Re: [IxDA Discuss] Terminology: import-export or upload-download

2008-03-19 Thread Calvin Park 박상빈
IMO, unless the direction of transfer is unmistakably clear, I'd use the word transfer instead of up/download or im/export. The latter two assumes directional references too much. On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 17:17:06, Leandro Alves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I agree with Elizabeth, but I think that

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Terminology: import-export or upload-download

2008-03-19 Thread Jack Moffett
On Mar 19, 2008, at 12:06 PM, Calvin Park 박상빈 wrote: IMO, unless the direction of transfer is unmistakably clear, I'd use the word transfer instead of up/download or im/export. The latter two assumes directional references too much. That's a bad thing? If my web app allows you to export a

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Terminology: import-export or upload-download

2008-03-19 Thread Elizabeth Buie
Leandro Alves writes: Well, I agree with Elizabeth, but I think that download/upload is best used when relative to storing data. Well, I didn't say anything that disagreed with that. :-) My main point was that it's not a matter of choosing between import/export and upload/download, because

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Terminology: import-export or upload-download

2008-03-19 Thread Katie Albers
On the whole I agree with Calvin, here...but what's wrong with using move? It's simple and clear as long as you specify the to and from. In fact, I think it's good discipline to remind ourselves that no matter what we use, it is highly probable that our users do not have the same knowledge

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Terminology: import-export or upload-download

2008-03-19 Thread Elizabeth Buie
Katie Albers writes: On the whole I agree with Calvin, here...but what's wrong with using move? Because upload and download, import and export, usually copy the item, rather than moving it. Elizabeth Welcome to the Interaction

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Terminology: import-export or upload-download

2008-03-19 Thread Ari Feldman
i disagree. they typically mean 'transporting' an item - i.e. data transport or data exchange. this is not the same as a file system operation such as copy (which duplicates an file) and move (which relocates a file). On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Elizabeth Buie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Terminology: import-export or upload-download

2008-03-19 Thread Elizabeth Buie
If I upload a file to my web site or a photo sharing site, it still exists on my computer.  If I download music to my iPod, it still exists on my computer.  If I download a software upgrade from Apple or Adobe, it is still on Apple's site or Adobe's site to be downloaded by others. If I export

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Terminology: import-export or upload-download

2008-03-19 Thread Ari Feldman
i misread what you wrote. thus, i was incorrect. On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Elizabeth Buie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I upload a file to my web site or a photo sharing site, it still exists on my computer. If I download music to my iPod, it still exists on my computer. If I download

[IxDA Discuss] Terminology: import-export or upload-download

2008-03-18 Thread Mona Singh
Has anyone done any user studies on the use of terminology like import-export or upload-download. Is one of the options more natural for users? Thanks, Mona Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Terminology: import-export or upload-download

2008-03-18 Thread Elizabeth Buie
Mona Singh writes: Has anyone done any user studies on the use of terminology like import-export or upload-download. Is one of the options more natural for users? As I have always used them they mean different things, so both are appropriate in their contexts. Upload/Download refers to

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Terminology: import-export or upload-download

2008-03-18 Thread Ari Feldman
if this were 20 yrs ago when computing was still voodoo for a great many (c. 8% penetration in the home), i'd say go for it but terms like upload/download and import/export are more or less part of modern vernacular - for ex: upload and download are now found in many dictionaries. because of

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Terminology: import-export or upload-download

2008-03-18 Thread Shaun Bergmann
Personally, my own worst experience using a product was a touch panel design platform. Once you had created the interface on your PC or Laptop, connected to the remote touchpanel, the system would prompt you with: Download to Device? yes / no If, however, you wanted to grab the existing

Re: [IxDA Discuss] Terminology: import-export or upload-download

2008-03-18 Thread Leandro Alves
Well, I agree with Elizabeth, but I think that download/upload is best used when relative to storing data. For example, when you send a vcard file to a online address book service, you're uploading a file, but the best term (for me, at least) is importing a contact. But, I think a user study to