Re: keyboard trends

2011-01-20 Thread Tom Metro
Jerry Feldman wrote: IMHO, clicks should be configurable. Some people really need to hear the clicks. There is of course software to do that. GRC's ClicKey (http://www.grc.com/freepopular.htm) supposedly does this for Windows. However I would imagine this is more about the feel than the sound,

Re: keyboard trends

2011-01-20 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 01/20/2011 01:26 PM, Tom Metro wrote: Jerry Feldman wrote: IMHO, clicks should be configurable. Some people really need to hear the clicks. There is of course software to do that. GRC's ClicKey (http://www.grc.com/freepopular.htm) supposedly does this for Windows. However I would imagine

Re: keyboard trends

2011-01-19 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 01/18/2011 04:17 PM, Bill Horne wrote: While looking at laptops and stand-alone keyboards recently, I see there are several trends happening. I'd be curious to know what people think of these features. Number pads seem to be showing up on more laptops, even those with 15 screens. I

Re: keyboard trends

2011-01-19 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 01/18/2011 07:32 PM, Mark J Dulcey wrote: Like other recent HPs it has the reversed roles for the F keys. If I used software that used the F keys heavily (like Ami Pro back in the day, or WordPerfect in the even farther back day) I'd switch it back; the BIOS setting is available. The Fn

Re: keyboard trends

2011-01-19 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 01/18/2011 07:56 PM, Mark J Dulcey wrote: Loud clicky keys might be fine for a desktop keyboard, but they're a terrible idea for a laptop that is likely to be used in a crowded room. Way back when I worked for Unitech we got in a laptop for evaluation and it had a click keyboard -- I

Re: keyboard trends

2011-01-19 Thread Rich Braun
I got a laugh out of this thread. At workplaces, I've had to suffer through one style after another of keyboards as they mutate over the years. At home, I proudly pound on a True Blue IBM keyboard from days gone by (when we used to call PCs IBM-Compatible). Someday, I guess, they'll quit making

Re: keyboard trends

2011-01-19 Thread Richard Pieri
Bah. I still haven't entirely forgiven IBM for moving the shift-lock. --Rich P. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss

Re: keyboard trends

2011-01-19 Thread Ben Eisenbraun
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 08:06:56AM -0500, Rich Braun wrote: Looking at the bottom of this heavyweight beast, it says the following: IBM Model No. KB-8923 Power Rating 5V 200mA S/N: 0132228 Date: 1996-07 I bought my first Model M at the MIT Flea in '99 or so. It has a date code from 1986

Re: keyboard trends

2011-01-19 Thread Dan Ritter
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:56:03AM -0500, Ben Eisenbraun wrote: On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 08:06:56AM -0500, Rich Braun wrote: Looking at the bottom of this heavyweight beast, it says the following: IBM Model No. KB-8923 Power Rating 5V 200mA S/N: 0132228 Date: 1996-07 I bought my

Re: keyboard trends

2011-01-19 Thread Ben Eisenbraun
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 12:07:54PM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:56:03AM -0500, Ben Eisenbraun wrote: I bought my first Model M at the MIT Flea in '99 or so. It has a date code from 1986 on the bottom of it. I used it until this summer when I ended up with a PC

Re: keyboard trends

2011-01-19 Thread edwardp
The most durable keyboard I bought at a computer show (Do they still have those???) was a SolidTek ACK-260A.? It came in both PS/2 and AT versions.? It still works great today as if it were brand new and am using the AT version right now on an old box.? :-)

Re: keyboard trends

2011-01-18 Thread Ethan Schwartz
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Tom Metro tmetro-...@vl.com wrote: Do you use your number pad? Yes, but I get along with out it... so on a laptop I may appreciate full size keys more than narrower keys + number pad. I also prefer the keyboard be centered with the screen, which usually isn't

Re: keyboard trends

2011-01-18 Thread Bill Horne
On Tue, 2011-01-18 at 15:35 -0500, Tom Metro wrote: While looking at laptops and stand-alone keyboards recently, I see there are several trends happening. I'd be curious to know what people think of these features. Number pads seem to be showing up on more laptops, even those with 15

Re: keyboard trends

2011-01-18 Thread MBR
On 1/18/2011 3:35 PM, Tom Metro wrote F-keys on laptops have had a second function to control the hardware, such as changing the display brightness, when used with an Fn modifier key. Newer HP laptops reverse the logic of the Fn modifier key, such that you have to press the modifier to get the

Re: keyboard trends

2011-01-18 Thread Tom Metro
Ethan Schwartz wrote: Tom Metro wrote: Newer HP laptops reverse the logic of the Fn modifier key, such that you have to press the modifier to get the traditional F1-F12 function. Those same HP's also have an option in their BIOS that lets you decide whether to the Fn modifier default to on

Re: keyboard trends

2011-01-18 Thread Jarod Wilson
On Jan 18, 2011, at 10:08 PM, Tom Metro wrote: ... Bill Horne wrote: Cntl-X|C|V is universal AFAIK... I believe the Shift-Delete/Ctrl-Insert/Shift-Insert shortcuts for cut/copy/paste were introduced to Windows back in the 2.0/3.0 era, and considered part of IBM Common User Access (CUA)[1]