Re: [Discuss] g...@blu.org

2011-10-02 Thread Richard Pieri
On Oct 1, 2011, at 11:05 PM, Hsuan-Yeh Chang wrote: are NOT good businessmen. So, it is really unfair to independent inventors, if the law protects only those who BOTH invent and commercialize. Inventors I quote from the Constitution of the United States: To promote the Progress of Science

Re: [Discuss] kernel.org

2011-10-02 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org [mailto:discuss- bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org] On Behalf Of jbk On 10/01/2011 09:14 AM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: Anybody have any more information, speculation, rumors, or just random comments to say? Here is what I googled:

Re: [Discuss] g...@blu.org

2011-10-02 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 10/01/2011 11:05 PM, Hsuan-Yeh Chang wrote: In some sense, the existence of patent troll is premised on the fact that different people have different talents. Some people are good at inventing, while some people are good at doing business. Many times, good inventors are NOT good

Re: [Discuss] The America Invents Act

2011-10-02 Thread Richard Pieri
On Oct 2, 2011, at 11:53 AM, Greg Rundlett (freephile) wrote: (I've only just now read the last several posts, after already composing a message, because the topic had changed and thus the thread changed in my mail reader. I'm not piling on, but am glad to hear the strong support for

Re: [Discuss] Discuss Digest, Vol 5, Issue 2

2011-10-02 Thread Hsuan-Yeh Chang
The open source community cannot benefit from this. Nobody can, except for patent trolls. Your fellows continue to do everything they possibly can to ensure that only patent trolls benefit from patent law. Even mega-corporations like Google and Samsung with massive fiscal resources and huge

Re: [Discuss] Discuss Digest, Vol 5, Issue 2

2011-10-02 Thread Richard Pieri
HYC, You've made some pretty analogies. Let me expand upon your latest. Electricity in the home is a tool. Like any tool, and like patents, it can be used correctly or it can be abused. Do you know what we do to people who abuse tools to harm people? We incarcerate the offenders.

Re: [Discuss] ZFS

2011-10-02 Thread Tom Metro
Rich Braun wrote: ZFS kernel module for Linux is not an Oracle/Sun-sponsored product, so far as I can tell. Lawrence Livermore Labs appears to be the current sponsor (see zfsonlinux.org) of the Linux upstream. A firm in India called KQ Infotech pioneered this port but then got bought out by

Re: [Discuss] more on software patent

2011-10-02 Thread Tom Metro
Glad to see the spirited discussion on software patents. If you want to listen to a decent investigative report on how the patent system in general (not specific to software patents) is broken, and learn more about how troll companies operate, check out: When Patents Attack!

Re: [Discuss] more on software patent

2011-10-02 Thread Greg Rundlett (freephile)
I call BS on the whole idea of prior art. It's everywhere and patents are issued that defy the rules. There is no art in the system. Ask a real patent attorney what he thinks. See the poster child http://www.1201tuesday.com/1201_tuesday/2010/10/poster-child.html If this is a valid patent;