Þann mið 20.okt 2010 07:24, skrifaði Sebastian Spaeth:
On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 17:07:47 -0500, Barbara Dupreyb...@onr.com wrote:
If you would like to monitor what is happening here in the future you
may want a web interface to the mailing lists - I will be leaving this
page up
As nearly nobody can read all the mails here thoroughly, I just repeat
what I read:
Charles Marcus schrieb:
On 2010-10-19 8:11 AM, Xi Embalsado wrote:
WOW! I could never fit a size 50 to a size 2! Well at least don't go
to the Microsoft Office size (600MB) Better make things in separate
On 2010-10-18 6:13 PM, Andy Brown wrote:
Not trying to put words in your mouth, so to speak, but I think you
intended without instead of with. Which I agree with. There should
have been better planing on several levels.
This isn't productive... how about making suggestions for how to improve
Sorry for typing that (I was too excited for the RTM version). I have a
question... Why is the Beta 2 twice as big as Beta 1?
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2010/10/19 Xi Embalsado newecrea...@hotmail.com:
Sorry for typing that (I was too excited for the RTM version). I have a
question... Why is the Beta 2 twice as big as Beta 1?
It contains about fifty languages for the UI.
Regards
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On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 07:49 -0400, Charles Marcus wrote:
... how about making suggestions for how to improve
things going forward and stop complaining about what is already done?
IIRC, several people have suggested some small changes to the current
website that would make a significant
Sorry... I'm new here and my inbox is getting to be 700 messages filled up.
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On 2010-10-19 8:11 AM, Xi Embalsado wrote:
WOW! I could never fit a size 50 to a size 2! Well at least don't go
to the Microsoft Office size (600MB) Better make things in separate
languages. Sorry for some big comments there...
What would make more sense to me is to make one installer with
On 2010-10-19 8:12 AM, Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 07:49 -0400, Charles Marcus wrote:
... how about making suggestions for how to improve
things going forward and stop complaining about what is already done?
IIRC, several people have suggested some small changes to the
On Oct 19, 2010, at 13:49 , Charles Marcus wrote:
...
This isn't productive... how about making suggestions for how to improve
things going forward and stop complaining about what is already done?
(from the original post)
Action point 1: redirect TDF to LibO and not vice versa or have TDF
On Oct 19, 2010, at 13:49 , Charles Marcus wrote:
...
This isn't productive... how about making suggestions for how to improve
things going forward and stop complaining about what is already done?
Better still, kill the conversation in here, as has been suggested twice now,
and continue it
On 10/18/2010 11:38 PM, Drew Jensen wrote:
On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 17:09 +1300, Paul A Norman wrote:
Yep I've had two confirmtatoin that I have left the list and still the
emails come rolling
Does this constitute nuisnace email now?
Paul
Sure - you click on reply to the confirmation emails -
Hi,
James Wilde schrieb:
There is also a forum. How I'm going to find that there is a
libreofficeforum.org I don't know. Maybe it's referenced somewhere. I think
there was a link on the Contribute page, alongside the link to 'some lists'.
However, the forum address should be
On 10/18/2010 03:23 AM, Stefan Weigel wrote:
Hi,
James Wilde schrieb:
There is also a forum. How I'm going to find that there is a
libreofficeforum.org I don't know. Maybe it's referenced somewhere. I
think there was a link on the Contribute page, alongside the link to
'some lists'. However,
Hi,
Chris Carpenter schrieb:
Well, there have been doubts, if it makes sense to open yet another
forum, since the existing forums are all community driven and support
OOo and all of its derivates as well.
In this case, shouldn't there be links to these other forums?
Sure. But I think,
Please, James is right - it is very very difficult as just a User to
find your way around - I've said it a couple of times, and it is
really really true.
Paul
On 18 October 2010 22:34, Stefan Weigel stefan.wei...@bildungskreis.org wrote:
Hi,
Chris Carpenter schrieb:
Well, there have been
Hi,
Paul A Norman schrieb:
Please, James is right
I didn´t say he´s wrong.
Stefan
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2010/10/18 Charles Marcus cmar...@media-brokers.com:
On 2010-10-18 3:38 AM, James Wilde wrote:
Action point 5: Let the list system fade out, or at least move it
down the priorities for user support. I know there are people in
here who live in the Unix world - I did myself once - and use
On 2010-10-18 10:07 AM, Sigrid Carrera wrote:
yes, indeed, Mailman does support something like a
mailinglist-forum-bridge. I am also involved in the new Mageia
distribution and one of the participants there has for test purposes
created such a forum-mailinglist gateway. You can read his
All of you folks that are running this show had better start thinking about
what the USERS need's are, or pretty soon you are going to turn around and find
that most of your users have left. I have been using OOo for almost as long as
it has been available and have told many people about it.
Hi
Þann mán 18.okt 2010 15:08, skrifaði Roxy Robinson:
All of you folks that are running this show had better
start thinking about what the USERS need's are, or pretty
soon you are going to turn around and find that most of
your users have left. I have been using OOo for almost as
long as it
Le 2010-10-18 10:07, Sigrid Carrera a écrit :
Hi,
2010/10/18 Charles Marcuscmar...@media-brokers.com:
On 2010-10-18 3:38 AM, James Wilde wrote:
Action point 5: Let the list system fade out, or at least move it
down the priorities for user support. I know there are people in
here who live in
Please don't shout, we get the message.
If I had been shouting the entire message would have been all caps. I was using
all caps for EMPHASIS!
Technically there are not yet any normal LibreOffice users; there's not yet
any official release, only a beta.
Is this not hoped to be a move of all the
On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 09:25:52 -0400, Charles Marcus cmar...@media-brokers.com
wrote:
Best would be to find some way to integrate a decent forum platform with
a decent mail list manager...
The nabble forums are rather easy to integrate in a website and provide
seamless integration with a
On Mon, 2010-10-18 at 21:15 +0200, Sebastian Spaeth wrote:
On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 09:25:52 -0400, Charles Marcus
cmar...@media-brokers.com wrote:
Best would be to find some way to integrate a decent forum platform with
a decent mail list manager...
The nabble forums are rather easy to
On 2010-10-18 3:15 PM, Sebastian Spaeth wrote:
On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 09:25:52 -0400, Charles Marcus
cmar...@media-brokers.com wrote:
Best would be to find some way to integrate a decent forum platform with
a decent mail list manager...
The nabble forums are rather easy to integrate in a
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 04:12:35PM +, Sveinn � Felli wrote:
.humongous snip..
I think that it would be beneficial to launch a new thread on
user-services, navigation and user-feedback in order to find a good
structure and basic organisation. Even if things like
I believe if it had been me: establish the main steering committee, while at
the same time get the website set up. Then, before ever issuing - especially a
BETA VERSION - software, I would use the website to introduce the WHAT, WHERE,
WHY, WHEN, AND HOW of the new organization. Why it exists,
On 10/18/2010 01:58 PM, Roxy Robinson wrote:
I believe if it had been me: establish the main steering committee,
while at the same time get the website set up. Then, before ever
issuing - especially a BETA VERSION - software, I would use the
website to introduce the WHAT, WHERE, WHY, WHEN,
Well, you can think what you want to think and I, as just a common every day, 9
year user of OOo, will think what I want to think. Your thoughts went way
beyond what I said needed to be done, anyway. To release any software, beta or
otherwise, with the support/instruction function in place, is
On Mon Oct 18 2010 15:00:59 GMT-0700 (PDT) Roxy Robinson wrote:
Well, you can think what you want to think and I, as just a common every day, 9
year user of OOo, will think what I want to think. Your thoughts went way
beyond what I said needed to be done, anyway. To release any software, beta
Thanks, Andy, I did mean without, of course. I do that quite often, because I
think ahead of what I type. Too often, too far ahead.
Roxy
On Mon Oct 18 2010 15:00:59 GMT-0700 (PDT) Roxy Robinson wrote:
Well, you can think what you want to think and I, as just a common every day,
9 year user
On 10/18/2010 03:00 PM, Roxy Robinson wrote:
Well, you can think what you want to think and I, as just a common
every day, 9 year user of OOo, will think what I want to think. Your
thoughts went way beyond what I said needed to be done, anyway. To
release any software, beta or otherwise,
p.s. The Swiss have, through the centuries, developed a real sense of
checks and balances in participatory decession making porocesses that
really efficently get things done in a way that they feel satisfied
their goals and aims are being met.
I'll rest on this now - I hope that it helps any one
I was saying I have been using OOo 9 years - and actually when I start counting
its probably a year or 2 longer - only because I have used it exclusively as my
office program. I'm not trying to establish a reputation for anything except
for being a bit dissatisfied with the way things are going
On 10/18/2010 07:27 PM, Roxy Robinson wrote:
You just don't get it - the web page is the problem. There is nothing there to
learn.
Is there something you are trying to find out? I am willing to help you
learn the answers.
Jon
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Thanks Roxy,
Yes that it what I got too and used to try and unsubscribe but still
the emails keep rolling in.
I used the approriate thing for the other hidden list I was herded
onto abruptely as well.
One of the ones that you could not find by yourself, it was after all
only the Users' Help
On 10/18/2010 08:07 PM, Roxy Robinson wrote:
I have been learning most of the answers through this email list, which is, of
course, the reason I joined it in the first place. Because there wasn't
anything to learn on the web page. But now my inbox is inundated with mail, and
I shouldn't have
On 10/18/2010 08:11 PM, Paul A Norman wrote:
Hidden under Contribute on their current front paghe they ahve weay
down some where some lists - who knows there might even be a more
appropriate list.
I was told off for trying to report a fault in the beta 2 here and
told to go to the User's Help
Still getting email even though I've had two confirmed unsubscribed(s)
Jon,
I really liek you trying to help - but please is it worth defending
the indefensible?
For a memeber of the public would they ever guess that Contriubte
means Help Availabel Here
Don't defend community actions when they
Thanks Jean,
I really appreciate that you probably did not realise how frustrated
quite a few Users are when being told you should be on a list that
should actually have been all too obvious to you - but you could never
find on the web page.
A list that is supposed to guide you to help and you
As I said previously, if I am hollering I will have an entire
sentence/thought/paragraph in all caps. And since not all email programs will
accept text that is bold, underlined, colored, or italicized I will continue to
use all caps for emphasis, especially since that only includes a word or 2.
Yep I've had two confirmtatoin that I have left the list and still the
emails come rolling
Does this constitute nuisnace email now?
Paul
On 19 October 2010 17:06, Roxy Robinson rocma...@ranchwireless.com wrote:
As I said previously, if I am hollering I will have an entire
On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 17:09 +1300, Paul A Norman wrote:
Yep I've had two confirmtatoin that I have left the list and still the
emails come rolling
Does this constitute nuisnace email now?
It's probably a glitch in the email system. Unfortunately, it's the
middle of the night for the people
On 10/18/2010 08:57 PM, Paul A Norman wrote:
I really liek you trying to help - but please is it worth defending
the indefensible?
For a memeber of the public would they ever guess that Contriubte
means Help Availabel Here
I thought you were implying that you couldn't get to the mailing
On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 17:02 +1300, Paul A Norman wrote:
Thanks Jean,
I really appreciate that you probably did not realise how frustrated
quite a few Users are when being told you should be on a list that
should actually have been all too obvious to you - but you could never
find on the web
On 18/10/10 10:22 PM, Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 17:09 +1300, Paul A Norman wrote:
Yep I've had two confirmtatoin that I have left the list and still the
emails come rolling
Does this constitute nuisnace email now?
It's probably a glitch in the email system.
On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 00:41 -0400, Drew Jensen wrote:
hi Jean,
Just being redundant here (multiple posts) - people can use the nabble
web interface to the mailing lists if they prefer.
sorry - missed an 'l'
http://oucv.org/tdf.htm
but I'll keep it there and make it nicer over time - so
You're a good sort thanks Jean.
On 19 October 2010 17:22, Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 17:09 +1300, Paul A Norman wrote:
Yep I've had two confirmtatoin that I have left the list and still the
emails come rolling
Does this constitute nuisnace email now?
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