Something I never have quite understood is that in the late 90's in 
Indonesia, hams have used
1200 baud satellite PSK modems on 40 meters with seemingly good results.

It has been a bit hard for me to follow that. Does anyone have a 
sensible explanation
for this to be useful. I do not own such a modem, nor found anyone on 
those days to
gove it a try. And I had almost forgotten about it.

It seems that a 16 dB adventage for PSK125 is not trivial...it will work 
when the other won't
or will work equally with 40 times less power...

73 de Jose, CO2JA


KV9U wrote:

>  According to the information in the help files from Multipsk:
>
>  1200 baud Packet = 1320 wpm
>
>  BPSK125 = 148 wpm capital and 204 wpm small letter average speed at
>  about -8 db S/N
>
>  Of course this assumes that both have good signal strengths and there
>  are no hits. If the PSK125 mode takes a hit it keeps on sending and
>  the receiving station gets errors. If the packet receiving station
>  gets errors, it requires retries and since this mode also requires
>  much greater signal strength to operate, it can easily have zero
>  throughput and time out eventally after many retries. Packet may need
>  something like +8 db S/N to function. This means it is about the same
>  or slightly worse than the OFDM mode used in digital SSTV programs.
>
>  Anyone else have more real world numbers?
>
>  73,
>
>  Rick, KV9U
>
>  Walt DuBose wrote:
>
> > Here is an interesting question...
> >
> > What is the user throughput in WPM or CPS (what you see on your
> > monitor) in 1200 baud AX.25 and the 190-200 WPM user throughput of
> > PSK125?
> >
> > I have send many, many pure SMTP messages using sendmail over AX.25
> > KISS mode with a NOS stack.
> >
> > I have also worked with HTML message/E-Mail templates and find only
> > a couple hundred characters different in the template
> > E-Mails/messages and those that are full and complete E-Mail such
> > as used by sendmail.
> >
> > Walt/K5YFW

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