Re: [tdf-discuss] Better defaults

2010-10-28 Thread Valter Mura
In data mercoledì 27 ottobre 2010 21:41:20, Marc Paré ha scritto: I don't think I would favour this. There is too much potential for gathering data from users and we could really run in trouble if criticism were to spread that we are data mining our LibO users. Is there anything like that

Re: [tdf-discuss] Better defaults

2010-10-28 Thread Sveinn í Felli
Þann fim 28.okt 2010 07:09, skrifaði Valter Mura: In data mercoledì 27 ottobre 2010 21:41:20, Marc Paré ha scritto: I don't think I would favour this. There is too much potential for gathering data from users and we could really run in trouble if criticism were to spread that we are data

Re: [tdf-discuss] Better defaults

2010-10-28 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-27 22:55, Damien Ellis a écrit : On 10/24/10, RGB ESrgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: Another example: do you know anyone that use the send by email button? Most possible receivers nowadays still use msoffice so using that button have the only effect that new users come to forums asking why

Re: [tdf-discuss] UI proposal

2010-10-28 Thread Mirek M.
Hi Michel, 2010/10/28 Michel Gagnon mic...@mgagnon.net Le 2010-10-27 12:11, Mirek M. a écrit : Hey everyone, New post about managing tabs without rulers: http://clickortap.wordpress.com/2010/10/27/citrus-tabs/ Maybe I am too traditionalist, but I really don't like the idea. Typically,

Re: [tdf-discuss] Better defaults

2010-10-28 Thread Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai
Hi, AFAIR the translation work if the name of color matches with the translation. So already translated names should works. Regarding to color palette, for same reason we should save the old palette after the new palette. KAMI 2010-10-28 07:20 keltezéssel, Andras Timar írta: 2010.10.28. 5:47

Re: [tdf-discuss] UI proposal

2010-10-28 Thread Mirek M.
Hi Marc, 2010/10/28 Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com Le 2010-10-27 20:23, Michel Gagnon a écrit : Le 2010-10-27 12:11, Mirek M. a écrit : Hey everyone, New post about managing tabs without rulers: http://clickortap.wordpress.com/2010/10/27/citrus-tabs/ Maybe I am too traditionalist, but I

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: PPC Mac, Solaris and windows x86_64 Releases

2010-10-28 Thread Dr. Peter Pöml
Am 27.10.2010 um 14:04 schrieb Christian Lohmaier: On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 8:13 AM, jonathon jonathon.bl...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/26/2010 07:17 PM, Carlo Strata wrote: - MacOSX 64 bit on both PPC and X86-64 platforms (I don't know if it exists a MacOSX PPC 64 bit OS...); Mac OS X is

[tdf-discuss] Idea: Help publication utils in Writer and export and import

2010-10-28 Thread Kálmán „KAMI” Szalai
Hi! It is not easy to maintain the help such big application like LibreOffice. We might create tools in Writer that helps such publication work. Also we may create export/import filter to produce and process help content. KAMI -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to

Re: [tdf-discuss] Idea: Help publication utils in Writer and export and import

2010-10-28 Thread Mirek M.
How about setting up an online Help wiki, the important topics from which would be turned into the Help that comes bundled with LibO? The wiki would of course need to be moderated, addable to only with an account, and some important pages would be locked and editable only by trusted users.

Re: [tdf-discuss] Idea: Help publication utils in Writer and export and import

2010-10-28 Thread Leif Lodahl
Perhaps we should just consider to change the help system from the proprietary html-wanne-be system to a pure HTML based system. I think such systems already exists in license compatible versions. But I'm not sure. Then each individual user can choose to download an off-line help or use the

Re: [tdf-discuss] Idea: Help publication utils in Writer and export and import

2010-10-28 Thread Mirek M.
2010/10/28 Leif Lodahl leiflod...@gmail.com Perhaps we should just consider to change the help system from the proprietary html-wanne-be system to a pure HTML based system. I think such systems already exists in license compatible versions. But I'm not sure. Then each individual user can

Re: [tdf-discuss] Copyright Assignments the Document Foundation

2010-10-28 Thread Gianluca Turconi
Charles-H. Schulz wrote: 4) the notion that we cannot change license because we don't have copyright assignment needs to be put to rest once and for all today. There is a very simple explanation with respect to this issue; ask any lawyer and he/she will confirm this: Sun/Oracle has licensed the

[tdf-discuss] [UI] Splash screen

2010-10-28 Thread Mirek M.
Hi everyone, Here's my proposal on how to replace the splash screen: http://clickortap.wordpress.com/2010/10/28/splash/. The Start Center would lose the standard chrome of LibO and stand as a very lightweight application that opens while LibO loads, removing the need for a splash screen. For

Re: [tdf-discuss] [UI] Splash screen

2010-10-28 Thread Mirek M.
2010/10/28 Johannes Bausch johannes.bau...@gmail.com I adore the Citrus UI stuff. Absolutely amazing. It reminds me a bit of a dtp rather than an office suite, which is good. And it also reminds me of Adobe Lightroom (also very good). The idea of a standalone app is good, but it could also

Re: [tdf-discuss] UI proposal

2010-10-28 Thread Mirek M.
Hi Johannes, 2010/10/28 Johannes Bausch johannes.bau...@gmail.com I really like the idea. Many new people (children) who start working with an office suite don't know what tabs are (well, at least that's what I encountered). Seeing them as dynamic whitespace like this would be a great help.

Re: [tdf-discuss] UI proposal

2010-10-28 Thread Michel Gagnon
Le 2010-10-28 05:29, Mirek M. a écrit : Hi Michel, 2010/10/28 Michel Gagnonmic...@mgagnon.net Le 2010-10-27 12:11, Mirek M. a écrit : Hey everyone, New post about managing tabs without rulers: http://clickortap.wordpress.com/2010/10/27/citrus-tabs/ Maybe I am too traditionalist, but I

Re: [tdf-discuss] [UI] Splash screen

2010-10-28 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-28 13:42, Ercole Carpanetto a écrit : On 28 October 2010 18:42, Mirek M.maz...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, Here's my proposal on how to replace the splash screen: http://clickortap.wordpress.com/2010/10/28/splash/. The Start Center would lose the standard chrome of LibO and stand

Re: [tdf-discuss] UI proposal

2010-10-28 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-28 12:38, Johannes Bausch a écrit : I really like the idea. Many new people (children) who start working with an office suite don't know what tabs are (well, at least that's what I encountered). Seeing them as dynamic whitespace like this would be a great help. Maybe this could be

Re: [tdf-discuss] Copyright Assignments the Document Foundation

2010-10-28 Thread BRM
- Original Message From: Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org Le Thu, 28 Oct 2010 07:12:59 -0700 (PDT), BRM bm_witn...@yahoo.com a écrit : From: Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org 4) the notion that we cannot change license because we

Re: [tdf-discuss] Copyright Assignments the Document Foundation

2010-10-28 Thread Thorsten Behrens
BRM wrote: The Linux Kernel guys don't require it; KDE E.v. does. Both methods have their pros and cons. Hi, just a very small correction here - KDE e.V. does not require it, it is optional to sign their FLA (a trait shared among other FLOSS projects, e.g. the Python Foundation acts

Re: [tdf-discuss] UI proposal

2010-10-28 Thread RGB ES
The only reason to see tab stops and other formatting codes is if you need to *interact* with them: if you have a good set of paragraph styles the ability to see tab stops and other formatting codes is useless. So, all the concepts presented in this thread seems to be geared towards direct

Re: [tdf-discuss] Better defaults

2010-10-28 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi Sveinn! Am Donnerstag, den 28.10.2010, 07:52 + schrieb Sveinn í Felli: Anyway, I think also that a request of registration during installation [...] +1 Maybe such a popup, asking whether one would like to register and/or send usage data, should be activated a bit later than

Re: [tdf-discuss] UI proposal

2010-10-28 Thread Andy Brown
On Thu Oct 28 2010 14:45:36 GMT-0700 (PDT) RGB ES wrote: The only reason to see tab stops and other formatting codes is if you need to *interact* with them: if you have a good set of paragraph styles the ability to see tab stops and other formatting codes is useless. So, all the concepts

Re: [tdf-discuss] Copyright Assignments the Document Foundation

2010-10-28 Thread BRM
- Original Message From: Thorsten Behrens t...@documentfoundation.org To: discuss@documentfoundation.org Sent: Thu, October 28, 2010 5:37:19 PM Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Copyright Assignments the Document Foundation BRM wrote: The Linux Kernel guys don't require it; KDE E.v.

Re: [tdf-discuss] Copyright Assignments the Document Foundation

2010-10-28 Thread todd rme
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Hello all, (apologies for this quite long email) I would like to discuss a bit the position of the Document Foundation with respect to copyright assignments. I understand there have been

Re: [tdf-discuss] UI proposal

2010-10-28 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-28 17:45, RGB ES a écrit : The only reason to see tab stops and other formatting codes is if you need to *interact* with them: if you have a good set of paragraph styles the ability to see tab stops and other formatting codes is useless. So, all the concepts presented in this thread

Re: [tdf-discuss] [UI] Splash screen

2010-10-28 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi Mirek! Am Donnerstag, den 28.10.2010, 18:42 +0200 schrieb Mirek M.: Hi everyone, Here's my proposal on how to replace the splash screen: http://clickortap.wordpress.com/2010/10/28/splash/. Here are some similar proposals that have been collected for the OOo StartCenter quite some time