Re: [tdf-discuss] Houston, we have a problem.

2010-10-18 Thread Paul A Norman
Please, James is right - it is very very difficult as just a User to find your way around - I've said it a couple of times, and it is really really true. Paul On 18 October 2010 22:34, Stefan Weigel stefan.wei...@bildungskreis.org wrote: Hi, Chris Carpenter schrieb: Well, there have been

Re: [tdf-discuss] Houston, we have a problem.

2010-10-18 Thread Paul A Norman
who is contemplating these issues. Paul On 19 October 2010 12:16, Paul A Norman paul.a.nor...@gmail.com wrote: I personally realsie and appreciate that a lot of focuus has been on the divorce from Oracle. But there is an old saying that the seed that is sown in the ground is the seed

[tdf-discuss] Isa this the Hotel California? Can't Delist

2010-10-18 Thread Paul A Norman
I have tried to delist from this fiasco and I am still getting emails -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibO Beta 2 Writer/Web (Html Document)

2010-10-18 Thread Paul A Norman
.  I hope you stick around and get your answers.     Jon On 10/18/2010 05:21 PM, Paul A Norman wrote: I'm delisting from all Libre Office connections that is a complete misreperesntation of the situation and rude to boot. You people really do appear to  have no care for Users at all

Re: [tdf-discuss] Houston, we have a problem.

2010-10-18 Thread Paul A Norman
Thanks Roxy, Yes that it what I got too and used to try and unsubscribe but still the emails keep rolling in. I used the approriate thing for the other hidden list I was herded onto abruptely as well. One of the ones that you could not find by yourself, it was after all only the Users' Help

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibO Beta 2 Writer/Web (Html Document)

2010-10-18 Thread Paul A Norman
On 19 October 2010 16:32, Jon Hamkins hamk...@alumni.caltech.edu wrote: On 10/18/2010 08:24 PM, Paul A Norman wrote: Try and ghet these things through to the others. If OOO fades what will poorer schools, Not for proftis and poorer memebrs of the community have if LiBO doesn't really get its

Re: [tdf-discuss] Houston, we have a problem.

2010-10-18 Thread Paul A Norman
they are wrong, or you will all end up in a dead end. Paul On 19 October 2010 16:26, Jon Hamkins hamk...@alumni.caltech.edu wrote: On 10/18/2010 08:11 PM, Paul A Norman wrote: Hidden under Contribute on their current front paghe they ahve weay down some where some lists - who knows there might

Re: [tdf-discuss] Houston, we have a problem.

2010-10-18 Thread Paul A Norman
2010 16:58, Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 16:11 +1300, Paul A Norman wrote: Hidden under Contribute on their current front paghe they ahve weay down some where some lists - who knows there might even be a more appropriate list. I was told off for trying

Re: [tdf-discuss] Houston, we have a problem.

2010-10-18 Thread Paul A Norman
Yep I've had two confirmtatoin that I have left the list and still the emails come rolling Does this constitute nuisnace email now? Paul On 19 October 2010 17:06, Roxy Robinson rocma...@ranchwireless.com wrote: As I said previously, if I am hollering I will have an entire

Re: [tdf-discuss] Houston, we have a problem.

2010-10-18 Thread Paul A Norman
You're a good sort thanks Jean. On 19 October 2010 17:22, Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 17:09 +1300, Paul A Norman wrote: Yep I've had two confirmtatoin that I have left the list and still the emails come rolling Does this constitute nuisnace email now

[tdf-discuss] Don't make the mistake of the pigs

2010-10-17 Thread Paul A Norman
Dear LibreOffice Community, My few brief experiences with all this (esp on the help+user list) have convinced me that if there are any wise or mature individuals able to take the helm of your project - then read Animal Farm by George Orwell, and make sure you don't make the mistake of the pigs.

Re: [tdf-discuss] A Map of Bibliographic systems? was: LibO roadmap?

2010-10-17 Thread Paul A Norman
Please don;t forget interaction with *TeX family of projects in this. Paul On 17 October 2010 10:07, j.martin.pedersen m.peder...@lancaster.ac.uk wrote: On 16/10/10 20:48, Simos Xenitellis wrote: On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 7:18 PM, j.martin.pedersen m.peder...@lancaster.ac.uk wrote: Hi,

[tdf-discuss] LibO Beta 2 miss-reporting version?

2010-10-17 Thread Paul A Norman
I was asked recently on help+users if I even had Beta 2 I had already done a complete uninatall of my first version of LibreOffice I had downloaded LibO_3.3.0_beta2_Win_x86_install_multi.exe It unpacked as LibreOffice 3.3 (4cb0e024) Installation Files Oncve installed help about reports it as:

[tdf-discuss] Re: LibO Beta 2 miss-reporting version?

2010-10-17 Thread Paul A Norman
What about building a reporting tool into LibO that would send relevent info and comments from the user? Paul On 18 October 2010 14:46, Paul A Norman paul.a.nor...@gmail.com wrote: I was asked recently on help+users if I even had Beta 2 I had already done a complete uninatall of my first

Re: LibO Install/Update ( was [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates)

2010-10-17 Thread Paul A Norman
Re early discussion on Wondpws install and unpacked install files... Would they need to be present for the Windows Control Panel/ Add remove Programs/ Support Info - - Repair button to work? Paul -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibO Beta 2 Libre Office Writer/Web (Html Document) Settings Form Controls disappearing

2010-10-16 Thread Paul A Norman
: 'Arial', sans-serif; font-size: 12ptBRBR /P /FORM /BODY On 17 October 2010 16:32, Andy Brown a...@the-martin-byrd.net wrote: On Sat Oct 16 2010 20:17:30 GMT-0700 (PDT)  Paul A Norman wrote: So then, I cleared my document down to just a label at the top. I had not yet saved

Re: [tdf-discuss] I like the name LibreOffice

2010-10-14 Thread Paul A Norman
no claim to these names and don't know if they're previously copyrighted, copylefted or under any sort of license) Regards, Eric On Oct 13, 2010, at 3:24 AM, Paul A Norman paul.a.nor...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you Stefan, I'm not hooked on any partiacular name just two main

Re: [tdf-discuss] I like the name LibreOffice

2010-10-12 Thread Paul A Norman
Jon, I really agree with you. Its not about how the 'name' works for any of us, but for potential users. As bad as it may sound, we need to think as if we were actually relying on marketing it as a paid product (which I am not advocating) but still need to think about market reactions as

Re: [tdf-discuss] I like the name LibreOffice

2010-10-12 Thread Paul A Norman
It would be nice to have something that works really well in International English, and that sounded good to Asians as well. Chinese friends inform me that they sometimes have troubole with words/part words that end in R My Indian friends for the most part would have no trouble saying the name

Re: [tdf-discuss] Important Information in Wrong Place

2010-10-12 Thread Paul A Norman
This sort of thing is what I was trying to get at in the thread Forums, Wikis, mailing lists two days ago. Paul On 13 October 2010 03:42, Charles Marcus cmar...@media-brokers.com wrote: On 2010-10-12 9:43 AM, Harold Fuchs wrote: Currently the only list of e-mail lists (including discuss@ and

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO roadmap?

2010-10-11 Thread Paul A Norman
Many people (students, scholars, technical writers, etc) want a word proce ssor, but with much greater indexing and authoring tools (You could involve Univ ersities as partners?). Would that perhaps be reinventing the wheel a little - perhaps some would find LaTeX and associated utlities

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO roadmap?

2010-10-11 Thread Paul A Norman
P.S. I should have mentioned from a WYSIWYG perspective LYX http://www.lyx.org/ Paul On 11 October 2010 23:43, Paul A Norman paul.a.nor...@gmail.com wrote: Many people (students, scholars, technical writers, etc) want a word proce ssor, but with much greater indexing and authoring tools (You

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibO roadmap?

2010-10-11 Thread Paul A Norman
wrote: Thanks for the reply, Paul A Norman wrote: Would that perhaps be reinventing the wheel a little - perhaps some would find LaTeX and associated utlities useful? Of course! If the wheel turns well :) http://www.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/indexing/makeindex/doc/makeindex.pdf http

[tdf-discuss] Forums, Wikis, mailing lists

2010-10-10 Thread Paul A Norman
HI, I am becoming a little confused over where Document Foundation stuff lives - and communications take place, and the relationships between different channels. Is there a central list any where of where the 'main' stuff takes place please? Paul -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to

[tdf-discuss] LiBO opening very quickly on Xp

2010-10-07 Thread Paul A Norman
Hi, I have been noticing now for two days that LiBO opens from scratch, even after re-boots, very quickly compared to my even recent experiences with OOO. Has this been enhanced? If so then it is a real feature point as OOO used to take ages to open sometimes. Paul -- To unsubscribe, send an

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Feature Request

2010-10-06 Thread Paul A Norman
Great - And the Bug tracker allows users to submit enhancements' requests : Thanks, Paul On 6 October 2010 22:07, Valter Mura valterm...@gmail.com wrote: In data martedì 5 ottobre 2010 20:55:56, RGB ES ha scritto: There is also a brainstorm section on kde forums:

[tdf-discuss] Feature Request

2010-10-05 Thread Paul A Norman
Hi, Is this the right place to discuss feature requests please? Paul -- To unsubscribe, send an empty e-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. List archives are available at

Re: [tdf-discuss] New name

2010-10-05 Thread Paul A Norman
For what it is worth -- my2c LibreOffice Very well expresses the concept of what is being achieved, from the development and adminsitratoin point of view. From an end users perspective ... Well, in International or other English, and possibly some other Germanic/Nordic languages, it is a bit

[tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates

2010-10-05 Thread Paul A Norman
Not sure where thinking is on this for LiBO at the moment, but is it concievable that updating even to each new version could, after a User response, be automatic and if elected by the User - replace the previous version automatically please? Paul -- To unsubscribe, send an empty e-mail to

Re: [tdf-discuss] Automatic Updates

2010-10-05 Thread Paul A Norman
. Paul On 6 October 2010 13:35, Goran Rakic gra...@devbase.net wrote: У сре, 06. 10 2010. у 13:22 +1300, Paul A Norman пише: Not sure where thinking is on this for LiBO at the moment, but is it concievable that updating even to each new version could, after a User response, be automatic