[board-discuss] next BoD call tomorrow

2012-01-24 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hello, just as a reminder: the next BoD call will be tomorrow, 1600 UTC, on the usual channels, with the agenda to be drafted on the usual wiki page. ;-) The BoD needs to have a private call this week (contents will, according to our bylaws, be published as soon as possible afterwards), so

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibOCon proposals

2012-01-24 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2012-01-23 02:07, Florian Effenberger a écrit : - A third option would be to send out a voting invitation to everyone subscribe to a set of mailing lists (e.g. discuss@, announce@ and so on), but send them a private token. That way, only active people in the project could vote, but TDF

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibOCon proposals

2012-01-24 Thread Cor Nouws
Marc Paré wrote (24-01-12 10:36) This third option seems to make the most sense. As you imply, the most active members would then be included in the vote. I agree, but of course we say 'active people' here. As this is a form of filtering of our mailing lists active contributers, we could

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibOCon proposals

2012-01-24 Thread klaus-jürgen weghorn ol
Am 23.01.2012 08:07, schrieb Florian Effenberger: - Where I'm a bit undetermined is the voting scheme itself - One option is to allow every subscriber to the announce@ lists to vote (after e-mail confirmation in the voting system itself), - another one is to allow only TDF members to vote.

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibOCon proposals

2012-01-24 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol wrote on 2012-01-24 10:57: First when I saw this thread I expected a BoD-vote. I guess that would be the wrong direction. The conference is for the communit at large, so the community should decide. In theory, that means opening up a public link so anyone can

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibOCon proposals

2012-01-24 Thread Volker Merschmann
Hi Florian, 2012/1/23 Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org: [..] - Where I'm a bit undetermined is the voting scheme itself [..] - another one is to allow only TDF members to vote. The latter one would exclude joke votings like we have seen them in the past, but exclude many

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibOCon proposals

2012-01-24 Thread Volker Merschmann
Hi, 2012/1/24 Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org: So, I'd like to find some sensible mechanism to involve as many people as possible, without opening the door for misuse of the voting. Just a guess: A minimum of five postings to any of our mailinglists up to this day? Volker

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibOCon proposals

2012-01-24 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Volker Merschmann wrote on 2012-01-24 11:06: - another one is to allow only TDF members to vote. The latter one would exclude joke votings like we have seen them in the past, but exclude many eligible people. This is what I would prefer. I think this would exclude a fair amount of

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibOCon proposals

2012-01-24 Thread Cor Nouws
Florian Effenberger wrote (24-01-12 11:26) I think this would exclude a fair amount of contributors. Many of e.g. the code contributors are not members, but indeed do a very valueable work. Excluding them from voting sounds wrong. And it's not logic: the conference is not meant for members

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibOCon proposals

2012-01-24 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
On 1/24/12 11:04 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol wrote on 2012-01-24 10:57: First when I saw this thread I expected a BoD-vote. I guess that would be the wrong direction. The conference is for the communit at large, so the community should decide. In theory,

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibOCon proposals

2012-01-24 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2012-01-24 12:49: Would this help any facilitating the votes? http://doodle.com/ maybe, but I am not so keen in having so large votes on an ad-financed platform. Maybe we can use an own survey system. Florian -- Florian Effenberger

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibOCon proposals

2012-01-24 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Helli Florian I'd still go for letting TDF members vote, why would we have the membership then? :-) Best, Charles. Le 24 janv. 2012 13:09, Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org a écrit : Hi, Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2012-01-24 12:49: Would this help any facilitating the

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibOCon proposals

2012-01-24 Thread Olivier Hallot
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi All, Em 24-01-2012 09:03, Cor Nouws escreveu: Florian Effenberger wrote (24-01-12 11:26) I think this would exclude a fair amount of contributors. Many of e.g. the code contributors are not members, but indeed do a very valueable work.

[tdf-discuss] Fonts

2012-01-24 Thread Robert Boehm
Hi...just a general question as I test LO 3.5: Ever since LoDEV versions of 3.5 I cannot find the general FONT section in options for setting the default FONT which is easily found in all older versions. Did it move or is it omitted for some reason? I have searched high and low to find this

Re: [tdf-discuss] Fonts

2012-01-24 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Bob, Robert Boehm wrote (24-01-12 16:06) Hi...just a general question as I test LO 3.5: Ever since LoDEV versions of 3.5 I cannot find the general FONT section in options for setting the default FONT which is easily found in all older versions. Did it move or is it omitted for some reason?

Re: [tdf-discuss] Fonts

2012-01-24 Thread Robert Boehm
Thank-you so much! Bob On 01/24/2012 09:19 AM, Cor Nouws wrote: Hi Bob, Robert Boehm wrote (24-01-12 16:06) Hi...just a general question as I test LO 3.5: Ever since LoDEV versions of 3.5 I cannot find the general FONT section in options for setting the default FONT which is easily found in

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibOCon proposals

2012-01-24 Thread drew
On Tue, 2012-01-24 at 12:48 -0200, Olivier Hallot wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi All, Em 24-01-2012 09:03, Cor Nouws escreveu: Florian Effenberger wrote (24-01-12 11:26) I think this would exclude a fair amount of contributors. Many of e.g. the code

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibOCon proposals

2012-01-24 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi, Am 24.01.2012 14:26, schrieb Charles-H. Schulz: I'd still go for letting TDF members vote, why would we have the membership then? :-) Beeing committed to the project does not necessarily mean to be a member of the TDF. The event is supposed to be a LibreOffice Conference rather than a TDF

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibOCon proposals

2012-01-24 Thread sophie
On 24/01/2012 12:03, Cor Nouws wrote: Florian Effenberger wrote (24-01-12 11:26) I think this would exclude a fair amount of contributors. Many of e.g. the code contributors are not members, but indeed do a very valueable work. Excluding them from voting sounds wrong. And it's not logic: the

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibOCon proposals

2012-01-24 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Olivier Hallot wrote on 2012-01-24 15:48: Voting is a measure of traceable membership participation/activity. Otherwise we can get spammed on untraceable votes to send us where we don't want LibCon to happen. by that, we would exclude a large amount of developers, and I am sure want to

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibOCon proposals

2012-01-24 Thread Robert Derman
Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, Olivier Hallot wrote on 2012-01-24 15:48: Voting is a measure of traceable membership participation/activity. Otherwise we can get spammed on untraceable votes to send us where we don't want LibCon to happen. by that, we would exclude a large amount of