Re: [Discuss] Full disk encryption

2012-01-03 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 01/02/2012 08:10 PM, Chris O'Connell wrote: The password used to decrypt the disk and log in to Windows is the same. Thus the process is more transparent for users. Instead of having to enter two (sometimes unrelated) passwords with Truecrypt, BitLocker users only enter one password. Same

Re: [Discuss] Full disk encryption

2012-01-03 Thread Daniel Feenberg
On Mon, 2 Jan 2012, Tom Metro wrote: The EFF recently tweeted (http://twitter.com/#!/EFF/status/153306301965938688): @EFF Call to action for 2012: full disk encryption on every machine you own! Who's with us? eff.org/r.3Ng Which links to this article:

Re: [Discuss] Full disk encryption

2012-01-03 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org [mailto:discuss- bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org] On Behalf Of Jim Gasek there is a performance hit. There may be a performance hit in some situations, but not on modern or decent computers with decent encryption. I have two points to

Re: [Discuss] Full disk encryption

2012-01-03 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org [mailto:discuss- bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org] On Behalf Of Chris O'Connell ALSO, NO FULL DISK ENCRYPTION should ever be used on an SSD drive. Performance will drop by 30% and the drive's wear-leveling system and TRIM won't function

Re: [Discuss] Full disk encryption

2012-01-03 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org [mailto:discuss- bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org] On Behalf Of Tom Metro What makes Microsoft BitLocker better than TrueCrypt? Each is better in its own way. Bitlocker is better if you're an IT person who wants to protect your internal users

Re: [Discuss] Full disk encryption

2012-01-03 Thread Chris O'Connell
A couple of more supporting links regarding TRIM and wear-leveling (from Truecrypt): http://www.truecrypt.org/docs/?s=trim-operation http://www.truecrypt.org/docs/?s=wear-leveling On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Chris O'Connell omegah...@gmail.comwrote: That has not been my experience at all.

[Discuss] libreoffice

2012-01-03 Thread dan moylan
i must have missed something in my latest installation of ubuntu 11.10; libreoffice no longer seems to open doc files. any suggestions welcome. tia, ole dan j. daniel moylan 84 harvard ave brookline, ma 02446-6202 617-232-2360 (tel) j...@moylan.us www.moylan.us [death to html bloat!]

Re: [Discuss] Full disk encryption

2012-01-03 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: Chris O'Connell [mailto:omegah...@gmail.com] (snipped and moved top post to bottom) On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Edward Ned Harvey b...@nedharvey.com wrote: ALSO, NO FULL DISK ENCRYPTION should ever be used on an SSD drive. Performance will drop by 30% and the drive's

Re: [Discuss] Full disk encryption

2012-01-03 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: Chris O'Connell [mailto:omegah...@gmail.com] http://www.truecrypt.org/docs/?s=trim-operation Given: Truecrypt permits TRIM. And if you TRIM, an attacker may be able to identify some information, such as degrading your plausible deniability in some cases, or something like that.

Re: [Discuss] Full disk encryption

2012-01-03 Thread Chris O'Connell
Perhaps the use of the word NEVER is too strong or misleading. From personal experience I can say that given the performance decrease using TrueCrypt on an SSD drive I would never encrypt an SSD drive using TrueCrypt. I haven't tried BitLocker on an SSD drive yet. You have really proven your

Re: [Discuss] Full disk encryption

2012-01-03 Thread Tom Metro
Bill Horne wrote: Oa k'wala wrote: Any thoughts on the kind of security risk I might be vulnerable to because I only encrypt my home dir as opposed to the full disk? Many applications use /tmp or /var files as working storage, and they leave ghosts behind. As does swap. -Tom -- Tom

Re: [Discuss] BitLocker

2012-01-03 Thread Tom Metro
Richard Pieri wrote: On Jan 2, 2012, at 7:55 PM, Tom Metro wrote: What makes Microsoft BitLocker better than TrueCrypt? ... because it protects against more attack modes than other software. Granted, I was being lazy by asking the question rather than looking it up, but repeating the quote I

Re: [Discuss] Full disk encryption, why bother?

2012-01-03 Thread Tom Metro
Richard Pieri wrote: Tom Metro wrote: Are you using full disk encryption? I don't. I take care of my gear. I made this statement before: I see WDE as enabler for carelessness. The EFF article I quoted references a prior EFF article on border crossing inspections. The encouragement to

Re: [Discuss] Full disk encryption

2012-01-03 Thread Tom Metro
Daniel Feenberg wrote: The built-in Fedora encryption is no trouble to establish... What tool do they use? Any other distributions that provide an integrated solution? -Tom -- Tom Metro Venture Logic, Newton, MA, USA Enterprise solutions through open source. Professional Profile:

Re: [Discuss] Full disk encryption and backups

2012-01-03 Thread Tom Metro
Richard Pieri wrote: And this is the great big rub with WDE: backups. File-level backups are decrypted when sent to the backup system unless the backup system itself re-encrypts everything. I'm not sure I see the big problem with backups, unless you simply find file-level backups undesirable

[Discuss] Hardware Hacking list

2012-01-03 Thread Tom Metro
Stephen Adler wrote: I didn't know there was a hardware hacking list, I'll sign up! Yup. More info here: http://blu.wikispaces.com/Hardware+Hacking And for anyone else who has gotten some new toys for Christmas - like a new iPhone and you want to hack Siri, a new Android phone you want to root,

Re: [Discuss] Full disk encryption and backups

2012-01-03 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
Richard Pieri wrote: And this is the great big rub with WDE: backups. File-level backups are decrypted when sent to the backup system unless the backup system itself re-encrypts everything. Generalizations galore! ;-) I suppose that depends on your choice of backup software, now doesn't

[Discuss] The opinions of Truecrypt

2012-01-03 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
Don't get me wrong, I love truecrypt. But their documentation is ... well ... sort of crazy. This is the toned down version of saying they're totalitarian extremist and elitist, to the point of being coercive and misleading to innocent civilians in order to drive some sort of self-serving

Re: [Discuss] Full disk encryption

2012-01-03 Thread Daniel Feenberg
On Tue, 3 Jan 2012, Tom Metro wrote: Daniel Feenberg wrote: The built-in Fedora encryption is no trouble to establish... What tool do they use? Any other distributions that provide an From http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Implementing_LUKS_Disk_Encryption#Introduction_to_LUKS

Re: [Discuss] Full disk encryption

2012-01-03 Thread Richard Pieri
On Jan 3, 2012, at 9:09 AM, Kyle Leslie wrote: One of the huge benefits I think is that the encryption keys/recovery keys can be stored in AD. So that if you need to unlock or change the drives around you don't need to have the user store that some place to get lost/stolen. It stores in AD

Re: [Discuss] Full disk encryption, why bother?

2012-01-03 Thread Bill Bogstad
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Tom Metro tmetro-...@vl.com wrote: ... Daniel Feenberg wrote: I don't see much point in encrypting data on a network server - if the disk is mounted then the plain-text is available to an intruder and the addition of an encrypted version doesn't enhance