[tdf-discuss] the Meaning of access in manifesto

2011-02-08 Thread Johannes A. Bodwing
Hello, what does access mean in the manifesto: to eliminate the digital divide in society by giving everyone access to office productivity tools free of charge to enable them to participate as full citizens in the 21st century Is it only the possibility for someone to download from

Re: [tdf-discuss] Do not support writing to OOXML format

2011-01-04 Thread Johannes A. Bodwing
Hi Ian, ... And they are not equal. That's my problem with it at the moment. I don't really understand how this democratic-meritocratic principle works. And what you explain below with Microsoft, for me it is not meritocratic or democratic that's an ethical aspect. Democracy means that

[tdf-discuss] LO 3.3 RC 2 - Colour for insert columns and rows in Writer

2011-01-03 Thread Johannes A. Bodwing
Hello, it's about a table in writer and the icons to insert columns and rows. The colour now is yellow. I find it not a good choice because it's a pale kind of yellow and not good to see. What about a more saturated yellow or a kind of blue or purple or orange? LO 3.3 RC2 with XP pro

Re: [tdf-discuss] Do not support writing to OOXML format

2011-01-03 Thread Johannes A. Bodwing
Hi Italo, On 1/3/11 7:38 AM, Johannes A. Bodwing wrote: Where can I read it? Is it in the next decade manifesto? http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/announce/msg00016.html Thanks for the Link. - And I could ask the next questions, but I save it for later. I try to get

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

2011-01-03 Thread Johannes A. Bodwing
Hi Italo, On 1/3/11 8:43 AM, Johannes A. Bodwing wrote: What's the background (for ESC) to decide what leads to the best software for users? I apologize for repeating myself, but the ESC will decide upon positive contributions, suggestions or requests. You suggest a feature, promote

Re: [tdf-discuss] Do not support writing to OOXML format

2011-01-02 Thread Johannes A. Bodwing
Hi Leif, Dear Larry, ... I disagree with you of two reasons: 1) LibreOffice is free software. If any developer wants to improve the code - he or she has the freedom to do so. I think this is one very important stand. We have seen other products in the marked licensed as open source but that are

Re: [tdf-discuss] Do not support writing to OOXML format

2011-01-02 Thread Johannes A. Bodwing
Hi Andreas, Hi Johannes, *, Am Sonntag, 2. Januar 2011, 19:30:31 schrieb Johannes A. Bodwing: Hi Leif, Dear Larry, ... I disagree with you of two reasons: 1) LibreOffice is free software. If any developer wants to improve the code - he or she has the freedom to do so. I think this is one

Re: [tdf-discuss] Do not support writing to OOXML format

2011-01-02 Thread Johannes A. Bodwing
Hi Andreas, ... Hi Johannes, *, Am Sonntag, 2. Januar 2011, 21:36:20 schrieb Johannes A. Bodwing: Hi Andreas, Hi Johannes, *, (...) But you yourself had to decide first, what you want to contribute to which community (OOo or LO). We need people who are doing the daily work. We need

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Name Change for LibreOffice Applications

2010-12-20 Thread Johannes A. Bodwing
Hello, ... for Spreadsheed / Presentation / Drawing / Formula. ... So we could have: Text Table Presentation Drawing Formula I think we discuss on the basis of computer-stoneage. For example Writer/Word/Text e.g., this began decades ago with only text and a handful of fonts and simple

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Name Change for LibreOffice Applications

2010-12-20 Thread Johannes A. Bodwing
Hi Jeremy and others, ... Johannes A. Bodwingjo...@arcor.de wrote: If we change names, we should do it on the background of the real functions of a modern Office-Suite. For that eventually we have to think deeply about a complete new naming-background for the future LO. On Sat, 18 Dec 2010

Re: [tdf-discuss] Community Management

2010-12-16 Thread Johannes A. Bodwing
Hello, On 12/16/2010 3:45 AM, Cor Nouws wrote: Benjamin Horst wrote (14-12-10 16:21) I agree with you about the possible negative connotations of the term manager, but I think it's just a terminology problem. You could think of the role as Community Facilitator or even host if you prefer. The

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: TDF/LO on a wrong way?

2010-12-15 Thread Johannes A. Bodwing
Hi Marc, here just the first point. ... Le 2010-12-14 07:52, Johannes A. Bodwing a écrit : Sorry people, ... I fear we will loose our goals short after beginning. OK, that's hard. But look at OOo and its goals and what is realized after ten years. We will work on the goals, mission, values

Re: [tdf-discuss] Community Management

2010-12-14 Thread Johannes A. Bodwing
Hello Benjamin, ... ... Jono has written a book called The Art of Community, which describes his approach. It's available to purchase or download under a CC license from his site: http://www.artofcommunityonline.org/get/ This would be a great read for all of us involved in TDF as we strive

[tdf-discuss] TDF/LO on a wrong way?

2010-12-14 Thread Johannes A. Bodwing
Sorry people, I think we are on a wrong way. Why? OK, there is hard work on every side, but what is the core of all? And how do we realize this core around the world with a structure for a long, long time? For example, look at HOME on the website. There you find: LibreOffice - Welcome to

Re: [tdf-discuss] Bring up libreoffice.org website to world *now*

2010-12-08 Thread Johannes A. Bodwing
Sorry people 2, Sorry people, ... *Get It!* two lines below should stand on the right side of the website, big and as a Link. writing texts drawing *Get It !* [as a Link to the Download-Side] spreadsheet and many more Than follows the rest: ... Johannes -- Unsubscribe

Re: [tdf-discuss] Bring up libreoffice.org website to world *now*

2010-12-08 Thread Johannes A. Bodwing
Hi Bernhard, ... Please propose your valid ideas on the website mailing list or - if you have some spare time - perhaps you could work on the site directly (with the built-in editor SilverStripe is quite easy to be used). I have no spare time, but I'll try to squeeze it into 24 hours of

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Vision/Mission

2010-12-03 Thread Johannes A. Bodwing
Hello, late, but I found it just right now. Hi, :-) On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 12:20, Sonic4Spudssonic4sp...@gmail.com wrote: productivity software for home and office Corel calls Word Perfect Office X5 The essential office suite for home and business. For LO I think, it has to hook up

[tdf-discuss] PM für LO 3.3 - Grundfragen

2010-11-09 Thread Johannes A. Bodwing
Hallo Leute, ein neuer Anlauf, um eine PM für LO 3.3 auf die Reihe zu bekommen. Schaut mal bitte drüber, was von den nachfolgenden Fragen relevant ist, bzw. was vielleicht zusätzlich für die erste PM für LO zu beachten wäre. Ich versuche damit das Grundgerüst klar zu bekommen, denn während die

Re: [tdf-discuss] Multilingualism and discussions

2010-10-20 Thread Johannes A. Bodwing
Hi, On 10/20/2010 11:59 AM, Charles Marcus wrote: That is not instructions on how to unsubscribe, that is instructions on how to send a message to get a 'help' response that will include instructions on how to unsubscribe (*and* subscribe, and a bunch of other stuff), and because it is so