Re: [jQuery] jQuery newbies?

2007-03-14 Thread Karl Swedberg
Hey Jörn, I think it's totally cool that someone with your level of expertise, someone whose coding prowess I aspire to, also has the self- confidence to post such a question! Anyway, the distinction between newbie and expert is, in my opinion, irrelevant nearly all of the time. Much more

Re: [jQuery] jQuery newbies?

2007-03-14 Thread Klaus Hartl
Karl Swedberg schrieb: Hey Jörn, I think it's totally cool that someone with your level of expertise, someone whose coding prowess I aspire to, also has the self-confidence to post such a question! Anyway, the distinction between newbie and expert is, in my opinion, irrelevant nearly

[jQuery] jQuery newbies?

2007-03-13 Thread Jörn Zaefferer
Hi folks, the infamous ppk wrote in his blog: I've learnt one other trick for distinguishing newbies and pros: ask them the difference between |this| and |self|. Usually people who just claim to be excellent scripters don't know the answer, while real pros do. So obviously I am not an

Re: [jQuery] jQuery newbies?

2007-03-13 Thread Erik Beeson
self always referers to the the Window object (I think?) this can be set based on the context (like jQuery does with event handler functions) FWIW, I don't find 'self' mentioned in the ECMA spec... --Erik On 3/13/07, Jörn Zaefferer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, the infamous ppk wrote in

Re: [jQuery] jQuery newbies?

2007-03-13 Thread Andy Matthews
http://jszen.blogspot.com/2007/03/mark-of-n00b.html -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jörn Zaefferer Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 4:23 PM To: jQuery Discussion. Subject: [jQuery] jQuery newbies? Hi folks, the infamous ppk wrote in his

Re: [jQuery] jQuery newbies?

2007-03-13 Thread Daniel MacDonald
self refers to the current window in the DOM D Jörn Zaefferer wrote: Hi folks, the infamous ppk wrote in his blog: I've learnt one other trick for distinguishing newbies and pros: ask them the difference between |this| and |self|. Usually people who just claim to be excellent

Re: [jQuery] jQuery newbies?

2007-03-13 Thread Jake McGraw
A quick google and a look at Javascript The Definitive Guide: self is also a property of the global (window) object, one which points back at the window object such that (window.self === window) should be true (it isn't in Internet Explorer, but it is in Gecko-based browsers, Netscape 4.78 and

Re: [jQuery] jQuery newbies?

2007-03-13 Thread Daniel MacDonald
As a nonprofessional, this is too much info for me, but the details are at: http://www.w3.org/TR/Window/#dfn-self-attribute http://www.w3.org/TR/Window/#dfn-self-attribute You won't find it in the ECMA spec because it's part of the DOM D Daniel MacDonald wrote: self refers to the current

Re: [jQuery] jQuery newbies?

2007-03-13 Thread Rey Bango
Self refers to the window object while this refers to a specific object that's being worked on. And yep, I looked it up so I'm a n00b. ;o) Rey Jörn Zaefferer wrote: Hi folks, the infamous ppk wrote in his blog: I've learnt one other trick for distinguishing newbies and pros: ask them

Re: [jQuery] jQuery newbies?

2007-03-13 Thread Chris Domigan
Maybe he's saying that n00bs don't know there IS a difference between this and self...? ___ jQuery mailing list discuss@jquery.com http://jquery.com/discuss/

Re: [jQuery] jQuery newbies?

2007-03-13 Thread Nathan Young -X \(natyoung - Artizen at Cisco\)
.:||:._.:||:._.:||:._.:||:._.:||:._.:||:._.:||:._.:||:._.:||:._.:||:._.:||:. Nathan Young Cisco.com-Interface Development A: ncy1717 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jake McGraw Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 2:45 PM To: jQuery Discussion. Subject: Re: [jQuery] jQuery newbies

Re: [jQuery] jQuery newbies?

2007-03-13 Thread Bruce
True, this means this email, self is referring to me. Bruce P bkdesign - Original Message - From: Chris Domigan To: jQuery Discussion. Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [jQuery] jQuery newbies? Maybe he's saying that n00bs don't know there IS a difference

Re: [jQuery] jQuery newbies?

2007-03-13 Thread Alexandre Plennevaux
maybe he's a buddhist coder that contemplates The Great this but does not believe in the self ?? _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Domigan Sent: mardi 13 mars 2007 22:56 To: jQuery Discussion. Subject: Re: [jQuery] jQuery newbies? Maybe he's saying

Re: [jQuery] jQuery newbies?

2007-03-13 Thread Jörn Zaefferer
Nathan Young -X (natyoung - Artizen at Cisco) schrieb: I think knowing what this is and being able to use it appropriately is pretty critical. I think never having given a flying *** about self and having no idea what it is, is totally natural and not indicative of anything. Thanks all