Re: Sandboxing System 76 Laptops

2011-02-17 Thread Matt Shields
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Chris O'Connell omegah...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Guys, My question is sort of cross platform. I have an 86 year old user here at my work. He's very bright, but no matter how many times I tell him not to click weird email links or strange websites he does.

Re: Sandboxing System 76 Laptops

2011-02-17 Thread Chris O'Connell
Matt, I like that suggestion! I don't think my supervisor would think that's an adequate solution and he does use one web based application at least ;-) On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Matt Shields m...@mattshields.org wrote: On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Chris O'Connell

Re: Sandboxing System 76 Laptops

2011-02-17 Thread Rob Hasselbaum
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Chris O'Connell omegah...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Guys, My question is sort of cross platform. I have an 86 year old user here at my work. He's very bright, but no matter how many times I tell him not to click weird email links or strange websites he does.

Re: Sandboxing System 76 Laptops

2011-02-17 Thread Matt Shields
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Chris O'Connell omegah...@gmail.comwrote: Matt, I like that suggestion! I don't think my supervisor would think that's an adequate solution and he does use one web based application at least ;-) On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Matt Shields

Re: 30% Apple

2011-02-17 Thread Matthew Gillen
On 02/17/2011 09:06 AM, Chris O'Connell wrote: This cost is simply going to be handed down to the consumer. Unfortunately, Apple is a very greedy company. They already have HUGE mark ups on all of their hardware. Remember right before the IPAD was released one of the higher ups at Apple

Re: 30% Apple

2011-02-17 Thread Richard Pieri
On Feb 17, 2011, at 9:06 AM, Chris O'Connell wrote: This cost is simply going to be handed down to the consumer. Let's put this into context: Apple currently takes 30% from all App Store sales. The rest goes to the developer. This is actually a pretty good deal for developers, especially

Re: 30% Apple

2011-02-17 Thread Dan O'Donovan
I personally think 30% is way to high. Perhaps 10-15% would be more reasonable, but Apple is huge and most companies are probably just going to along with this. Content publishers have been getting a free ride on the gravy train. If they don't like it, they can get off. It's also worth

Re: Sandboxing System 76 Laptops

2011-02-17 Thread Matthew Gillen
On 02/17/2011 09:11 AM, Chris O'Connell wrote: Hi Guys, My question is sort of cross platform. I have an 86 year old user here at my work. He's very bright, but no matter how many times I tell him not to click weird email links or strange websites he does. The result is a weekly visit

Re: 30% Apple

2011-02-17 Thread Kent Borg
Matthew Gillen wrote: Apple isn't as big as Amazon Depending on how you look at it. In book sales, maybe not, but Apple's market capitalization is $331 billion. Amazon is $84 billion. Mighty Google is only $200 billion. The book publishers all seem to be private, but I suspect they are

Re: 30% Apple

2011-02-17 Thread Matthew Gillen
On 02/17/2011 10:13 AM, Dan O'Donovan wrote: It's also worth noting that Apple seldom make choices that result in a loss of experience for ... their customers Really? Does iTunes/iPod support open formats like Ogg or Flac? No. Sure, you can replace the firmware on your ipod with rockbox or

Re: Diagnosing connection issue

2011-02-17 Thread edwardp
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Re: Diagnosing connection issue

2011-02-17 Thread Ben Eisenbraun
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 11:56:35AM -0500, edwa...@linuxmail.org wrote: ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss What's that old joke about the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and

Re: 30% Apple

2011-02-17 Thread Mark J Dulcey
On 2/17/2011 10:03 AM, Jarod Wilson wrote: And yet, nobody else seems to have a truly competitive tablet for less than the iPad... Of course they don't. Apple can price the iPad at an unprofitable level, just as the manufacturers of game consoles do, because they have the 30% app and

Re: 30% Apple

2011-02-17 Thread Chris O'Connell
I remember hearing about this same sort of ratio regarding the ipod. There are some RD and advertising expenses of course, but this still proves that the prices could come way down if Apple saw fit (as they did with their notebook line a couple of years ago). --chris On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at

Re: 30% Apple

2011-02-17 Thread Jarod Wilson
On Feb 17, 2011, at 10:56 AM, Matthew Gillen wrote: On 02/17/2011 10:13 AM, Dan O'Donovan wrote: It's also worth noting that Apple seldom make choices that result in a loss of experience for ... their customers Really? Does iTunes/iPod support open formats like Ogg or Flac? No. Do most

Re: 30% Apple

2011-02-17 Thread Tom Metro
Kent Borg wrote: Matthew Gillen wrote: Apple isn't as big as Amazon Depending on how you look at it. In book sales, maybe not, but Apple's market capitalization is $331 billion. Amazon is $84 billion. Mighty Google is only $200 billion. Right. Apple now has the highest market

Re: 30% Apple

2011-02-17 Thread Tom Metro
Matthew Gillen wrote: Dan O'Donovan wrote: It's also nice to read that Apple are refusing to pass subscriber's personal info on to publishers - those are valuable freebees for the publisher that aren't often used to the advantage of the subscriber. It's because they are realizing how

Android tablets

2011-02-17 Thread Tom Metro
Kent Borg wrote: -kb, the Kent who is waiting for a good Android tablet (that is as beautiful as the Ipad) to become available, so he can promote an alternative. We've had some discussion on the list about the sub-$200 Android tablets. How about the higher-end models? Anyone own or test

Re: 30% Apple

2011-02-17 Thread Matthew Gillen
On 02/17/2011 12:51 PM, Jarod Wilson wrote: On Feb 17, 2011, at 10:56 AM, Matthew Gillen wrote: On 02/17/2011 10:13 AM, Dan O'Donovan wrote: It's also worth noting that Apple seldom make choices that result in a loss of experience for ... their customers Really? Does iTunes/iPod support

RE: 30% Apple

2011-02-17 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: discuss-boun...@blu.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@blu.org] On Behalf Of Richard Pieri Apple's 35% take from music and movies sold from the iTMS. So, really, Apple is doing nothing substantially different with the subscription model than it's been doing for the past 8 years. There is

Re: RE: 30% Apple

2011-02-17 Thread Dan O'Donovan
On Thursday, 17 February 2011 at 22:59, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: When you buy an iphone, you make a substantial investment, and you're required to sign a 2-year contract. Only required in the US - my European iPhone is unlocked and contract free. The contracts benefit the network operators,

Re: 30% Apple

2011-02-17 Thread David Kramer
On 02/17/2011 02:02 PM, Richard Pieri wrote: Apple is doing nothing substantially different with the subscription model than it's been doing for the past 8 years. That's what I find so entertaining about these conversations. I would sooner expect my bank to give me a few extra days to make a

RE: 30% Apple

2011-02-17 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: discuss-boun...@blu.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@blu.org] On Behalf Of David Kramer Android is simply not an option for me until they get their head (and my data) out of the clouds and back on my own computer. Explain that? I am an android user, and I have no experience that I can

Re: 30% Apple

2011-02-17 Thread David Kramer
On 02/17/2011 11:36 PM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: From: discuss-boun...@blu.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@blu.org] On Behalf Of David Kramer Android is simply not an option for me until they get their head (and my data) out of the clouds and back on my own computer. Explain that? I am an

Re: 30% Apple

2011-02-17 Thread Richard Pieri
On Feb 17, 2011, at 10:59 PM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: There is something fundamentally different. When you buy an iphone, you make a substantial investment, and you're required to sign a 2-year contract. So when Apple suddenly starts a new policy of charging where they previously