Re: [Discuss] Backing up LVM partitions using snapshots

2011-12-14 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 12/13/2011 11:11 PM, ma...@mohawksoft.com wrote: On 12/12/2011 10:39 PM, ma...@mohawksoft.com wrote: Why would that happen? That's what I don't understand. If you have a mission critical failure of this sort, then you fall back to a previous backup as your beginning and do a full backup at

Re: [Discuss] Backing up LVM partitions using snapshots

2011-12-14 Thread markw
The bottom line is that there is no backup medium that is safe.. All media degrade over time. A local RAID is good, but one lightning strike of other glitch can render the drives dead. A cloud is probably the best solution since it is actively managed, but you have to trust the cloud

Re: [Discuss] Backing up LVM partitions using snapshots

2011-12-14 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 12/14/2011 08:14 AM, ma...@mohawksoft.com wrote: The bottom line is that there is no backup medium that is safe.. All media degrade over time. A local RAID is good, but one lightning strike of other glitch can render the drives dead. A cloud is probably the best solution since it is

[Discuss] [OT] Asset Management

2011-12-14 Thread Kyle Leslie
As I know many of you manage a lot of the equipment and things that go through your office I was wondering if anyone could assist. Currently at my company we do an awful job of managing everything from software to machines we hand out to users. I suggested to one of my managers that we should

Re: [Discuss] [OT] Asset Management

2011-12-14 Thread Bill Horne
On 12/14/2011 9:04 AM, Kyle Leslie wrote: As I know many of you manage a lot of the equipment and things that go through your office I was wondering if anyone could assist. Currently at my company we do an awful job of managing everything from software to machines we hand out to users. I

Re: [Discuss] Backing up LVM partitions using snapshots

2011-12-14 Thread Richard Pieri
On Dec 13, 2011, at 11:11 PM, ma...@mohawksoft.com wrote: Using a block level store, an incremental backup is no different than a full backup. You're not following me. You have a full dump. You have a first differential against that dump. You have a second differential made against the

[Discuss] [OT] Google+

2011-12-14 Thread Jerry Feldman
I keep getting a Google+ message on my phone name mentioned you in a post I can find no way either on my phone or online via the web interface. The issue is that it is the same post from 2 days ago. On the Android I have a Mute or abuse, and it is not abuse, and I'll slug the guy next Wednesday.

Re: [Discuss] Backing up LVM partitions using snapshots

2011-12-14 Thread Bill Bogstad
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Richard Pieri richard.pi...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 13, 2011, at 11:11 PM, ma...@mohawksoft.com wrote: Using a block level store, an incremental backup is no different than a full backup. You're not following me.  You have a full dump.  You have a first

Re: [Discuss] Backing up LVM partitions using snapshots

2011-12-14 Thread Derek Atkins
On Wed, December 14, 2011 2:00 pm, Richard Pieri wrote: On 12/14/2011 12:34 PM, Bill Bogstad wrote: I've been watching the (second?) incarnation of this thread for a while now and I think that I see your point. I wonder if the TRIM functionality that is being added to filesystems in order to

Re: [Discuss] Backing up LVM partitions using snapshots

2011-12-14 Thread Matt Shields
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Richard Pieri richard.pi...@gmail.comwrote: On 12/14/2011 12:34 PM, Bill Bogstad wrote: I've been watching the (second?) incarnation of this thread for a while now and I think that I see your point. I wonder if the TRIM functionality that is being added to

Re: [Discuss] [OT] Google+

2011-12-14 Thread John Abreau
In Google+, click on the gear icon in the upper right corner and select Google+ Settings. There's a big section for setting what kinds of notifications you want to receive. You should be able to shut off the ones that are bothering you. On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Jerry Feldman

Re: [Discuss] Backing up LVM partitions using snapshots

2011-12-14 Thread Richard Pieri
On 12/14/2011 2:21 PM, Matt Shields wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought differentials are a backup of all things that have changed since the last full. Incrementals are changes since the last incremental, differential or full, whichever happened last. This is correct. Keep in mind

Re: [Discuss] Off-Topic [IP] BufferBloat: What's Wrong with the Internet?

2011-12-14 Thread Tom Metro
Rich Braun wrote: Bill Horne: At some point, the Internet will need a major overhaul. Will it? I think we have a very long history of incremental tweaks ahead of us... For what common carriers are trying to do...TCP/IP can't be made to fit. I'd buy that TCP may not be part of the future

Re: [Discuss] [OT] Google+

2011-12-14 Thread Jerry Feldman
I have no problem turning off notifications, or notifications when I am mentioned. But I don't see how I can turn off once I receive the notification. What I am getting is a notification of the same event over and over again. On 12/14/2011 02:35 PM, John Abreau wrote: In Google+, click on the

Re: [Discuss] Backing up LVM partitions using snapshots

2011-12-14 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org [mailto:discuss- bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org] On Behalf Of Bill Bogstad On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Richard Pieri richard.pi...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 13, 2011, at 11:11 PM, ma...@mohawksoft.com wrote: Using a block level

Re: [Discuss] [OT] Google+

2011-12-14 Thread John Abreau
Apparently this is a phone setting, not a googleplus setting. Here are the instructions for an iPhone; maybe it will help you find the equivalent instructions for Android. https://plus.google.com/109932063492318931033/posts/J8um5cjSxPA On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Jerry Feldman

[Discuss] forward of a gadget idea

2011-12-14 Thread dan
Don't know the guy/gal who posted this to another list I'm on, just thought perhaps someone here might appreciate it. Sorry for bandwidth consumption. --- Forwarded Message Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 00:47:02 -0800 From: A.Lizard aliz...@ecis.com Subject: a trivial device, but I think, a

Re: [Discuss] Backing up LVM partitions using snapshots

2011-12-14 Thread Richard Pieri
On Dec 14, 2011, at 4:56 PM, Bill Bogstad wrote: Let me try again. 1. Do away with differentials against differentials. 2. Optimize differential against full by keeping track of TRIMs so that writes that are later TRIMed are dropped from the list of differences from full. Since any