[digitalradio] OFDM Proposal: Details

2007-10-24 Thread Rud Merriam
For your amusement and consternation here are my latest thoughts on doing an OFDM protocol. Symbol rate: 62.5 Hz(128 samples @ 8000 Hz) Guard interval: 2, 4, 8 ms adaptive to conditions Subchannels: 8 (62.5 125 187.5 250 312.5 375 437.5 500) Bandwidth: 437.5 Hz Raw BPS: 1778, 1600, 1333

[digitalradio] Re: 30m 2.8KHz wide digital signal QRM

2007-10-24 Thread rich
30m has some commercial and govt. junk on it on this side of the pond not to mention the bootlegger fishing boats. Rich k2tft In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Sholto Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone record a minute or two for me to have a listen please? Sholto KE7HPV.

[digitalradio] Feld-Hell Club Fall Fling Rules - on November 3 and 4, 2007

2007-10-24 Thread BIMAS Pascal via FREE
The Fall Fling Feld-Hell Club Fall Fling Rules: Object: To contact as many other stations as possible using the Feld-Hell digital mode. The contest is open to all licensed amateurs and SWL participants. Date:

Re: [digitalradio] OFDM Proposal: Details

2007-10-24 Thread John B. Stephensen
Differential PSK should be more reliable in the presence of frequency drift and Doppler spread. There are two ways to do this: 1) compare the phase with the previous phase of the same subcarrier or 2) compare the phase with the phase of the next higher or lower subcarrier. In the first case,

Re: [digitalradio] OFDM Proposal: Details

2007-10-24 Thread Rick
John, Are there any cases where any of the current amateur radio digital modes do not use differential keying? Based on your comments on 8PSK, is this why it is the base waveform used in the MIL-STD/FED-STD/STANAG modems? What is your view on single tone modems as used in those standards vs.

Re: [digitalradio] OFDM Proposal: Details

2007-10-24 Thread John B. Stephensen
As far as I know, most OFDM implementations use differential keying either in time or frequency. HamDRM uses multiple pilot carriers as phase references. I think that there is one pilot carrier for every 4-5 data carriers. I assume that 8PSK is used in the federal standards because of the

Re: [digitalradio] OFDM Proposal: Details

2007-10-24 Thread John B. Stephensen
Rud: What language are you developing in? I have some software that generates and receives OFDM with 8PSK subcarriers using .wav files containing I and Q samples. The source code is about 1500 lines of Delphi (Pascal). It's fairly slow as it uses a DFT and IDFT and floating point arithmentic,

Re: [digitalradio] OFDM Proposal: Details

2007-10-24 Thread John B. Stephensen
Rud, The Lyons book is a good introduction to the FFT and FIR filters but I haven't read the other book. Multirate Signal Processing (ISBN 0-13-146511-2) has information on more complex DSP systems. Digital Communications (ISBN 0-07-051726) is fairly old, but a good introductory book and there