wrote:
/- 1. It has an AUTOMATIC button. /
Which button is that? I must be blind,
Hi Peter,
The JT65A automatic button is the button labeled:
AUTO IS ON
You can easily see the Auto button in this image,
it is red color:
http://www.obriensweb.com/image15.jpg
JT65A is a
Not at all. It is a mode where humans must decide if a QSO is valid.
EME ops are certainly picky about this. It is meant for EME, it was not
created as another automatic box. Of course, it has proven useful for
extreme HF DX as well, which is not as extreme as EME may prove to be.
I would
Roger,
The real thing that gets in my craw about JT65 is the 60 second
continuous transmissions for each QSO segment. On HF, this could
surely be reduced to 30 seconds or less. I've yet to have really weak
ones reply that would have needed the long decode period. I
understand the need for
Hello Bonnie,
Not sure I proved anything :)
If I fall asleep on my keyer is that an unattended CW mode?
If I leave my vox on and background noise keys the xmitter is that
an attended SSB mode?
What is at issue is *intentional* automatic modes, not my cat
stepping on the ptt.
JT65 is not an
Bill N9DSJ wrote:
JT65 is not an automatic or semi-automatic mode in any sense of the
definition.
Bill,
JT65a is certainly an automatic mode.
It is as automatic as any other automatic system.
It perfectly fits the definitions of automatic in both the strictest
sense and in many other
*confused look*
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, expeditionradio
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bill N9DSJ wrote:
JT65 is not an automatic or semi-automatic mode in any sense of
the
definition.
Bill,
JT65a is certainly an automatic mode.
It is as automatic as any other automatic
Bill N9DSJ wrote:
I would be hard pressed to
fit JT modes into any definition of unattended, semi-automatic
or automatic operation.
Hi Bill,
You proved my point that what we now consider just a normal feature of
software or radio operation, is something that we once considered
automatic
You've missed the point entirely. From what several JT65 users
reported, these automatic capabilities are there to assist an
operator who sees the decoded receiver output and would not initiate
transmission if the frequency were in use. The station is not running
unattended.
Does writing case
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