Re: [digitalradio] Path Simulator Test - PSK FEC31

2008-08-22 Thread Tony
Mark, Why would one use a 3 kHz bandwidth for a 100 Hz wide mode? Wouldn't it be more realistic to do comparisons based on a noise bandwidth that is the same as or just slightly wider than the signal bandwidth? I don't have a choice in the matter because the band pass filter is fixed at

Re: [digitalradio] Path Simulator Test - PSK FEC31

2008-08-22 Thread Tony
- Original Message - From: Mark Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 9:36 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Path Simulator Test - PSK FEC31 At 04:31 PM 8/21/2008, Tony wrote: The path simulator adds Gaussian white noise to the input

Re: [digitalradio] Path Simulator Test - PSK FEC31

2008-08-21 Thread Mark Miller
If the SNR is negative, how is it that you can copy any signal? 73, Mark N5RFX At 02:36 AM 8/21/2008, Tony wrote: __ Sensitivity Test - Direct Path (no ionospheric disturbance) Minimum SNR for error-free copy Contestia 500/32-15db

Re: [digitalradio] Path Simulator Test - PSK FEC31

2008-08-21 Thread Tony
just weaker than the noise. Tony, K2MO - Original Message - From: Mark Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com; digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 5:42 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Path Simulator Test - PSK FEC31 If the SNR is negative, how

Re: [digitalradio] Path Simulator Test - PSK FEC31

2008-08-21 Thread Paul L Schmidt, K9PS
Why would one use a 3 kHz bandwidth for a 100 Hz wide mode? Wouldn't it be more realistic to do comparisons based on a noise bandwidth that is the same as or just slightly wider than the signal bandwidth? - ps Tony wrote: Mark, If the SNR is negative, how is it that you can copy any signal?

Re: [digitalradio] Path Simulator Test - PSK FEC31

2008-08-21 Thread Mark Miller
At 04:31 PM 8/21/2008, Tony wrote: The path simulator adds Gaussian white noise to the input signal to simulate a signal-to-noise ratio through a 3KHz band pass filter. If the SNR is less than 0, it's below the noise level. Tony, thanks the bandwidth is 3K for all modes that is what was

Re: [digitalradio] Path Simulator Test - PSK FEC31

2008-08-21 Thread Jose A. Amador
] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com; digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 5:42 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Path Simulator Test - PSK FEC31 If the SNR is negative, how is it that you can copy any signal? 73, Mark N5RFX At 02:36 AM 8/21/2008, Tony wrote