Re: Ubuntu 11.04 and Unity

2011-05-11 Thread Jarod Wilson
On May 10, 2011, at 8:57 PM, Tom Metro wrote: Jarod Wilson wrote: Another pro to consider: menus aren't duplicated needlessly across multiple instances of the same program. Visual duplication or resource duplication? Visual duplication, which is also a resource duplication (where said

Re: Ubuntu 11.04 and Unity

2011-05-11 Thread Richard Pieri
On May 11, 2011, at 12:01 PM, Jarod Wilson wrote: Meh. Top of the screen isn't all that inconvenient to me. Its always in the exact same place, so finding it with a simple muscle memory trained flick of the mouse/touchpad/whatever is rather quick. This, in spades. Consistency is a hallmark

Re: Ubuntu 11.04 and Unity

2011-05-11 Thread Ben Eisenbraun
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 12:01:01PM -0400, Jarod Wilson wrote: On May 10, 2011, at 8:57 PM, Tom Metro wrote: But the whole point of menus are to provide a documentation crutch for infrequent operations or infrequent users. For the latter case, if you make the menus less convenient to use,

Re: Ubuntu 11.04 and Unity

2011-05-10 Thread Jarod Wilson
On May 10, 2011, at 1:45 AM, Tom Metro wrote: ... I've also never liked the Mac-style menus on the top of the screen rather than in the window title bar. It strikes me as a UI decision that doesn't scale well. It was fine when the Mac meant the beige toaster with its 9 display, but when

Re: Ubuntu 11.04 and Unity

2011-05-10 Thread Matthew Gillen
On 05/10/2011 11:17 AM, Jarod Wilson wrote: Another pro to consider: menus aren't duplicated needlessly across multiple instances of the same program. Part of this has to do with how processes are launch in, say, gnome, vs. in Mac OS X. Two gnome terminal windows == two different applications,

Re: Ubuntu 11.04 and Unity

2011-05-10 Thread Tom Metro
Jarod Wilson wrote: Another pro to consider: menus aren't duplicated needlessly across multiple instances of the same program. Visual duplication or resource duplication? Part of this has to do with how processes are launch... Two gnome terminal windows == two different applications, each

Ubuntu 11.04 and Unity

2011-05-09 Thread Tom Metro
A Linux Journal (free) article on Ubuntu 11.04 and Unity: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/ubuntu-1104-unity-released-mixed-reactions It quotes mixed reviews of Unity from around the net, such as: Rob Williams said, Unity impressed me a lot more than I expected it to. After some use

Re: Ubuntu 11.04 and Unity

2011-05-09 Thread Shirley Márquez Dúlcey
On 5/9/2011 9:36 PM, Tom Metro wrote: Unity has approximately the same UI as GNOME 3, so I'm not sure why they diverged from that project. The comments on the above article say they'll be using GNOME 3 in 11.10. I think I could live with the side-bar dock. Most of us use wide screen

Re: Ubuntu 11.04 and Unity

2011-05-09 Thread Tom Metro
Mark? Dúlcey wrote: One thing I've always found annoying about Gnome 2 is that you can't effectively move the taskbar to the side of the screen as you can in Windows -- yes you can put it there but it misbehaves in various annoying ways. Try replacing the stock window list applet with a