Re: [tdf-discuss] List available at GMANE

2010-10-09 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Am 09.10.2010 um 05:20 schrieb NoOp: Like the OOo lists (and other gmane.org lists), posts via gmane.org shouldn't also require a direct email subscription as gmane.org does the email verification directly before allowing a user to post to a list. So perhaps some added tuning with

Re: [tdf-discuss] List available at GMANE

2010-10-09 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi Larry, Larry Gusaas wrote on 2010-10-09 18.36: Gmane is a newsgroup. They require verification of the the sender before they post the message. This serves the same purpose as subscribing to this list. Any senders of spam can be removed. It is redundant to require the user to subscribe to

Re: [tdf-discuss] List available at GMANE

2010-10-09 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-10-09 12:36 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: It is redundant to require the user to subscribe to the mailing list in order to post through Gmane. The page at http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.discuss clearly states Status: posting allowed. If subscription to the mailing list

Re: [tdf-discuss] List available at GMANE

2010-10-09 Thread Bernhard Dippold
Hi Larry, Larry Gusaas schrieb: On 2010/10/09 4:36 AM Florian Effenberger wrote: [...] of course we do require subscription for people who want to subscribe to mailing lists. Otherwise, we'd be the victim of spam very soon. Gmane is a newsgroup. They require verification of the the sender

Re: [tdf-discuss] List available at GMANE

2010-10-09 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2010/10/09 10:46 AM Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi Larry, Larry Gusaas wrote on 2010-10-09 18.36: Gmane is a newsgroup. They require verification of the the sender before they post the message. This serves the same purpose as subscribing to this list. Any senders of spam can be removed.

Re: [tdf-discuss] List available at GMANE

2010-10-09 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2010/10/09 10:47 AM Charles Marcus wrote: I for one am glad that posting is only allowed by subscribers. Imho there was far too much noise on the old OOo lists due to postings being allowed by non-subscribers. Agreed about the noise. However that has nothing to do with Gmane. The

Re: [tdf-discuss] List available at GMANE

2010-10-09 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2010/10/09 10:49 AM Bernhard Dippold wrote: In my opinion Gmane posting is an additional nice-to-have feature, that can be improved, when time allows it. ... especially if there is a workaround (subscribe-nomail) ... That is not a workaround. The purpose of Gmane is to treat a email list

Re: [tdf-discuss] List available at GMANE

2010-10-09 Thread Bernhard Dippold
Hi Larry, Larry Gusaas schrieb: On 2010/10/09 10:46 AM Florian Effenberger wrote: [...] on our side, only senders who are subscribed to the list can post to it. I won't change this, as otherwise every spammer can just flood the list with emails. Florian Allowing posting from Gmane without

Re: [tdf-discuss] List available at GMANE

2010-10-09 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-10-09 1:18 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: Why would I want to receive emails from this list when I can read and reply through Gmane's News Server (NNTP) ? ??? What do you think NOMAIL means? If you subscribe to the nomail version, you don't receive any emails. -- Best regards, Charles --

Re: [tdf-discuss] List available at GMANE

2010-10-09 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2010/10/09 11:46 AM Bernhard Dippold wrote: If we are able to work with normal workload, allowing postings from Gmane would be a topic. As it was possible at OpenOffice.org, I'm quite sure it would be possible for our lists too. But please let's pend this topic for some more weeks - it

Re: [tdf-discuss] List available at GMANE

2010-10-09 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Bernhard Dippold wrote on 2010-10-09 19.38: If you had read the other mails in this thread, you should have noticed that the nomail option of the list allows to subscribe without being sent any mail. So why can't you accept this as workaround? thanks Bernhard! Indeed, my workload is

Re: [tdf-discuss] List available at GMANE

2010-10-09 Thread NoOp
On 10/09/2010 03:36 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, Am 09.10.2010 um 05:20 schrieb NoOp: Like the OOo lists (and other gmane.org lists), posts via gmane.org shouldn't also require a direct email subscription as gmane.org does the email verification directly before allowing a user to

Re: [tdf-discuss] List available at GMANE

2010-10-09 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Larry, *, Larry Gusaas schrieb: Then why did you set up Gmane in the first place? Why not do it properly in the first place? for the others which want to read by nntp and don't worry to be subscribed. -- Just ignore it! :o)) Nowhere on

Re: [tdf-discuss] List available at GMANE

2010-10-09 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2010/10/09 3:47 PM Bernhard Dippold wrote: Larry Gusaas schrieb: Then why did you set up Gmane in the first place? Why not do it properly in the first place? Because it's an external resource. Mailing lists are the center of our community's activity, so we can't give away it's

Re: [tdf-discuss] List available at GMANE

2010-10-08 Thread NoOp
On 10/06/2010 06:12 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, finally, this list is also available via GMANE: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.discuss Florian Working? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this

Re: [tdf-discuss] List available at GMANE

2010-10-08 Thread Florian Effenberger
It does for me? Am 09.10.2010 um 02:33 schrieb NoOp: Working? -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 Fax: +49 8341 99660889 Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca:

Re: [tdf-discuss] List available at GMANE

2010-10-08 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-08 20:33, NoOp a écrit : On 10/06/2010 06:12 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, finally, this list is also available via GMANE: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.discuss Florian Working? Works for me on Thunderbird as my newsreader. Marc -- To unsubscribe,

Re: [tdf-discuss] List available at GMANE

2010-10-08 Thread NoOp
On 10/08/2010 07:40 PM, Marc Paré wrote: Le 2010-10-08 20:33, NoOp a écrit : On 10/06/2010 06:12 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, finally, this list is also available via GMANE: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.discuss Florian Working? Works for me on

Re: [tdf-discuss] List available at GMANE

2010-10-08 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-10-09 00:15, Marc Paré a écrit : Questions for Marc (and others on the list: 1. are you also subscribed to the list via the standard email discuss+subscr...@documentfoundation.org? Hi Gary, I was and just this minute un-subscribed. I like being subscribed as I like to guage the

[tdf-discuss] List available at GMANE

2010-10-06 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, finally, this list is also available via GMANE: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.discuss Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 Fax: +49 8341 99660889 Mobile: