Hello,
I'm still on vacation until the 10th, but I'd like to start the poll on
the next conference call already to help planning the next weeks. :-)
So, please cast your vote here:
http://www.doodle.com/svqmnnrw8hv6dsbp?newDesign=true
Thanks!
Florian
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could the 2011 take to you as much joy and happynes as to be more than
enough so to gift the remaining to others.
Pier :-)
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On 31 December 2010 17:04, Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl wrote:
Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote (31-12-10 13:14)
On 31/12/10 09:30, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:
FYI for those that aren't aware. Microsoft office 2010 supports ODF
format for opening and saving documents now.
So does 2007 SP2 as
Here Here Charles. I commend everyone involved. I have never seen an open
source project evolve as quickly as LO has.
2010 = great start to a great project and year.
2011 = year that LO becomes the best office suite out there.
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 5:40 PM, Charles-H. Schulz
The advantage we have of using dicollect is that sophie part of that
community already lee. We would have the backing of the lead dev as well as
their entire team of devs to help work with us in implementing dicollect.
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Lee Hyde anub...@gmail.com wrote:
On
The Go-oo homepage also says Going forward, the Go-oo project will be
discontinued in favor of LibreOffice. Does that mean that LibreOffice
is driven by Novell too?
I wouldn't put in that simple words. Actually, LibreOffice is open to
any developer, individual or company that whishes
yahoo-pier_andreit wrote (01-01-11 09:25)
could the 2011 take to you as much joy and happynes as to be more than
enough so to gift the remaining to others.
Thank you so much!
A whole lot of peace in our harts in 2011 :-)
Cor
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You mention other projects why not package other projects as options for
instance during install. User is presented with a list of options for
instance thunderbird for email etc?
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Zaphod Feeblejocks zapho...@gmail.comwrote:
The Go-oo homepage also says Going
Hi Sveinn,
Sure, but how about conservation and readability by future generations
(when there's no more Microsoft knowledge around and nobody knows
anymore how to decrypt all the nuances of.doc + .docx files) ?
Fair point.
But: most users do not care. Not exporting to Word will make it
On Sat, 01 Jan 2011 12:16:06 -
Zaphod Feeblejocks zapho...@gmail.com wrote:
The Go-oo homepage also says Going forward, the Go-oo project
will be discontinued in favor of LibreOffice. Does that mean
that LibreOffice is driven by Novell too?
Ways to resolve this include:
- Open
On 01/01/11 17:07, Zaphod Feeblejocks wrote:
Why does Thunderbird, which ships with
American English need an extension before it can use a British English
dictionary? Why
can Thunderbird not share a dictionary with LibO. What about Scribus? MSO
users are
used to a shared dictionary
On 2011-01-01 12:07 PM, Zaphod Feeblejocks wrote:
Office 2013/4 will quite possibly drop .doc export, just as Word
6/95 export was dropped from Word 2003 - after a failed attempt to
drop it from 2000. MS can do this because they are the market leader.
To fail to offer even rudimentary docx
On 2011-01-01 12:07 PM, Zaphod Feeblejocks wrote:
A few points to remember though:
We are in a long-term goal to replace MS Office as the package
of-choice. As part of the wider open-source fraternity, we are in
long-term campaign to remove Microsoft's influence and bring back
proper choice
Did you know that anything running Linux in France is not a computer? The
outworking of
this is a skewed market in favour of MS operating systems, and therefore in
favour of MS
applications. This DOES affect LibO.
From: http://tinyurl.com/33ynbv7
Microsoft apparently has quite a
On 01/01/11 17:35, Charles Marcus wrote:
What I think we are or should be striving for is to simply be the best
Office/Productivity software available, whether free or commercial.
We do and should NOT have to put Microsoft Office Down in order to raise
ourselves up. If we cannot stand on our
LibOffice on the web would be able to export in almost any format. We are
often saying ms doesn't play well with others, and one of the benefits of
open source and open standards DO play well with others , so let's commit
to playing well with others.
Wolf Halton
PS happy new year.
On Jan 1, 2011
Whats really held OOo and will hold LO back is the lack of an equivalent
program such as outlook.
There are one of three ways it can be done.
1) fork something like evolution which has all that done and integrate it
into the LO suite
2) or install software that already exists in the open source
On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 3:28 AM, Zaphod Feeblejocks zapho...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Charles,
So why is there so much duplication of effort in the campaign
against MS?
I strongly disagree with your assertion that we are or should be
engaging in any kind of 'campaign against Microsoft', or even
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 3:30 AM, Olivier Hallot
olivier.hal...@documentfoundation.org wrote:
snip
The Go-oo homepage also says Going forward, the Go-oo project will be
discontinued in favor of LibreOffice. Does that mean that LibreOffice
is driven by Novell too?
I wouldn't put in that
On 01/01/11 18:46, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:
My apologies for the mis understanding there Lee. I think the problem we
would run into is 2 different schools of thought on how the same goal should
be achieved.
Possibly, but then that is the nature of collaboration is it not? In any
case, both
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Whats really held OOo and will hold LO back is the lack of an equivalent
program such as outlook.
There are one of three ways it can be done.
1) fork something like evolution which has all that
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On 12/31/2010 10:03 AM, Kevin André wrote:
I would suggest the following instead. Support OOXML completely,
but when the user saves his/her document in a proprietary format
display a confirmation
I remember my days of working for an outfit that used Outlook and MS
products. I looked into Outlook for myself. I was not amused.
Years later I turned to Linux, and the particular distribution I chose
installed Evolution by default. I looked into it. I was not amused.
So I tried uninstalling
Just a thought
Might the following message be useful the first time a user tries to save in
docx.
--
Caution: this format is only fully supported by MS Word since 2007. Saving in
this format
may not be suitable if you wish to share data with users of older versions of
Word or users
of
That looks like a good message. A direct save this as a .doc now button
inside the dialog might be helpful for users as well.
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On 01/01/11 19:20, Craig A. Eddy wrote:
So, what am I saying? You don't NEED to add something useless like
Outlook or Evolution to LO. You just have to allow Thunderbird to
connect to it, and people can make their own choice as to whether they
want all the other bells and whistles.
But why only for Thunderbird?
Why not make an open container (or just modularize the existing one with a
well defined interface) to will allow any application to use the resources
(e.g. dictionaries) and have full integration with all LO resources?
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 20:36, Lee Hyde
On 12/31/2010 02:18 AM, Sveinn í Felli wrote:
But I think that in a corporate context, a batch program for converting
.doc and .docx to ODF would get some support and would/could ease the
conversion. After all those years, there's a pile of .docs sitting on
most PCs in this world. And
OOo has for a long time given an option of downloading the full OOo package
with or
without JRE.
Ubuntu gives the option of full package, or only key components (Writer, Calc,
etc).
To avoid bloat, what about a joint-hosted TDF/Moz/others site, giving an option
of:
From TDF:
- Writer
- Calc
VERY GOOD! No, I didn't really mean to restrict it to Thunderbird.
It's just what I'm most familiar with. Certainly, if there are other
email readers that have capabilities that can be linked into LO those
links should be explored.
Craig
Tyche
On 01/01/2011 12:42 PM, Jaime R. Garza wrote:
But
Office on-the-web only saves in docx. Office 2013/4 will quite possibly
drop .doc export,
just as Word 6/95 export was dropped from Word 2003 - after a failed
attempt to drop it
from 2000. MS can do this because they are the market leader. To fail to
offer even
rudimentary docx export
Þann lau 1.jan 2011 19:57, skrifaði NoOp:
On 12/31/2010 02:18 AM, Sveinn í Felli wrote:
But I think that in a corporate context, a batch program for converting
.doc and .docx to ODF would get some support and would/could ease the
conversion. After all those years, there's a pile of .docs
Le 2010-12-31 06:32, Christoph Noack a écrit :
Hi Marc,
some additional remarks to those by Regina (Thanks!). The reason for not
having a x-button to close some of the window is, that the source code
and the interaction concepts are very old. Just look at the selection
decoration - looks quite
My point is that if they are stand alone,they should still be able to share
seamlessly the resources, like the dictionary, spell check, even PDF export,
I'm not sure if Thunderbird uses one. But the important thing is to give the
feeling that they work integrated. Not only to the E-Mail client,
On 01/01/2011 12:58 PM, Sveinn í Felli wrote:
Þann lau 1.jan 2011 19:57, skrifaði NoOp:
On 12/31/2010 02:18 AM, Sveinn í Felli wrote:
But I think that in a corporate context, a batch program for converting
.doc and .docx to ODF would get some support and would/could ease the
conversion.
On 01/01/2011 07:52 PM, Carl Symons wrote:
I clicked on the list of events link on
http://www.documentfoundation.org/. There are several events listed
for North America. Would TDF consider being at LinuxFest Northwest in
Bellingham, 4/30 5/1? There will be an official call for papers in
early
On 01/01/2011 08:21 PM, Zaphod Feeblejocks wrote:
In the selection for which file-type to use, would the following phrasing be
useful. Docx is
there - just not encouraged! If my understanding is correct, docx is an xml
representation of
the binary format, so saying .doc is a format for Word
On 1/1/2011 11:07 AM, Zaphod Feeblejocks wrote:
Hi Sveinn,
Sure, but how about conservation and readability by future generations
(when there's no more Microsoft knowledge around and nobody knows
anymore how to decrypt all the nuances of.doc + .docx files) ?
Fair point.
But: most users do
On 01/01/2011 06:07 PM, Zaphod Feeblejocks wrote:
Remember the users.
TDF was born to bring back the user at the center of the project. Users
generate and manage documents.
Now that MS are giving away Office for free (on the web), or cheap (£40 to UK
school
students - free to many
On Sat Jan 01 2011 10:27:02 GMT-0800 (PST) Ian Lynch wrote:
Another consideration is that if we ignore docx until MS do drop .doc which
is long term inevitable, we could end up playing catch up in order to get
filter that are good enough to be credible. Better to start now and
incrementally
Well, we need to be able to import those transitional OOXML (2007-2010)
formats. If we can save to them, is not really necessary, (since MS office
suites 2007 2010 support MS-Office 2003 FF too), but is a nice to have
feature. The real ISO OOXML will be implemented by MS first on MS Office
2014.
On Dec 30, 2010, at 18:27 , Larry Gusaas wrote:
I will not support or use LibreOffice
until it stops helping spread OOXML by enabling writing in this file format.
There is absolutely no need to write in this proprietary format. To do so is
contrary to the principle of using ODF and open
Yes. Take a stand for inclusivity. :-)
On Jan 1, 2011 6:02 PM, James Wilde wilde.ja...@gmail.com wrote:
On Dec 30, 2010, at 18:27 , Larry Gusaas wrote:
I will not support or use LibreOffice
until it stops helping spread OOXML by enabling writing in this file
format. There is absolutely no
Larry Gusaas wrote:
They will instead see an 'office suite' that
doesn't support the formats they have and will go Well thats USELESS and
delete it from their system and install an office suite which DOES have
support,
MS Office still can read and write to .doc format. LibO ability to
OOo and LibO already do read those formats -- it's only the capability to write them that's an
issue. The Go-OO version and its derivatives, and as a consequence now LibO, write them, and
objecting to that is what started this whole (enormous) thread. The standard as written already
deprecates
On 1/1/2011 5:01 PM, James Wilde wrote:
On Dec 30, 2010, at 18:27 , Larry Gusaas wrote:
I will not support or use LibreOffice
until it stops helping spread OOXML by enabling writing in this file format.
There is absolutely no need to write in this proprietary format. To do so is
contrary to
Barbara,
First, ODF IS the ISO standard - honestly made so without the dirty
tricks that MS used to stuff the committee and force it to approve
something that wasn't ready to be used by anyone.
Second, MS refuses to support any ODF except the one that is actually an
ISO standard. That makes
On 01/01/2011 11:29 PM, Barbara Duprey wrote:
Several of the comments here suggest a middle road, allowing the save
but with a message clarifying the limitations of the format (and perhaps
recommending use of the XP formats if interoperating with an MS-only
shop; their ODF support is not truly
I disagree. LibreOffice isn't being developed as a political tool. It
is supposed to be useful in the modern office. Many of us have clients
and co-workers who use proprietary office formats, and we need to be
able to communicate with those folks. If I get an RFP in Office 10
format, I have to be
Happy New Year from Cumberland, MD and a video card to go along with my
Best wishes for a wonderful new year:
http://youtube.com/libreofficevols
or a HD Theora file of the video can be downloaded here
http://oucv.org/libreoffice/happy_new_year_LibreOffice.ogv.tar.gz
Happy New Year
Drew
On
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Jaime R. Garza gar...@gmail.com wrote:
But why only for Thunderbird?
Why not make an open container (or just modularize the existing one with a
well defined interface) to will allow any application to use the resources
(e.g. dictionaries) and have full
Jaime i only said Thunderbird cuz that's the client i use. there are
tons of others.
Todd i totally agree a standard needs to be reached. like there is the
ODF format a standardized dictionary format would be a great idea.
On 1/2/11 3:54 AM, todd rme wrote:
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 2:42 PM,
besides email people want a calendar as well as a to do list as well
functionality wise, which Thunderbird seems to lack.
On 1/1/11 8:36 PM, Lee Hyde wrote:
On 01/01/11 19:20, Craig A. Eddy wrote:
So, what am I saying? You don't NEED to add something useless like
Outlook or Evolution to LO.
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