Re: [digitalradio] Licensing of Pactor modes - Source code and detailed specifications

2007-12-31 Thread Simon Brown
- Original Message - From: f6cte [EMAIL PROTECTED] However, you can directly use the code without understand it but it is not the way I do because it is without interest. One main reason why PSK became so popular was that source code was made available early on. Many have implemented

Re: [digitalradio] Licensing of Pactor modes - Source code and detailed specifications

2007-12-31 Thread Rein Couperus
There is so much work involved in writing a fool-proof program with a good user interface that having to also write the encoding / decoding interface would make sure projects unfeasible for a single programmer who codes in his spare time. Simon HB9DRV I can second that :) Rein

Re: [digitalradio] Digital Radio Century Club JT65A New Years Crawl, 12/31/2007, 6:00 pm

2007-12-31 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mark Thompson wrote: Digital Radio Century Club JT65A New Years Crawl Updated rules and new operating times below... -- Default

Re: [digitalradio] Shameless promotion of FAE 400

2007-12-31 Thread Rick
Hi Jack, In the later part of the message I mentioned that with the last station, we tried another mode and I suggested DEX 4 (Domino EX 4 baud) which we went to as a comparison. It is quite slow compared to the speed of FAE 400 but it performed moderately well but with some hits on my end.

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Is PACTOR I Actually DEAD For KBD - KBD?

2007-12-31 Thread Rick
Elaine and I had some attempts to work each other the past few days as I heard her on the bands but we were always quite weak to each other. If we had been using Pactor modems, especially those from non SCS manufacturers, I doubt that we would have had any luck connecting. We did have a small

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Is PACTOR I Actually DEAD For KBD - KBD?

2007-12-31 Thread dalite01
I will add that I was monitoring Keyboard to Keyboard Pactor the other night on both the main rig using a soundcard and MixW with Inverted VEE up around 35 feet with ends around 10 feet, using Kenwood TS 2000, while also monitoring same QSO with Portable station using SCS controller and

Re: [digitalradio] PSKmail

2007-12-31 Thread Howard Brown
That is what I would like to do - use pskmail as an internet gateway for an AX25 network on VHF with a TNC like my KAM+. Do I understand that this might not be a big deal? If you also wanted to add the afsk modem, perhaps it might be helpful to examine the source code (in C) for Thomas

[digitalradio] Re: ALE400 and FAE

2007-12-31 Thread f6cte
Hello Rick and John, when to use ALE 400 and when to use FAE 400. Personally, I would rather I see this as in ALE (but I'm not a specialist): you can do soundings or calls (QRZ for example) to say notify your presence in the band and after the link with a Ham, you both begin exchanging

[digitalradio] Re: Shameless promotion of FAE 400

2007-12-31 Thread f6cte
Rick, RR for all the experimentation done. with the typing speed. Since you can not backspace for an error (similar to RTTY) I do tend to make some xxx characters at times As, some time ago, you pointed out this issue, I fixed it in the very last version of Multipsk. Now you can use backspace

[digitalradio] Re: Licensing of Pactor modes - Source code and detailed specifications

2007-12-31 Thread f6cte
Hello Simon, There is so much work involved in writing a fool-proof program with a good user interface that having to also write the encoding / decoding interface RR for all. Yes I understand and it's true that detailed specifications + source code as Peter have done with PSK31 was the

[digitalradio] Re: Is PACTOR I Actually DEAD For KBD - KBD?

2007-12-31 Thread Nick
CQing on 14.0755 Pactor ARQ FWIW... de Nick KU2A FN42dw

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Is PACTOR I Actually DEAD For KBD - KBD?

2007-12-31 Thread w6ids
- Original Message - From: Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Is PACTOR I Actually DEAD For KBD - KBD? Elaine and I had some attempts to work each other the past few days as I heard her on

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Is PACTOR I Actually DEAD For KBD - KBD?

2007-12-31 Thread Roger J. Buffington
Nick wrote: CQing on 14.0755 Pactor ARQ FWIW... de Nick KU2A FN42dw How does one CQ in Pactor ARQ? de Roger W6VZV

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Is PACTOR I Actually DEAD For KBD - KBD?

2007-12-31 Thread Sholto Fisher
You don't, you would use either Pactor-1 FEC or RTTY to call CQ first. 73 Sholto KE7HPV. - Original Message - From: Roger J. Buffington [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Is PACTOR I Actually DEAD

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Is PACTOR I Actually DEAD For KBD - KBD?

2007-12-31 Thread w6ids
SHEESH! Apologies to All... looks like a bit of operator error is apparent with the message below. I was editing a reply and probably pushed the wrong switch as I got up to take care of a chore. Sorry for the trash being sent. Howard W6IDS Richmond, IN - Original Message - From:

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Is PACTOR I Actually DEAD For KBD - KBD?

2007-12-31 Thread Roger J. Buffington
Sholto Fisher wrote: You don't, you would use either Pactor-1 FEC or RTTY to call CQ first. Yes, I know. That was my point. I haven't heard a Pactor FEC signal in 3 or 4 years. de Roger W6VZV

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Is PACTOR I Actually DEAD For KBD - KBD?

2007-12-31 Thread Sholto Fisher
You know I head a Pactor-1 FEC call around 14,061 a couple days ago but I don't have my PK-232 anymore so couldn't reply. I wonder if it was someone in this group? 73 Sholto KE7HPV. - Original Message - From: Roger J. Buffington [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent:

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Is PACTOR I Actually DEAD For KBD - KBD?

2007-12-31 Thread Roger J. Buffington
Sholto Fisher wrote: You know I head a Pactor-1 FEC call around 14,061 a couple days ago but I don't have my PK-232 anymore so couldn't reply. I wonder if it was someone in this group? 73 Sholto KE7HPV. I might be wrong but I think that MixW can parse Pactor1 FEC. de Roger W6VZV

[digitalradio] Re: Is PACTOR I Actually DEAD For KBD - KBD?

2007-12-31 Thread Demetre SV1UY
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CQing on 14.0755 Pactor ARQ FWIW... de Nick KU2A FN42dw Hi Nick, I can be QRV tomorrow (1/1/08) between 14 and 16 UTC on that frequency if you wish. The MUF will be around 16-17 MHZ during these times so we should be OK. Is

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Is PACTOR I Actually DEAD For KBD - KBD?

2007-12-31 Thread w6ids
- Original Message - From: Roger J. Buffington [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 2:28 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Is PACTOR I Actually DEAD For KBD - KBD? I was active on the TNC modes, i.e. Amtor, Pactor, RTTY for a lot of

Re: [digitalradio] Re: [illinoisdigitalham] Re: Power Mask for Bandwidth Rules - USA

2007-12-31 Thread John B. Stephensen
Ham radio is supposed to do both. One of my ham neighbors in LA checked into an 80 meter AM net almost every night with the same model rig that he used in the 1950's. 73, John KD6OZH - Original Message - From: W2XJ To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Shameless promotion of FAE 400

2007-12-31 Thread Rick
I think I have the most current version. It apparently does not work like say PSK31 as it did not seem to remove the error, but from now one I will backspace and just assumer that it is being taken care of, HIHI 73, Rick, KV9U f6cte wrote: Rick, RR for all the experimentation done.

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Is PACTOR I Actually DEAD For KBD - KBD?

2007-12-31 Thread F.R. Ashley
Howard, I've read where the thinking is that most hams won't bother with the PACTOR I if only because of little desire to buy an expensive outboard TNC. What about the hams who never threw away their original TNC, the one sitting in the closet per se? I've often wondered the same thing.

[digitalradio] Re: Is PACTOR I Actually DEAD For KBD - KBD?

2007-12-31 Thread Nick
OK congrats on the technicality but my point was looking for ARQ response. If someone replies FEC with a soundcard I'll answer. --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Roger J. Buffington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nick wrote: CQing on 14.0755 Pactor ARQ FWIW... de Nick KU2A FN42dw How does

Re: [digitalradio] Shameless promotion of FAE 400

2007-12-31 Thread Rick
Are you saying that DEX works better than other modes? Or about the same? I did quite a bit of NVIS testing of DEX/FEC11 and other speeds too as my hope was that this would work better than any other sound card mode. But it just did not work out that way as we found other modes to work about

[digitalradio] Re: Is PACTOR I Actually DEAD For KBD - KBD?

2007-12-31 Thread Nick
Hi Demetre That would be 14.0755 center freq AFSK. I am terrible with schedules due to commitments but will try to call CQ at times between 14 and 16z on 1/1/08. My 20m antenna at present is a G5RV and there is a hill in the direction of EU. We are in this QTH for another 3 months then will be

[digitalradio] Standard sideband for digi modes?

2007-12-31 Thread Zack
What is the standard rule for sidebands for the digital modes? Are all bands 160-6 USB (for RTTY, PSK, WSJT, etc)? I have been looking for this info but have not found it. A web link would be very helpful! Thanks Zack N8FNR

Re: [digitalradio] Bozo's guide to RM-11392

2007-12-31 Thread Tom Hayes
Good one Andy! I like your sense of humor. Tom VE6WCF - Original Message From: Andrew O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 9:04:04 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Bozo's guide to RM-11392 OK, I am coming to this issue rather late

[digitalradio] Moderator Action: WB9QZB. JT65A Contest

2007-12-31 Thread Andrew O'Brien
Mark, I have tried to contact you privately (a couple of weeks ago) about forwarding or reposting old messages to this group. I did not receive a reply. I wonder if you are confused about which Yahoogroup you are sending to? In the the message below, you appear to have re-posted a message

Re: [digitalradio] Standard sideband for digi modes?

2007-12-31 Thread Ralph Mowery
--- Zack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the standard rule for sidebands for the digital modes? Are all bands 160-6 USB (for RTTY, PSK, WSJT, etc)? I have been looking for this info but have not found it. A web link would be very helpful! Thanks Zack N8FNR RTTY in the ham bands

Re: [digitalradio] Standard sideband for digi modes?

2007-12-31 Thread Kevin O'Rorke
Ralph Mowery wrote: --- Zack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the standard rule for sidebands for the digital modes? Are all bands 160-6 USB (for RTTY, PSK, WSJT, etc)? I have been looking for this info but have not found it. A web link would be very helpful! Thanks Zack N8FNR

[digitalradio] Re: Standard sideband for digi modes?

2007-12-31 Thread Zack
Thanks for the replies. I thought that there wa something different about RTTY. Zack \--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Kevin O'Rorke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ralph Mowery wrote: --- Zack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the standard rule for sidebands for the digital modes?

[digitalradio] WSJT contest

2007-12-31 Thread Russell Blair
Well now I need to go and read up on this mode agin, I didn't know where I was Txing. Is there a newer version I'm running 5.9.6.R309 Russell NC5O/qrp = IN GOD WE TRUST ! = Russell Blair NC5O Skype-Russell Blair Hell Field #300 DRCC #55

Re: [digitalradio] Standard sideband for digi modes?

2007-12-31 Thread Rick
Historically RTTY operated on LSB. Newer sound card modes are mostly using USB, so the developers of the sound card programs usually have written them so that you operate your rig on USB for everything and the program takes care of the translation. You will find that if the other ham has their

[digitalradio] Re: WSJT contest

2007-12-31 Thread we2s_jim
I have 5.9.7 r383 Jim --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Russell Blair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well now I need to go and read up on this mode agin, I didn't know where I was Txing. Is there a newer version I'm running 5.9.6.R309 Russell NC5O/qrp = IN GOD WE

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Is PACTOR I Actually DEAD For KBD - KBD?

2007-12-31 Thread Jack Chomley
At 05:28 PM 31/12/2007,Roger wrote: I was active on the TNC modes, i.e. Amtor, Pactor, RTTY for a lot of years, roughly 1989-2003 or so. Pactor was quite popular until the early 2000s, when PSK31 was introduced by Peter Martinez. This ushered in an age of narrow-frequency soundcard modes, which

Re: [digitalradio] Humans tolerate robots!

2007-12-31 Thread Jaak Hohensee
Dear Rodney You are wrong. You know laws/regulations, but ham-robots dont. Ham-robots have strong mantra - emergency. And strong mission - helping people. What you and other ham-humans have against this rhetoric? Ham-humans need better rhetoric against ham-robots. Like this: Mantra for

Re: [digitalradio] Re: WSJT contest

2007-12-31 Thread Russell Blair
Jim Tnx I will try to find that one, where do you get that one. Tnx Russell NC5O --- we2s_jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have 5.9.7 r383 Jim --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Russell Blair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well now I need to go and read up on this mode agin, I didn't

[digitalradio] Re: Is PACTOR I Actually DEAD For KBD - KBD?

2007-12-31 Thread Demetre SV1UY
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Jack Chomley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still use a TNC for PSK31, IF I want to run a minimalist station, without a laptop ;-) The SCS PTC-IIex has PSK31 built in that allows me to use a hand held battery powered dumb terminal on it, or my Psion 3MX

[digitalradio] Re: Standard sideband for digi modes?

2007-12-31 Thread Demetre SV1UY
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Zack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the replies. I thought that there wa something different about RTTY. Zack Hi Zak, For RTTY whoever uses the American Tones (Mark 2125Hz - Space 2295Hz) always uses LSB, whereus if you used the European Tones

RE: [digitalradio] Announcing The 4th Annual (2007) Digitalradio Awards :

2007-12-31 Thread Barry Garratt
Good list Andy. Best wishes for a Happy New Year! 73, Barry VE3CDX/W7 _ From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew O'Brien Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 6:52 PM To: DIGITALRADIO Subject: [digitalradio] Announcing The 4th Annual (2007)

Re: [digitalradio] Announcing The 4th Annual (2007) Digitalradio Awards :

2007-12-31 Thread ny2u
Hello Andy Users: On behalf of TARA I've got to say I'm elated to read TARA's Melee Contest received an award, a Prestigious Award at that from K3UK The Digital Radio News Group. TARA really does work hard at trying to add something to this hobby and to have a group such as this

[digitalradio] Re: Is PACTOR I Actually DEAD For KBD - KBD?

2007-12-31 Thread Bill McLaughlin
Yes for receive. Also, MultiPSK can also receive and transmit Pactor I FEC. 73, Bill N9DSJ --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Roger J. Buffington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sholto Fisher wrote: You know I head a Pactor-1 FEC call around 14,061 a couple days ago but I don't have my

Re: [digitalradio] Humans tolerate robots!

2007-12-31 Thread Rodney
Ok, I misunderstood your first email. My bad! I AGREE with you on this one!!! Rod Jaak Hohensee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Rodney You are wrong. You know laws/regulations, but ham-robots dont. Ham-robots have strong mantra - emergency. And strong